[PS3] Sony acquires developer Sucker Punch

[Twigg4075]

yeah i read what he said. it was about as dumb a comment i have read on vsn

name one PS3 exclusive that is no longer an exclusive that has been dumb down or even been affected by space limitation

i dont understand why he just randomly spew out some garbage. Even worse is you following along with it like its some factual info

Sony doesn't really lose exclusives like MS has been. But just look at regular multiplatform games. NCAA is the most recent one. The audio is horribly muted in that game. Why? Because it's compressed. Why is it compressed? Because audio takes a shit ton of space and it wouldn't fit on a paltry DVD. And of course EA is fucking lazy so I'm sure the 360 version was the lead and they just ported it to PS3.

oh...i got you now....so your referring to games that were PC exclusive and moved over to the PS3

Huh? You lost me.

Edit: LOL. I made this post before reading the last page of posts and realized that Knubb basically said the same thing I did.

 

[KNUBB]

Not surprised but I do want to add a :fuckyeah:

just out of curiosity...why is this a fuck yeah?

It's a fuck yeah cuz now there is no way for some good games to get dumbed down due to space limitations. It is something that is happening more and more with multiplatform games.

I guess your saying that Mass Effect has now been dumbed down since its no longer a 360 exclusive

yeah i read what he said. it was about as dumb a comment i have read on vsn

name one PS3 exclusive that is no longer an exclusive that has been dumb down or even been affected by space limitation

i dont understand why he just randomly spew out some garbage. Even worse is you following along with it like its some factual info

oh...i got you now....so your referring to games that were PC exclusive and moved over to the PS3

FFXIII

The game is completely different from what was originally planned due to space limitations. Even on however many discs it ended up on XBOX it still was a farcry from what it was originally gonna be. Now back to your cave old man. Don't be coming up in here with that bullshit dude. 2nd time in a few months you come up in threads starting shit with me.

whats a matter knubb? cant have a legit discussion with someone smarter than you? who is starting shit with you? what cause im not kissing your fag ass like twigg? i dont give a fuck if your a 1 arm cock smoker or not. im gonna call your dumb ass out for making retarded comments.

FFXIII...is that it? are you sure you dont want to post another title before i rip you to shreds so you can go cry to the ban button...which oh btw i will get reversed before you can say cave old man

Point out how I started with the name calling sir.

The FF Series has been exclusive to Playstation since the PS1 days. FFXIII was the 1st time the series ventured to a different system since the 90's. That game has been out just over a year. and you still haven't made any facts to claim what I'm saying is false. Until you show me facts please stfu: because I am bringing facts to back up my statements.

 

[Twigg4075]

FFXIII

I forgot all about that game.

whats a matter knubb? cant have a legit discussion with someone smarter than you? who is starting shit with you? what cause im not kissing your fag ass like twigg? i dont give a fuck if your a 1 arm cock smoker or not. im gonna call your dumb ass out for making retarded comments.

FFXIII...is that it? are you sure you dont want to post another title before i rip you to shreds so you can go cry to the ban button...which oh btw i will get reversed before you can say cave old man

How exactly am I kissing Knubb's ass?

It's actually hard to tell if you're smarter than even Houston Boy with the way you type.

 

[Twigg4075]

nobody has a vandetta aginst you...u sensitive prick. you are the one coming at me with the insults. dont dish it out if you cant take it.

i asked you why this situation was a fuck yeah...u replied by saying



its a dumb comment....and a false comment. you cant name any PS3 exclusives. your claim is that PS3 exclusives are dumbed down due to space...meaning the 360s lack of space. When in fact, there is not any 1 PS3 title that has ever been changed due to a space issue. I cant even think of 1 PS3 exclusive that is now a multiplatform game.

I asked u to name 1 title because i honestly cant think of 1. you names FF. A game thats been a multiplatform game for years now.

this means the only reason you really made your comment is because it furthers your fanboy mentality if thinking the ps3 is such a superior system. then you have twigg totally piggy back you because he jumps at any chance to show off his ps3 fanboy shit....and its laughable because its totally false.

like i said...it was a dumb comment. even worse is twigg being such a fucking follower....OMG its disgusting

Why don't you actually read what Knubb said then? Most notably the part that you made a point of bolding. He said multiplatform games, not just PS3 exclusives that went multiplatform.

I can name a ton. Rage, Castlevania, NCAA, LA Noire...and these are just recent or games.

 

[Maynard]

Point out how I started with the name calling sir.

The FF Series has been exclusive to Playstation since the PS1 days. FFXIII was the 1st time the series ventured to a different system since the 90's. That game has been out just over a year. and you still haven't made any facts to claim what I'm saying is false. Until you show me facts please stfu: because I am bringing facts to back up my statements.

lmao. FF XI was released on 360 in 2006. the next was in 2009...not to mention all the previously released PC versions for windows.

got anything else to back up your facts? can u name another exclusive? because you said that more and more games are being dumbed down due to space limitations.

@twigg. there is nothing wrong with the audio in ncaa. works fine on my TV. although i hear the ps3 version is inferior

 

[Maynard]

Why don't you actually read what Knubb said then? Most notably the part that you made a point of bolding. He said multiplatform games, not just PS3 exclusives that went multiplatform.

I can name a ton. Rage, Castlevania, NCAA, LA Noire...and these are just recent or games.

taking his post out of context doesnt help you win an argument.

he said muli platform in reference to sucker punch remaining exclusive to PS3

try again

not to mention, your opinion of those listed games doesnt mean its a fact.....just because you think that because they are multi means they were dumbed down due to a lack of space, doesnt mean its reality. post a developer comment then we can talk

 

[SethMode]

I don't really understand why anyone would give a shit about exclusivity unless they only owned 1 system. If they DID only own 1 system, I don't understand why they would care about any games being exclusive OTHER than the ones on the system that they don't own, because then they can't play them.

This idea that the stuff going multiplatform is being "dumbed down" is hilarious. Especially when we're talking about one CONSOLE to another. If games have been "dumbed down" in any way, it's when they started going from PC to console, not one console to another.

And if you're going to argue space limitations, can we please use a better example than a lame game like FFXIII?

(Also, I would venture a guess that Sony's superiority in exclusivity is 2 fold 1) they take more risks on new IPs for just one console; and 2) MS doesn't get a lot of the stuff that it churned out for its consoles counted as "exclusive" because it shares them with the PC or is an easier port from the PC -- it's not important to them though because generally sharing with the PC or porting from the PC is win/win for them)

 

[Twigg4075]

@twigg. there is nothing wrong with the audio in ncaa. works fine on my TV. although i hear the ps3 version is inferior

That's funny because even Brnt and Heels have said on the podcast that the audio on the Xbox sucks. It's so quiet.

 

[leaffan]

I don't really understand why anyone would give a shit about exclusivity unless they only owned 1 system. If they DID only own 1 system, I don't understand why they would care about any games being exclusive OTHER than the ones on the system that they don't own, because then they can't play them.

This idea that the stuff going multiplatform is being "dumbed down" is hilarious. Especially when we're talking about one CONSOLE to another. If games have been "dumbed down" in any way, it's when they started going from PC to platform, not one platform to another.
And if you're going to argue space limitations, can we please use a better example than a lame game like FFXIII?

(Also, I would venture a guess that Sony's superiority in exclusivity is 2 fold 1) they take more risks on new IPs for just one console; and 2) MS doesn't get a lot of the stuff that it churned out for its consoles counted as "exclusive" because it shares them with the PC or is an easier port from the PC -- it's not important to them though because generally sharing with the PC or porting from the PC is win/win for them)

Good thing you mentioned it before me since I'm sure I would of been labelled my classic pc fanboy comment.

Its funny seeing knubb argue a final fantasy game for limitation since they've never given a fuck about that in the past and just keep putting more and more discs out. I remember when I found out FF8 had 4 god dam discs after they said they were trying to cut back on the number of discs used (FF7 had 3 I think).

 

[leaffan]

That's funny because even Brnt and Heels have said on the podcast that the audio on the Xbox sucks. It's so quiet.

The audio for ncaa12 on both consoles has been said to have issues this year. This is not just an xbox issue.

 

[leaffan]

And for maynard what these two guys are trying to get at is this.

A game like rage is actually perfect for the example.

Carmack (lead guy at ID) has said that because of the disk limitations the 360 version of the game when it comes out will be graphically not as good as the ps3 and thats due to the compression needed to fit the game onto the 3 dvds he's going to need for the game. The PC ironically will have the same disk issue but because the machine for the most part can be more powerful it won't need the same compression.

 

[Maynard]

Good thing you mentioned it before me since I'm sure I would of been labelled my classic pc fanboy comment.
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i was also gonna make that comment but was saving it for the proper troll moment

And for maynard what these two guys are trying to get at is this.

A game like rage is actually perfect for the example.

Carmack (lead guy at ID) has said that because of the disk limitations the 360 version of the game when it comes out will be graphically not as good as the ps3 and thats due to the compression needed to fit the game onto the 3 dvds he's going to need for the game. The PC ironically will have the same disk issue but because the machine for the most part can be more powerful it won't need the same compression.

very valid point...totally agree. but lets be honest...this is not what twigg and knubb were trying to say. this was nothing more then a thread for them to post there ps3 fanboy shit. which is why i even commented in the 1st place.

personally, i dont care about sucker punch or the exclusives. i own all the consoles so it makes no difference to me

 

[Maynard]

That's funny because even Brnt and Heels have said on the podcast that the audio on the Xbox sucks. It's so quiet.

The audio for ncaa12 on both consoles has been said to have issues this year. This is not just an xbox issue.

it sounds the same as it always does imo. i notice no difference. i will say this, i do find myself having to turn up my TV from 10 (which is where it stay 95% of the time) to 12 when i play. It doesnt make the quality of the sound any better or worse though

 

[Twigg4075]

The audio for ncaa12 on both consoles has been said to have issues this year. This is not just an xbox issue.

I know. It's on both. But Maynard is trying to say that teh Xbox version is fine, which is bullshit. Read my posts. I said BOTH versions have gimped audio. And then I said the reasoning for this is that the audio was compressed to fit on the 360 disc and they just ported it to PS3, which is bullshit and lazy on EA's part.

 

[Twigg4075]

And for maynard what these two guys are trying to get at is this.

A game like rage is actually perfect for the example.

Carmack (lead guy at ID) has said that because of the disk limitations the 360 version of the game when it comes out will be graphically not as good as the ps3 and thats due to the compression needed to fit the game onto the 3 dvds he's going to need for the game. The PC ironically will have the same disk issue but because the machine for the most part can be more powerful it won't need the same compression.

It's going to be on THREE discs now? The last I heard was two.

i was also gonna make that comment but was saving it for the proper troll moment



very valid point...totally agree. but lets be honest...this is not what twigg and knubb were trying to say. this was nothing more then a thread for them to post there ps3 fanboy shit. which is why i even commented in the 1st place.

personally, i dont care about sucker punch or the exclusives. i own all the consoles so it makes no difference to me

That's EXACTLY what I was talking about dickhead. Read my posts again. Reading comprehension FTL for you. I even brought up Rage. Holy fuck you're brain dead.

 

[PP]

i was also gonna make that comment but was saving it for the proper troll moment



very valid point...totally agree. but lets be honest...this is not what twigg and knubb were trying to say. this was nothing more then a thread for them to post there ps3 fanboy shit. which is why i even commented in the 1st place.

personally, i dont care about sucker punch or the exclusives. i own all the consoles so it makes no difference to me

This thread is about Sony and buying an exclusive studio to develop first party games. If PSfanboys are rejoicing good. Get your xbot shit out of this thread.

 

[Twigg4075]

Bottom line.

Knubb made a comment saying that he was glad Sucker Punch is staying with Sony because then we don't have to deal with yet more franchises (ie inFamous and Sly Cooper-although I think those IP's are owned by Sony) being dumbed down to be ported to other consoles, ie the 360. Then Maynard asked to name a PS3 exclusive that turned multiplatform and was "dumbed down". Since Sony doesn't lose exclusives as much as some other companies you'd be hard pressed to find an example. The only game that I can think of is MGS and who knows when that will ever come out. And even so, MGS has shown up on other consoles before, most notably Nintendo consoles.
Then I brought up certain multiplatform games in general. Most notably NCAA (just released) and Rage (soon to be released). NCAA has clear audio issues, significantly different than last years game. I clearly said that BOTH version had the issues because it was pretty obvious EA made the game for 360 and ported it to PS3. But of course Maynard chimes it with his obviously uneducated "The 360 version is fine. I don't know what you're talking about." WRONG.They compressed the audio to fit on a 360 disc and just ported it to PS3, instead of uncompressing it with all the extra space on bluray. Lazy fucking EA but I'm not surprised. But that is a perfect example of dumbing a game down. Then with Rage it has been reported by Jaohn Carmack at iD (and referenced by Leaf) that the 360 version will be inferior (lack of a better term) dure to disc space. The amazing new graphics engine they are touting (iD Tech 5 I believe?) will be toned down, along with audio and a few other things. Plus it will be on multiple discs. I read two, which was a while ago, but Leaf is now saying three.
Knubb also mentioned FF13. I think those games are crap but it sort of supports the argument The 360 version was terrible and on like, what, 5 or 6 discs? But luckily the PS3 version was the lead SKU so it didn't suffer. So technically no dumbing down. I do love how Seth just writes off FF as being "lame" but when I actually explain my reasoning behind my distaste for Capcom and most fighting game sin general I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about and should stay out of the conversation.

More and more companies are making their multiplatform games on PS3 first recently because while it's harder that way it optimizes both versions of the game. EA is obviously still stuck in 2007 and of course cuts corners so you will see dumbed down versions of their games on PS3 which is a shame and exactly what Knubb was referring to. How Maynard can't get that through his thick skull is beyond me.

 

[SethMode]

This thread is about Sony and buying an exclusive studio to develop first party games. If PSfanboys are rejoicing good. Get your xbot shit out of this thread.

People like you suck. Rejoicing over exclusive games is just about the apex of faggotry.

 

[Twigg4075]

People like you suck. Rejoicing over exclusive games is just about the apex of faggotry.

Yeah, but on one hand I still love exclusives. If it wasn't for them there would be no reason to have multiple consoles. I love the fact that I can only Play Uncharted on PS3. I love the fact that I can only play Gears on 360. I love the fact that I can only platy Mario games on Nintendo consoles.

Now I don't have a dog in this fight because I own all the consoles and can buy (and usually do) any game that comes out.

 

[KNUBB]

I'm glad I left this convo last night because I still see no facts coming from these dudes.