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The 2011 Tim Tebow Tracking Thread

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John Fox is such a prick.. setting Tebow up to have that 95 yard drive for the win.

I don't care what you guys say. This offence/offense was set up to make Tebow look bad so can they justify a QB change next year. Tebow fucked it up by actually winning games.

Fox is constantly bad-mouthing Tebow (look at his comments to Jake Delhomme this week) and Elway is absolutely convinced Tebow isn't the answer.

They expected this option offence/offense to fail ... and judging by passing stats it may have, but Tebow is winning. Something I think has taken Elway/Fox by surprise.
 
I don't care what you guys say. This offence/offense was set up to make Tebow look bad so can they justify a QB change next year. Tebow fucked it up by actually winning games.

Fox is constantly bad-mouthing Tebow (look at his comments to Jake Delhomme this week) and Elway is absolutely convinced Tebow isn't the answer.

They expected this option offence/offense to fail ... and judging by passing stats it may have, but Tebow is winning. Something I think has taken Elway/Fox by surprise.

This doesn't make sense at all. They changed offenses right after Tim Tebow's worst NFL game of his career. Why would they change offenses when Tebow was playing like shit and getting blown out if they wanted to embarrass him.

If they want to embarrass Tebow, they should be asking him to throw forty times a game, not building an offense to fit his strengths.
 
This doesn't make sense at all. They changed offenses right after Tim Tebow's worst NFL game of his career. Why would they change offenses when Tebow was playing like shit and getting blown out if they wanted to embarrass him.

If they want to embarrass Tebow, they should be asking him to throw forty times a game, not building an offense to fit his strengths.

Don't bother.

Go back and read the last ten pages or so, dave has finally fallen off the deep end.
 
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I don't care what you guys say. This offence/offense was set up to make Tebow look bad so can they justify a QB change next year. Tebow fucked it up by actually winning games.

Fox is constantly bad-mouthing Tebow (look at his comments to Jake Delhomme this week) and Elway is absolutely convinced Tebow isn't the answer.

They expected this option offence/offense to fail ... and judging by passing stats it may have, but Tebow is winning. Something I think has taken Elway/Fox by surprise.

Putting him in the system that made him successful in high school/college. John Fox is a horrible guy.
 
I will say this about Tebow...

In an NFL that is as boring as its ever been...he makes me want to watch.

Whether its to see him finally fail (a great heel trait) or its just to see him overcome all of the odds (a great face trait), I want to see him like I wanted to watch Ric Flair back when he was facing The American Dream, Magnum TA, and the Legion of Doom in a War Games match.
 
I will say this about Tebow...

In an NFL that is as boring as its ever been...he makes me want to watch.

Whether its to see him finally fail (a great heel trait) or its just to see him overcome all of the odds (a great face trait), I want to see him like I wanted to watch Ric Flair back when he was facing The American Dream, Magnum TA, and the Legion of Doom in a War Games match.

Yup.

In a super dry league, Tebow is the most exciting thing going. You can't take your eyes off of him.
 
This doesn't make sense at all. They changed offenses right after Tim Tebow's worst NFL game of his career. Why would they change offenses when Tebow was playing like shit and getting blown out if they wanted to embarrass him.

If they want to embarrass Tebow, they should be asking him to throw forty times a game, not building an offense to fit his strengths.

IMO, this offence/offense is so ridiculous, they expected it to fail. I mean, really, 8 passes a game???

But it hasn't failed ... much to their surprise.

IMO, if they had run a spread with Tebow with a lot of passing, it would have succeeded too ... because this guy is a winner, like Doug Flutie.

I'm guessing they thought the option offence/offense would put Tebow in a bigger position to fail ... and, to their surprise, it hasn't.

I'm sticking to my theory W2B(4)TD. The Broncos wanted Tebow to fail and he's fucking their world up by winning. I'm not asking you to agree, it's my theory.
 
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So does John Fox swallow his pride and NOT run "his" offense. Does he adapt to his players and run a spread? That's all I care about.

(Also, I just joined this thread so I haven't caught up yet.)
 
IMO, this offence/offense is so ridiculous, they expected it to fail. I mean, really, 8 passes a game???

But it hasn't failed ... much to their surprise.

IMO, if they had run a spread with Tebow with a lot of passing, it would have succeeded too ... because this guy is a winner, like Doug Flutie.

I'm guessing they thought the option offence/offense would put Tebow in a bigger position to fail ... and, to their surprise, it hasn't.

I'm sticking to my theory W2B(4)TD. The Broncos wanted Tebow to fail and he's fucking their world up by winning. I'm not asking you to agree, it's my theory.

They aren't throwing 8 passes per game, they threw 8 passes in one game.

BECAUSE THEY RAN FOR 244 YARDS, CONTROLLED THE CLOCK, AND DIDNT NEED TO THROW.
 
So does John Fox swallow his pride and NOT run "his" offense. Does he adapt to his players and run a spread? That's all I care about.

(Also, I just joined this thread so I haven't caught up yet.)

This is NOT John Fox's offence/offense. Yes, he likes to run the ball, but this offence is not John Fox's offence.
 
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dave please read this:


Also interesting to note, is that while Denver is running the ball an average of 18 times more per game, they are only throwing the ball 9 less times per game.

This means they are not only running 9 extra plays per game, but they have also replaced 9 passes with 9 runs. This feeds into the theory that this has also helped the defense significantly, running the clock and keeping the shaky D off the field.


Plus I already showed you, with statistical backing, how Tebow is more successful the less he throws.

If they wanted to sabotage the guy, THEY WOULD ASK HIM TO THROW MORE.
 
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This is NOT John Fox's offence/offense. Yes, he likes to run the ball, but this offence is not John Fox's offence.

Fair point.

I guess my terribly thought out point was: Does John Fox call Urban Meyer and ask for his spread offense playbook?
 
LOL, look at this....

Tebow's five games this year, in order from least attempts to most attempts, with the QB rating from each game:

8 attempts, 102.6 rating (KC)
10 attempts, 101.7 rating (SD)
21 attempts, 98.1 rating (OAK)
27 attempts, 91.7 rating (MIA)
39 attempts, 56.8 rating (DET)

The more he throws, THE WORSE HE PERFORMS. So how exactly are the embarrassing him by having him throw less?????????


As the pass attempts go up, the QB rating goes down.

Let this one go dave, you're way off base.
 
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I don't think the spread would work for him in the NFL. He's mobile enough to get around some blitzes but he's gotta have the big guys up front to block for him to give him time to throw or run or whatever option he takes. Spreading out will just put him into the turf. The college playbooks won't protect him enough. NFL blitzes are way too quick.
 
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