The Arcade Random Thoughts Thread

[padman59]

I got the deamonbrant up off him last night :smug: on my level 3 character :lesmug:.......only took like an hour to take down that 1/4th of his lifebard to get it.,..........

Nice. After he killed me with one hit, I said "fuck that". I managed to get my souls back though. I'll come back to him later.

On a positive note, I did cheese my way into killing the Red Dragon. Only took about 70 arrows.

 

[Twigg4075]

I'm reading the August issue of GamePro and yet another indie developer is complaining about MS's contracts and certifications processes.

He's the developer of the upcoming Retro City Rampage, which looks and sounds awesome by the way. He says "The contract negotiation experience was not a good one. It took even more unnecessary time away from finishing the game and improving the overall quality, and this is something MS needs to work on."

I swear, if these douche bags didn't have such a large install base no one would want to work with the.

 

[Twigg4075]

I hate that game developers find it acceptable to release buggy games just because they know they can patch them later. I know it's assumed - and almost always true - that players have online, but it's still a shitty thing to do.

That is a shitty practice and I hate it as well. But "most gamers" actually do not have online access. The last statistics I've sen show that less than 50% of gamers are online.

So basically half of gamers get stuck with a half assed game.

 

[Fox1994]

That is a shitty practice and I hate it as well. But "most gamers" actually do not have online access. The last statistics I've sen show that less than 50% of gamers are online.

So basically half of gamers get stuck with a half assed game.

Well, I generally fall into the category that doesn't have online access, but I assumed that these fucking developers had some sort of basis for this shitty business practice. I still can't figure out why they're trying to dismantle their industry at its peak. :dunno:

 

[SethMode]

Well, I generally fall into the category that doesn't have online access, but I assumed that these fucking developers had some sort of basis for this shitty business practice. I still can't figure out why they're trying to dismantle their industry at its peak. :dunno:

Quit blaming the developers. Blame the publishers if you're going to blame anyone. Deadlines are set and developers have to meet them. Sometimes that means putting out a product that is subpar. There are few developers that have the clout to get away with multiple delays in this economy/gaming environment.

But then again, hard to place too much blame on the publishers because it's their money at stake.

 

[Fox1994]

Quit blaming the developers. Blame the publishers if you're going to blame anyone. Deadlines are set and developers have to meet them. Sometimes that means putting out a product that is subpar. There are few developers that have the clout to get away with multiple delays in this economy/gaming environment.

But then again, hard to place too much blame on the publishers because it's their money at stake.

Still a shitty business practice.

Perhaps the publishers need to be more lenient with their deadlines. I don't mean allowing multiple delays, but rather just agreeing upon a more fair process time to begin with.

It's said that haste makes waste. All they do when they rush games through production is end up giving themselves and their customers more hassle. I would imagine it could punish the development cycle of the next game if they have to keep going back to fix an old one that was supposed to be done already, so the cycle of shitty development continues without end.

Like when there are constant patches to fix things in NCAA like custom playbooks when the game is supposed to be completed a few weeks before release. I think I read reports that Bully: Scholarship Edition had bugs that rendered it unplayable without being patched.

What about the players that buy the game and don't have online? They end up returning the game, which ends up costing everyone involved money.

There's zero excuse for putting out a subpar product. It's one thing when a game is just of poor quality conceptually, but when it's even difficult to play because of bugs and glitches, it just shows a general lack of care.

As far as the publisher's money goes, you would think that they'd want a quality product developed so that people actually line their pockets further instead of just avoiding buying it. That's what I do when I hear a game has quality control problems that make entire features or game modes unusable - avoid purchasing it.

 

[SethMode]

Still a shitty business practice.

Perhaps the publishers need to be more lenient with their deadlines. I don't mean allowing multiple delays, but rather just agreeing upon a more fair process time to begin with.

It's said that haste makes waste. All they do when they rush games through production is end up giving themselves and their customers more hassle. I would imagine it could punish the development cycle of the next game if they have to keep going back to fix an old one that was supposed to be done already, so the cycle of shitty development continues without end.

Like when there are constant patches to fix things in NCAA like custom playbooks when the game is supposed to be completed a few weeks before release. I think I read reports that Bully: Scholarship Edition had bugs that rendered it unplayable without being patched.

What about the players that buy the game and don't have online? They end up returning the game, which ends up costing everyone involved money.

There's zero excuse for putting out a subpar product. It's one thing when a game is just of poor quality conceptually, but when it's even difficult to play because of bugs and glitches, it just shows a general lack of care.

As far as the publisher's money goes, you would think that they'd want a quality product developed so that people actually line their pockets further instead of just avoiding buying it. That's what I do when I hear a game has quality control problems that make entire features or game modes unusable - avoid purchasing it.

I don't know what to tell you man. Your idealistic nature is nice, but idealistic. It's like saying "If all natural food is better for everyone, why wouldn't every supermarket just sell all natural food?" It's a nice idea but not financially feasible in most cases.

Also, it becomes pretty clear that you aren't aware with exactly HOW MUCH money that the publishers sometimes throw at developers to make these games. Let me tell you one small thing: returns due to bugs are never going to cost anyone NEARLY as much money as the actual making of the game will. The fact is, it's a business. If there were infinite amounts of money to pay the hundreds of people on dev teams to work for as long as needed to make the game perfect, then everyone would win. As it stands though, there isn't.

Getting back to the original point, I don't think that anyone, ANYWHERE would argue that it is a "good" business practice to put out a game with bugs, but your analysis is very short-sighted.

 

[Saluki]

Nice. After he killed me with one hit, I said "fuck that". I managed to get my souls back though. I'll come back to him later.

On a positive note, I did cheese my way into killing the Red Dragon. Only took about 70 arrows.

Arrows and Magic >>> than getting your ass kicked when ur live level 1

I made this knight tho for my 2nd character pretty much cuz all the badass looking armor is heavy :shifty:

 

[Big Papi]

Just got me Moon, so far i have made it 10 rounds. Need a good team :-\

 

[JayDizzle]

Just got me Moon, so far i have made it 10 rounds. Need a good team :-\

Activision was smart enough to release the zombie map pack last seeing as a large percentage of MP players would ONLY use that.

Any earlier and you'd find at least 5 or more to play with depending on which system... XBox 360 moreso.

 

[JayDizzle]

Put in 10 minutes on the copy of MOH Frontline that came with the copy of MOH 2010 I got...

I won't use the usual "Holy shit it looked bad, even with the HD uprez" comment because that's to be expected with a game that came out 8 years after MOH 2010 was released.

But I can't see if I'm hitting anything with the turret you have to run to after scurrying across that minefield in the first level.

I'll look into seeing if I can put on crosshairs through the main menu but if I can't I'm going to need to get a set of binoculars out to see those dirty VG Krauts. :shifty:

 

[SethMode]

Why do I have Plants Vs. Zombies on 4 different systems (360, Steam, Android, and PS3)? Because 3 of the 4 were free. A better question would be, why have I beaten Plants Vs. Zombies on 3 systems (360, Steam, Android)? And an even better question would be, WHY AM I ABOUT TO BEAT IT AGAIN ON PS3!?

 

[Twigg4075]

Put in 10 minutes on the copy of MOH Frontline that came with the copy of MOH 2010 I got...

I won't use the usual "Holy shit it looked bad, even with the HD uprez" comment because that's to be expected with a game that came out 8 years after MOH 2010 was released.

But I can't see if I'm hitting anything with the turret you have to run to after scurrying across that minefield in the first level.

I'll look into seeing if I can put on crosshairs through the main menu but if I can't I'm going to need to get a set of binoculars out to see those dirty VG Krauts. :shifty:

Way back when that shit came out I beat it on Normal on PS2. The only really difficult part I remembered back then was near the very end. There was like a barn or something you had to go through and you get ambushed by what seemed like 100 enemies. It was brutal.

But when I replayed it with the new MoH I couldn't even get passed the beginning beach part. I guess the pussification of gaming has hit me hard over the years.

 

[SethMode]

Way back when that shit came out I beat it on Normal on PS2. The only really difficult I remembered back then was near the very end. There was like a barn or something you had to go through and you get ambushed by what seemed like 100 enemies. It was brutal.

But when I replayed it with the new MoH I couldn't even get passed the beginning beach part. I guess the pussification of gaming has hit me hard over the years.

I think that in part too our eyes were trained to spot stuff differently back then. Shit like Doom wasn't hard for me back in the day, but now I'm looking for super detailed bad guys instead of pixelated pockets of brown. After how far graphics have come, I've lost my sixth sense ability of saying "That pixelated area is a bad guy, I know it."

I think this obviously is most true with FPS's.

 

[IamMedellin]

 

[padman59]

Early rumors about Dead Space 3 say that it'll be set on an ice world, and Ellie will be returning.

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/09/2...lace-on-a-frozen-planet-first-details-inside/

 

[Swarley]

Finally finished up another play through of Uncharted 2. That game's story mode blows me away every time. Great fucking ending and one of my favorite final boss fights ever. I think I'm going to start another play through of the first one tonight.

 

[IamMedellin]

Early rumors about Dead Space 3 say that it'll be set on an ice world, and Ellie will be returning.

http://www.siliconera.com/2011/09/2...lace-on-a-frozen-planet-first-details-inside/

That's watsup

 

[padman59]

 

[Twigg4075]

Finally finished up another play through of Uncharted 2. That game's story mode blows me away every time. Great fucking ending and one of my favorite final boss fights ever. I think I'm going to start another play through of the first one tonight.

I actually thought that the final boss was one of the only weak points of that game. It wasn't the worst I've ever played but it sure wasn't very good.