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Strikeforce/M-1 Global - Fedor vs. Henderson (7/30)

Flat footed..not circling....sloppy ground...

Its like Fedor is essentially saying LOL @ training or gameplans.

I love Fedor but I dont like dummies. That Gods will stuff has to go....God doest say sit on your ass let your mob friends tell you what to do and waste your gifts.

I wished this was Fedors first loss so it would mean more to Hendos career. When the last 3 guys to face you are all saying "he was my hero it was an honor to beat him" its time to rethink your career path.
 
So the big thing going on is the stoppage, many many fans complaining about it, I like when refs let it go on, but I can't blame Herb to much on this one, Fedor face planted, arms to his side, legs started to go, there is a delay before he rolls over

Compared to Daley/Diaz, Nick recovers much quicker, gets to his knees and is defending with his hands high

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Fedor, now that he is no longer with the corporation needs to go viral saying he has been screwed in each of his last three fights by Dana White and the paid off refs.
 
A letter to Dave M on his board, posted on the UG

Hey, check it out, I'm sorry if I come across as a jag, and Dave, you did print my writings to you before, but with a statement saying that I probably was joking around and continued with your comments added in - which is why I have refrained from commenting for quite some time now, but today, I couldn't take it anymore.

Dave, I respect you and your work more than anyone else, and believe me, I can prove it.

Long story short, Fedor vs Hendo was the biggest and most obvious double-cross in the history of combat sports.

The first round win by Dan Henderson over Fedor Emelianenko was a disgrace, and has cemented my view of Zuffa, Dana White, and the entire contingency and fan base thar supports that operation.

In my younger years I had done quite a bit of streetfighting - for the love of it. Being a short kid (and later, a short man) a felt this need to " be the baddest " or whatever. I think they call it Napoleanic Syndrome, but I digress. As such, I was a part of a group of kids who learned ever martial art as possible and combined them all and practiced as a group and had competitions in what would today be considered a " backyard fed, " but back in the mid 1980's, we were some sort of a problem to the community, because we did what we aimed to do, and get this, each of us had a signed waiver/disclaimer, so no one could be sued. Yes, I thought of all this and had a violent federation going on with a lot of support and had riled the community up. Later, in High School, I had done research papers on violence and was very supportive of it - but like I told the people at CNN and Fox News (when discussing the enormous amount of violence in Chicago) that I want it to be controlled. I do not want kids fighting just for the sake of it, but I do want it controlled, monitored, and resolved efficiently, and as a stepfather in a Northwest Side of Chicago community, I have contributed to breaking up more fights than I had ever dreamed I would have.

My point is that I am a well known " expert " on violence. I have coached quite a few people in submissions and have coached quite a few kids as well, so I know what I'm doing and I know what I'm seeing. Having been in the wrestling business (but never having made it) for 20 years now (my first match was on July 17th of 1991, and I opened that show with the second match being the first ever match for the guys who would go on to train CM Punk, Danny Dominion and Ace Steel), I know the difference between " work " and " shoot. "

The whole deal is this, Fedor was not anywhere near losing that fight. I'm not trying to take away from Henderson, whom I applaude and have been a supporter of, but come on, that fight was simply the modern ( and MMA ) version of the " Montreal Screwjob. " This is a terrible black eye on a sport that has been - in the view of many who used to support and follow UFC - a ruination of the business by Zuffa.

Perhaps Fedor was done, but at the time Herb Dean (the referee) stopped that fight, NO WAY in " heck " was Fedor close to being finished. That fight had some more rounds to go and what happened was robbery pure and simple. Take it from someone who's been hit way harder than that, and made to look way uglier than the bad eye that Fedor suffered - this night was ridiculous. It may signal a Dark Age for MMA, and one which may result in people wondering if the popularity of the sport was a fad.

Stanley Joseph (Stan Pain)
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That's a ridiculous argument by Stewart Joseph.

Fedor got screwed because I've been hit way harder than that? Srsly? lol

It's not a controversial stoppage. M1 will make it so because they have to negotiate, but Fedor was out cold and faceplanted. End of story.
 
Sadly, Fedor is just done.

Maybe he was done before the Werdum fight, I dunno. But the Fedor in the ring the last three times is not the same Fedor we've seen over the past decade. Different guy.

I'd chalk it up to giving less of a fuck, but whatever the excuse...he's just done.

I don't want to watch another Fedor fight. He should go home to his babushka and eat some ice cream and read religious doctrine and call it a career.
 
That's a ridiculous argument by Stewart Joseph.

Fedor got screwed because I've been hit way harder than that? Srsly? lol

It's not a controversial stoppage. M1 will make it so because they have to negotiate, but Fedor was out cold and faceplanted. End of story.

Eh, he wasn't out, IMO.

He was moving his arms, his wrists were just pinned to the ground. He got turned back and around and was heady enough to defend himself.

When you got guys that late in their career, you should know what a person is all about and as a ref, you need to let fights with the vets go on a bit longer until you are absolutely certain that person is out. Fedor was still conscious and able bodied after Big Foot Silva absolutely bashed his face in with a concrete block. You don't call a fight after one punch which put him on his face and an H-Bomb to the back of the head. Sorry, you don't and its common sense that you don't.

Dean called it early...it is, what it is. Don't defend otherwise.

:niggaplease:
 
Eh, he wasn't out, IMO.

He was moving his arms, his wrists were just pinned to the ground. He got turned back and around and was heady enough to defend himself.

When you got guys that late in their career, you should know what a person is all about and as a ref, you need to let fights with the vets go on a bit longer until you are absolutely certain that person is out. Fedor was still conscious and able bodied after Big Foot Silva absolutely bashed his face in with a concrete block. You don't call a fight after one punch which put him on his face and an H-Bomb to the back of the head. Sorry, you don't and its common sense that you don't.

Dean called it early...it is, what it is. Don't defend otherwise.

:niggaplease:

Fedor was never out cold and was always defending himself in the Big Foot fight. It was only stopped because his eye closed.

Here, he was OUT when he was nailed with the uppercut. Dean saw his head drop to the mat and stopped the fight.

A correct stoppage.
 
he was out for a second, than he came back when Hendo hit him with the reboot punch

Not a great call, but a decent to good one, I would have liked it to go on, but I see why it was stopped

you can see when he rolls over he isnt really doing a great defensive move, more of like 'woah, what happened, I'm in a fight'
 
I read where Fedor struggled to his feet/needed help. If that doesn't tell you it was a good stoppage, not sure what does.
 
You all are way too quick to give the ref the benefit of the doubt when a guy gets a little loopy after a punch...these aren't newbs or guys that are just fresh to the business. They are veterans with long track records. You let them go, especially guys like Hendo and Fedor, until they are absolutely, positively done...not just when one is knocked a little loopy after a hit. You let them try and regain composure, you see if they got something left in them. You don't call the fight so quickly, especially with vets. Its called knowing the guys you are ref'ing for. Its lame, and it made for an awful fight.
 
You're crazy.

Fedor was not defending himself while taking shots.

He was out cold when he faceplanted, he flipped over and was just moving his arms around not intelligently defending.

It was a pretty good fight for a 1 rounder.
 
You're crazy.

Fedor was not defending himself while taking shots.

He was out cold when he faceplanted, he flipped over and was just moving his arms around not intelligently defending.

It was a pretty good fight for a 1 rounder.

Empire gon' Empire once again, ya'll.

I feel like the fight was cheapened by the quick stoppage.

I think I've said this in regards to every fight with vets that gets stopped too soon. Its lame and takes away from the fight, no matter how good.
 
You all are way too quick to give the ref the benefit of the doubt when a guy gets a little loopy after a punch...these aren't newbs or guys that are just fresh to the business. They are veterans with long track records. You let them go, especially guys like Hendo and Fedor, until they are absolutely, positively done...not just when one is knocked a little loopy after a hit. You let them try and regain composure, you see if they got something left in them. You don't call the fight so quickly, especially with vets. Its called knowing the guys you are ref'ing for. Its lame, and it made for an awful fight.

The guy was fucking limp and out. Its the refs job to step in and stop the fight at that point to prevent further damage of wailing on a KO'd opponent. Fedor was toast dude, your man-crush is finished.
 
The guy was fucking limp and out. Its the refs job to step in and stop the fight at that point to prevent further damage of wailing on a KO'd opponent. Fedor was toast dude, your man-crush is finished.

I'm well aware Fedor is done, but it still doesn't mean that my point doesn't stand...this is the fight game, man...and its going to shizz because of all the ticky tack stuff. Awful judging and awful stoppages.

Let them fight...I've said it in regards to fights that feature guys I don't even care about.

A guy gets a little loopy from a strike, that doesn't mean its over.

If you think so, fuck you, you like cock.
 
Exactly lol. He wasn't a "little loopy" the man was out and not defending himself.

Open your eyes LL2GWF
 
Quotes from Dean...

http://mmajunkie.com/news/24645/aft...ill-comfortable-with-emelianenko-stoppage.mma

"If I was to do it again – if I see a fighter face down receiving shots, I'm going to step in and stop the fight," Dean today told MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com). "I can't predict how long he's going to be unconscious for."

"The fight is over when he's unconscious," Dean said. "Because he comes back swiftly after I've already stepped in and stopped the fight, I can't restart the fight. Dan's still throwing punches, but once I've touched Dan, I've stopped the fight."

"I stepped in to support him once he stood up because his balance was still not totally there," he said. "I believe his motor control was still questionable."

"Once I see an unconscious fighter receiving blows while unconscious, that's my job to prevent him from receiving more blows, and that's what I'm going to do," he said.
 
Dude wasnt "a little loopy" tho, his body was fucking limp.

He looked like he just got hit with an H-Bomb, but wasn't out.as soon as his mug in the ground, his hands were moving, he was just posted up on his wrists.

Subsequent punches were going to the back of his head...

Just don't see the need for a stoppage at the time.
 
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