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Strikeforce/M-1 Global on CBS: Fedor vs Rogers 11/7/2009

Man, I can't even go on some of the MMA forums after a fight like this. All the stupid shit that people post just makes my brain hurt. I don't even bother with Sherdog anymore and even The UG has its share of "Fedor has been exposed as average" or "Rogers wins that fight 9 times out of 10" crap.

I'm probably preaching to the choir here, but Fedor's mystique isn't really that he's flawless. That he's the perfect fighter and has no weaknesses. He isn't. He has flaws, weaknesses, and there are ways to beat him. Yet it never happens. In a sport where anything can happen, where everyone has an off night or gets caught, it just doesn't happen with Fedor. People see "unstoppable" as meaning he cannot be hurt at all ever and that's obviously untrue... Unstoppable means you cannot finish him and he will find a way to win.

I've said it before, but I think the best MMA talk on the interwebz is right here, with this core group of guys.

Good, solid, arguments/debates, & alot of varying perspectives. Plus guys who really know their shit. We also successfully flame the trolls away most of the time.

I come here when I want solid MMA talk.
 
This is all true and well put, but keep in mind that a lot of people don't sound like this when they're talking about how good Fedor is. Instead the typical response is much the opposite, people constantly claim that he's unstoppable, unbeatable, and not human, which IMO is equally as bad as the people who call Fedor avg. He's definitely not avg, but he's definitely not unbeatable either.

I do agree that both the lovers and haters are guilty of not really being clear on things, but that seems to be symptomatic of Internet forums in general. The for/against divide when it comes to Fedor just seems sharper than other top level fighters - Anderson Silva, GSP, Machida, Randy Couture, Rasahad Evans, or even Brock Lesnar.

And for those asking about The UG, it has quite a few pro fighters who go on there. Joe Rogan even shows up there every so often. Interesting place. But tons of trolls.
 
I've said it before, but I think the best MMA talk on the interwebz is right here, with this core group of guys.

Good, solid, arguments/debates, & alot of varying perspectives. Plus guys who really know their shit. We also successfully flame the trolls away most of the time.

I come here when I want solid MMA talk.

^^ this, I've become a big MMA fan since watching UFC100, then just reading from you guys on here...good stuff...

that's the 2nd time i saw Mousasi...I like him a lot.
 
You're talking Mousasi?

It was a fine stoppage. Sokoudjou was doing nothing but covering up and eating consecutive punches.

That's the knock on Sokoudjou,he wilts in situations like that.



Love Fedor's flying punches. The picture of him vs. Nog with the flying punch is EPIC.

Yea, it wasn't bad but I think there was some room to let it continue a bit longer to see if Soko could have changed anything. Even tho he probably wouldn't have. I guess I'd just like to see some clearer guidelines for stopping the fight, because we have situations like this where it gets stopped kinda quickly, then other times (Kimbo vs Thompson for example) where someone takes a bunch of hits and the fight doesn't get called.
 
I've said it before, but I think the best MMA talk on the interwebz is right here, with this core group of guys.

Good, solid, arguments/debates, & alot of varying perspectives. Plus guys who really know their shit. We also successfully flame the trolls away most of the time.

I come here when I want solid MMA talk.

Same. Its nice knowing that most of the posters are fairly knowledgeable and educated on the topic, and those who aren't tend to be up front about it. That might annoy me more than anything else. I remember awhile back on one forum (non-MMA) where a poster made a huge argument (mostly baseless) about why Lesnar was far better than Fedor... then admitted he had barely ever watched Fedor fight beyond a couple highlight reels...
 
Any rumors to the possible HWs he's referring to?

Is this Coutures last fight on his UFC contract coming up?

idk if its his last fight but im pretty sure whatever contract he signed when he came back made sure he would be with the UFC until he was done. he is the ageless wonder but the man is creeping up on 50...one last hurrah against fedor would be quite epic though...
 
idk if its his last fight but im pretty sure whatever contract he signed when he came back made sure he would be with the UFC until he was done. he is the ageless wonder but the man is creeping up on 50...one last hurrah against fedor would be quite epic though...

I think Fedor would beat Randy with minimal effort. I would fear for Randy's safety, I dont want to see that fight.
 
I've said it before, but I think the best MMA talk on the interwebz is right here, with this core group of guys.

Good, solid, arguments/debates, & alot of varying perspectives. Plus guys who really know their shit. We also successfully flame the trolls away most of the time.

I come here when I want solid MMA talk.

this little group is cool, but overall not enough posts for my liking, sometimes I feel like I'm talking to myself which isnt a bad thing, lol, but gets a little boring in between events

bigpapa and CB dont post like they used to either
 
look at Fedor not panic underneath the big man, still looking for an arm and even getting the underhook on th leg, the cage saved Rogers from the sub

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Fedors entrance, starts at 1:40 mark

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iNPaYM2wW_4&feature=player_embedded"]YouTube- Fedor Emelianenko vs Brett Rogers.THE ENTRANCE[/ame]
 
Any rumors to the possible HWs he's referring to?

Is this Coutures last fight on his UFC contract coming up?

Couture signed a six-fight deal or something to that extent so he's nowhere near done with them.

One of the heavyweights may be Bobby Lashley. No idea on any other potential names.
 
this little group is cool, but overall not enough posts for my liking, sometimes I feel like I'm talking to myself which isnt a bad thing, lol, but gets a little boring in between events

bigpapa and CB dont post like they used to either

Sure, throw the blame on us Canadians.
 

Good find. Fedor needs to go back to his Pride music, no idea what it was about but it was a sweet entrance theme.

Couture signed a six-fight deal or something to that extent so he's nowhere near done with them.

One of the heavyweights may be Bobby Lashley. No idea on any other potential names.

That sux. Not that I would expect Randy to beat Fedor, but that fight would turn him into a house hold name and would have been a fun matchup to watch.

Gus Johnson needs to go. I know I say this after every Strikeforce event but fuck the guy is terrible. Fedor wanted to say something and Gus denied him! Fedor, the guy who rarely says more than a few words...and Gus wouldn't give him the microphone. What a fucking idiot. Not to mention bringing up a rematch. Are you fucking serious?


Time constraints probably.
 
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This was Fedors nose before the fight, the story is Aleks busted him open, so Rogers just reopened it, still a nice touch having Fedor bleed

dh8snq.jpg
 
Fedor isnt unbeatable, but he's as close as we've seen in recent memory. The only two ways I see of beating him are a.) a very technical striker with a reach advantage who can stand in the pocket and throw straight punches down the middle while avoiding Fedor's power hooks (and not throw flying knees) or b.) a big, strong, imposing wrestler that can put Fedor on his back and keep him there. Arlovski succeeded at first with option a, but made a mistake and his glass jaw + Fedor's explosiveness ended his night. Randleman and Coleman are the two best wrestlers Fedor has faced and, while both lost (Coleman twice), they both had Fedor in difficult situations. I think someone like Borkc could give Fedor trouble. I'm not saying Brock is better than Fedor, I'm not saying Brock would beat Fedor, but I think he'd give him some trouble. Brock has very good takedowns and very, very good ground control. I think, if he fights like he did against Mir the second time and makes sure he doesnt leave any openings for a submission, he could grind out a decision win against Fedor. That being said, if he fails to get Fedor to the ground, Fedor could easily put him to sleep. Or, even if he does get him down, if Brock gets careless or makes even a slight mistake on the ground, Fedor can sub him.
 
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