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The Boxing Thread (Sweet Science) - Mayweather vs. Maidana

if Alexander gets by Witter (which is a big if) Alexander Bradley should be a great fight.....

sidenote: i am assuming Bradley can outpoint a very tough Nate Campbell..
 
davie said:
I expected more from Ruslan having beaten Felix Savon (6'5) twice and Valuev (7'0 with 135.5 inch reach), as well as Wlad struggling previously against southpaws. Wlad was too good for him tonight.
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LOL its funny how people are knocking Ruslan, seriously what can he do, he had no chance, I don't think it has anything to do with what he wasn't able to do as much as it is just flat out that you can't get inside someone while taking those straights to the face all night.

David Haye cracks me up, I hope to hell he makes a fight with Wlad and not Vitali, because I want to see Wlad shut his mouth.
 
nflman2033 said:
LOL its funny how people are knocking Ruslan, seriously what can he do, he had no chance, I don't think it has anything to do with what he wasn't able to do as much as it is just flat out that you can't get inside someone while taking those straights to the face all night.

David Haye cracks me up, I hope to hell he makes a fight with Wlad and not Vitali, because I want to see Wlad shut his mouth.
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I was just stating with his previous wins I'd expect him to perform better against a taller fighter. Either better head movement or take a shot to try and get inside. I did make the point that Wlad was too good for him on the night.
 
Ruslan's head movement was average to below average... while Klitsch was simply too good for him on that night i thought he could have made it more of a fight....
 
Couple good fights tonight on Showtime and HBO

On Showtime its Arthur Abraham vs Mahir Oral

On HBO we got Victor Ortiz vs Marcos Maidana
 
I think Cotto has definitely been on the fortunate side of some questionable decisions. I still think Mosley edged him out and now Clottey as well. If it wasn't for that we'd probably be talking about PacMan vs Mosley right now, which I hope still happens anyway.

Also interested in watching Victor Ortiz, Golden Boy has been putting a lot on him as of late, so it's time to see if he lives up to the hype.
 
Just watched the Carl Froch/Taylor fight yesterday, didnt get to see it the first time because udring my move I didnt have HBO or Showtime

I knew Froch won, but Taylor had that fight IMO, he looked pretty sharp early as usual, Taylor was so much quicker, but if that fights goes to a decision Froch would have lost, Froch is a tough bastard, he took some great shots and still had some left in the tank for the later rounds

I felt bad for Taylor, he just couldnt believe it, what an amazing fight, dont see many 12th round KO's like that
 
Abraham just destroyed this guy Oral.... the guy had ZERO, and i mean ZERO power..... i would like to see Arthur against a top flight middle or super middleweight....... Abraham clearly has power, i am curious to see what he would do in a fight though... i saw his fights against Miranda..... but still not convinced...
 
Abraham destoyed that dude, he has some great power, but still has some defensive issues wheh he starts throwing, dropping his hands, of balanace, etc...I think a higher level fighter would be able to out point him, just like the commentators said, but it is easier said than done

Pavlik or Froch would be a good fight against Abraham

Man, Ortiz looked good, but seems like he just doesnt have the mindset to be a champ, I felt bad for him after, you just dont say stuff like that, he just couldnt handle the pressure, the kid is good, but you need that mindset to be an elite fighter and it doesnt look like he has it yet, hopefully he can comeback from this, he has skills but shouldnt be getting into brawls like that

Maidana just kept throwing and wouldnt break, that was the difference, great fight though, never a dull moment
 
He looked like he has the potential to become an elite fighter, but I don't know if he exactly looked good in that fight. He left him self too open, didn't establish a jab, and tried to brawl with him too much. But, he's aware of the mistakes he made so if he can get his mindset right I'm sure he'll rebound from this. & again that's a lot of pressure Golden Boy put on a fighter who's still early in his career.
 
Steel Mamba said:
He looked like he has the potential to become an elite fighter, but I don't know if he exactly looked good in that fight. He left him self too open, didn't establish a jab, and tried to brawl with him too much. But, he's aware of the mistakes he made so if he can get his mindset right I'm sure he'll rebound from this. & again that's a lot of pressure Golden Boy put on a fighter who's still early in his career.
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he looked good with his hand speed, power, his punches were tight, etc..but like I said and you said, the brawling really got to him and he got sloppy

wierd that he quit like that, he showed some good toughness when he would get rocked and kept coming back strong, just to much pressure to soon I guess

I like what I saw though, he has the tools, just not the mental game
 
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lets see, back to the Frosh/Taylor fight, no question Taylor was up on the scorecards, but he didn't deserve to win because he couldn't finish, he is not a finisher.

Abraham looks good however my issue is I am not convinced because I haven't seen him fight anyone special, I don't think he fights well with Pavlik, too bad i don't see that fight happening.

the HBO fight was sure fun to watch, last night between two fights there was like 9 knockdowns..lol.. crazy stuff, the Ortiz/Maidona fight was like watching marquez/vasquez last year, lots of offense two guys just going at it. Not sure either one of them could handle the top guys at 140, probably nothing more than ricky Hatton type fighers(good enough to beat the bums but will fold against top guys)
 
I personally thought Ortiz's defense was terrible... especially after he threw his punches, he left his hands down waaay too long, and its part of the reason he got dropped.... I am quite disappointed in him though... saying he shouldnt be gettin hurt like that, and he wants to be able to talk when he is older? huh... dude your like 25... and really just gettin into your career..... he has a ton of talent, but i dont think his heart is in it....

about Froch/Taylor... great fight, i am personally hoping for a Part II... Taylor had a decision wrapped up, i give him credit for standing in there and fighting regardless..... but he fades like a MJ jumper late in fights... and cant seem to finish quality fighters.....

about Abraham, a move up in weight might expose him.... there are some really quality fighters at 168 as i mentioned in a previous post.... While i am excited to see him move up, i also want to see him fight Pavlik... i think Pavlik's power plus work rate might be a bit much for Abraham.... this guy Oral was hitting him with some clean shots but had zippie power.....
 
Oritz has the tools, defensively he just got loose when he started brawling it seemed, will have to watch it again to really see

His punches were tight, hooks were so compact on the knockdowns, great speed, etc...I think he just got caught up in the moment and started to wing it, it was a real eye opener to him that guys can take power shots and keep coming

he is only 22 and shouldnt be talking like that, that is a huge issue, pretty much what will make or break him

Abrham/Pavlik would be great, I think pavlik takes him out thought, Abraham was getting hit by this guy when he decided to open up, if Pavlik catches him it will get ugly, fight I want to see though
 
AA/Pavlik woul dbe a great fight..... both of them would be tested.... AA speed might give Pavlik a problem, but i think that leaky defense AA is displaying would come back to hurt him, as i have yet to see a 160 lb fighter stand in fornt of Pavlik and trade with him for more than 7 rounds... ( Taylor and Mirnada both wilt in the 6th or 7th respectively)
 
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