Sick in the head (Pain acknowledged and denied, in the NFL, NHL and in general)

[FirstTimer]

Other fun facts.

Fighting in Hockey is down by a good amount. With 0.43 fights per game avg right now which is about 200 fights total less then just 2 years ago I think we're almost back to where we were when the lockout was over.

And is anyone saying that's a bad thing? That there should be more? How important can it be if it goes down that's a good thing?

Keep on with this retarded line of bullshit.

 

[wingsfan77]

Concussions are results of trauma to the brain. Hockey allowing fighting, something outside the action of the actual game, that revolves around people hitting eachother in the head, while at the same time trying to be serious about wanting to try and prevent brain trauma injuries is laughable.

How many concussions this year have been due to fighting? Zero, almost all of them come from hits or accidental collisions.

 

[killgod]

It serves such a purpose that the Olympics banned it and in the NHL playoffs it has almost become the dodo.

:whut:

Keep on with the stupid bullshit.

I understand the sport perfectly fine..Which is why I understand fighting is retarded.

What does the Olympics have to do with the NHL? Is the Olympics the standard for how hockey should be played? According to whom?

The IOC chooses to be more strict and safe in the spirit of amateur competition as we all know no fighting isn't the only rule difference when it comes to international hockey.

 

[leaffan]

How many concussions this year have been due to fighting? Zero, almost all of them come from hits or accidental collisions.

There's been 1. I think the guy who fought asham after his little celebration got one.

Outside of that the only ones I can really recall from last year were Orr's and Ivanis from calgary.

 

[FirstTimer]

What does the Olympics have to do with the NHL? Is the Olympics the standard for how hockey should be played? According to whom?

Way to avoid the fact that in the NHL playoffs fighting goes down drastically..to the point of practically nothing. On the sports highest levels or in it's biggest games fighting is either illegal or even when it's legal it becomes a ghost.

But yeah it's really important!


Keep on defending this stupid bullshit.

 

[NAHSTE]

Wait ... getting punched in the head has nothing to do with causing concussions?

:jonesy:

 

[FirstTimer]

Wait ... getting punched in the head has nothing to do with causing concussions?

:jonesy:

Yeah. Apparently getting punched while on skates magically can't result in a concussion or acquired brain trauma.

But yeah let's focus on legislating high impact checking that is intrinsically tied to the sport yet still allow the brain trauma that serves virtually no purpose.

 

[leaffan]

Way to avoid the fact that in the NHL playoffs fighting goes down drastically..to the point of practically nothing. On the sports highest levels or in it's biggest games fighting is either illegal or even when it's legal it becomes a ghost.

But yeah it's really important!


Keep on defending this stupid bullshit.

No it doesn't. :facepalm:

 

[NAHSTE]

Yeah. Apparently getting punched while on skates magically can't result in a concussion or acquired brain trauma.

But yeah let's focus on legislating high impact checking that is intrinsically tied to the sport yet still allow the brain trauma that serves virtually no purpose.

Yeah it'd be like if little league baseball banned throwing curve balls to stop kids from damaging their arms but still allowed them to lift weights in the dugout.

 

[FirstTimer]

No it doesn't. :facepalm:

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/sports/hockey/18enforcers.html

Yes it does.

Learn your sport bitch.

No one complains when the fighting stops.
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Philadelphia’s Daniel Carcillo, checking Anders Eriksson, has learned to control his emotions.


Just as hockey fans saw February’s Olympic tournament as unsurpassed for quality and as theater despite the absence of fighting — or perhaps, in part, because of it — so too do they look forward to the drama of the playoffs.

And every spring, it is the same: fighting virtually disappears from N.H.L. rinks. Through the first 14 games of this year’s playoffs, four major fighting penalties were assessed.

“I go back to when we had such intense rivalries, like Rangers-Islanders, Montreal-Quebec, Philadelphia versus pretty much everyone,” said Kerry Fraser, who retired last Sunday after refereeing more regular-season and playoff games than anyone else in league history, more than 2,000 dating to 1973.

They battled and beat each other during the regular season to establish dominance, Fraser continued: “But once the playoffs began, the smart coaches were the ones who kept their players emotionally in check. They’d be the successful ones, even in series where the teams had a historical hatred for each other.”

Since the 1990s, the postseason has traditionally featured about one-fifth of the fighting of the regular season, as measured by the number of fighting majors issued per game. Yet many hockey fans say that playoff hockey is far more intense and entertaining — even the substantial number who say they see fighting as intrinsic to the game.

“Fighting is definitely part of the entertainment during an 82-game schedule, and let’s face it, we are in the entertainment business,” said Ken Daneyko, who had 117 regular-season fights and 6 postseason fights in his 19-season career as a Devils defenseman.

“But once the playoffs start, you’ve really got to bite your tongue if you get a whack,” Daneyko said. “Believe me, it was hard, but you take that hit, and maybe bide your time until next year. One penalty, one mistake, could cost you a playoff game.”

Since 1994, when the N.H.L. adopted the conference-based playoff system it uses today, the number of regular-season fighting majors has averaged 1 to 1.5 a game. In the playoffs during that period, it has been 0.1 to 0.4 per game.

 

[Chrispy]

The Canadian rage in this thread will be glorious.

FT better not be trolling us :shifty:

Just for fun post this over in the NHL area and watch the idiots come out and defend fighting as "vital to the game".

lulz.

:shifty:

 

:megatroll:

 

[killgod]

Way to avoid the fact that in the NHL playoffs fighting goes down drastically..to the point of practically nothing. On the sports highest levels or in it's biggest games fighting is either illegal or even when it's legal it becomes a ghost.

But yeah it's really important!


Keep on defending this stupid bullshit.

More than half the series contained a fight. 4th lines don't play in the playoffs. Series have changed on fights.


This guy with his insults with every comment just showing he can't argue for shit. You've never played the sport, your head is up your ass, but keep going on about our stupid bullshit :troll:


Lets ban fighting because someone who's never played hockey says it has nothing to do with it even though concussions and head trauma are a much bigger issue with boardplay, 2 line passing and elbowing.

Fighting, is an agreed upon event, where 2 players CHOOSE to engage in a fight in order to generate a buzz for their own team (and if you've played or even watched the game, and you haven't, you will know it does take effect). These players rarely get concussed and almost always respectfully engage/disengage with their opponent.

Feel free to insult me over this one, despite never stepping on a sheet of ice in your life. Where as I grew up in a hockey family, in a hockey mad country, at a decent level. This is like me questioning things about high school football, where in my country is pathetic and I simply wouldn't know or understand....but I don't have the ego to not be able to admit this.

The root issue in hockey are illegal blindside hits, as the majority of concussions are coming from there. If you study when they happen, it's quite often when the player doesn't see the impact coming, much like hits on a defenseless target in the NFL...as they often don't see it coming. Often when a head injury occurs in a fight, it stems from a fall hitting their head on the ice or boards...again, not seeing it coming.

Considering the amount of bar fights that happen on a daily basis in this world, you'd think concussions would be a fucking epidemic no?

 

[killgod]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/04/18/sports/hockey/18enforcers.html

Yes it does.

Learn your sport bitch.

How does this justify anything?

4th line players who get 2 shifts a playoff game don't want to get caught in a penalty situation that can cost their team? The injection of bitchmade players like the Europeans and Sean Avery who fake dropping gloves or fake injury can easily put a "tough guy" in the box because it's statistically proven referees will put known players away more easily.

It isn't about not fighting as it is not making a mistake.

 

[leaffan]

:facepalm: googled hard for that one didn't you.

K he doesn't understand the sport haha.

Whats hilarious is that article (which has been ripped to shreds before btw) has his numbers totally wrong and took refernces from Ken Daneyko.

Should stick to writing about ND on vsn's front page I think.

 

[FirstTimer]

More than half the series contained a fight

:jonesy:

Yeah because me never having played hockey prevents me from seeing the studies that fighting in every other aspect of sports has on the brain.

Tremendous viewpoint you fucking faggot.

Where as I grew up in a hockey family, in a hockey mad country, at a decent level.

So you were surrounded by meatheaded bafoons?

Good for you.

This is like me questioning things about high school football, where in my country is pathetic and I simply wouldn't know or understand....but I don't have the ego to not be able to admit this.

Except I would never cared if you didn't play....because I'm not a moron.

Again it's not just about acute concussions. Go google CTE...

\Digest the information..and get back to me.

 

[leaffan]

How does this justify anything?

4th line players who get 2 shifts a playoff game don't want to get caught in a penalty situation that can cost their team? The injection of bitchmade players like the Europeans and Sean Avery who fake dropping gloves or fake injury can easily put a "tough guy" in the box because it's statistically proven referees will put known players away more easily.

It isn't about not fighting as it is not making a mistake.

I'm arguing that the number of fights during the regular season doesn't drop during the playoffs though which the article he posted goes against me. When the article posted has flat out wrong numbers though you can't really take it into consideration.

 

[FirstTimer]

:facepalm: googled hard for that one didn't you.

Yeah, due to me not having CTE from hockey fights I can operate cars and heavy machinery. As well as a laptop.

Whats hilarious is that article (which has been ripped to shreds before btw)

Classic:

Ask for proof.

Well...NOT THAT PROOF!

Should stick to writing about ND on vsn's front page I think.

Should stick to trying to argue that repeated blows to the head outside the action of the game are ok and intrinsic to hockey I think.

 

[leaffan]

lol go google CTE.

Not that TSN, sportsnet, cbc ect ect. wasn't doing whole hour specials on it when the Boogard information came out.

 

[killgod]

:facepalm: googled hard for that one didn't you.

K he doesn't understand the sport haha.

Whats hilarious is that article (which has been ripped to shreds before btw) has his numbers totally wrong and took refernces from Ken Daneyko.

Should stick to writing about ND on vsn's front page I think.

It's just pointless to try and speak to this typical VSN moron.

Clearly hasn't played the sport, uses GIF's to try and justify his point and ignores post over spelling mistakes.

Every sentence is "you fucking faggot" which shows it's just trolling, I mean if my life was this boring I'd stick around and continue. Apparently arguments are invalid because of spelling errors but schoolyard repeated insults make him to be the hero?

LOL, oh vsn.

 

[FirstTimer]

http://blogs.thescore.com/nhl/2010/...s-and-the-shrinking-significance-of-fighting/

yeah more!