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The console war is over

Yeah it's the other way around.

PS3 doesn't stream half the shit I throw at it. And when it does play it, it takes forever to begin playing.

I guess gaming experts with one of the biggest gaming sites on the 'net are completely wrong then.
 
i think the ps3 owns the 360 in streaming. I never have issues with the ps3 and cant watch the same shit on the 360
 
i think the ps3 owns the 360 in streaming. I never have issues with the ps3 and cant watch the same shit on the 360

I'm guessing what PC you use has a lot to do with things? Doesn't Cho run a MacBook which are incompatible with tons of shit?
 
Offtopic sackrides the PS3 streaming capabilities, there are a lot of users that only use their PS3 for that purpose.

I don't personally know though, I haven't tried to stream anything but music.

I thought this commercial for the PS3 slim was funny, Sony making fun of themselves :laugh:

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GL1xTcQwu-8"]YouTube - Commercial: PS3 Does Everything: '$299 Rumor' (US)[/ame]
 
That shit is hilarious!
Macbook and a Windows XP PC - both streaming to the PS3 and 360.
The PS3 streams take FOREVER. Even just a single MP3 takes forever to load on the PS3 via streaming. It's ridiculous.

I'm not going to question you because I don't know jack shit about streaming but I find it odd that you're the only person in this thread that has problmes and now at least two major gaming sites, Offtopic and Giant Bomb, praise the PS3's streaming capabilities.
 
Firefox is a web browser bro and is being used during 90% of my day.
Apples and oranges.

Either way, I might check out TVersity again.

A media server is ALWAYS on. Once your computer turns on the media server is turned on with it. That is point I was making.
 
Macbook and a Windows XP PC - both streaming to the PS3 and 360.
The PS3 streams take FOREVER. Even just a single MP3 takes forever to load on the PS3 via streaming. It's ridiculous.

i have Win XP with WMP 11 and songs instantly play on my ps3. Its a matter of click then sound.

Videos are just as good. No time to get them to play....maybe a few seconds but nothing that is noticeable

i wonder if you have something setup wrong. I am wired to both my 360 and ps3 so idk if that has anything to do with it
 
i have Win XP with WMP 11 and songs instantly play on my ps3. Its a matter of click then sound.

Videos are just as good. No time to get them to play....maybe a few seconds but nothing that is noticeable

i wonder if you have something setup wrong. I am wired to both my 360 and ps3 so idk if that has anything to do with it

All fanboy BS aside, I haven't had problems (with music at least) either.
 
I was listening to the 1Up podcast earlier while I was jogging and they mentioned that MS released a statement recently saying that the price drop of the Elite was not in retaliation of the PS3 drop. They said they had been thinking of the price drop for quite some time and it was merely a coincidence.

I almost fell over laughing.
 
360 will still lead because of clueless consumers going out to buy another 360 due to RROD.

MS=Genius

I know that is a good chunk of the 360's sales. That poll that Game Informer has in theor latest issue, the one that a lot of Xbots scoffed at, said that not only had 54% of the people polled had their 360 break on them but 30%+ (I think it was 36%) had just went out and purchased a new console. So not only does that show how retarded and ignorant some people are but that definitely has to factor into the 360's sales numbers. Hell, Cho proudly professed that if his 360 ever broke he would run right out to the store, buy a new one and then sell the repaired one on eBay once her got it back. I'm pretty sure he did that at least once. I wonder how many people think exactly like him?

But even without that the 360 would still be leading at this point. People buy cheaper systems. They always have and they always will. You will never convince the average consumer that one console is better than the other if the other console is cheaper. But now that they are both the same price things should get interesting.

Of course people will still probably eat up the whack ass 360 Arcade.

Sidenote: I always found it funny that some people say "The 360 sells the most because of the games. It's always about the games." Is it really? Or is it because it came out first and was much cheaper, regardless of what console actually offered you much more. I mean, what does the 360 really have as far as exclusive games? The only ones I can think of that are worth a damn are: Crackdown, Fable 2, Mass Effect, Forza, Gears of War, Halo and maybe Scene It? Plus they have Alan Wake on the way. The PS3 has: Killzone, Heavenly Sword, LBP, MGS4, MotorStorm, Ratchet & Clank, Resistance, inFamous, Warhawk, SOCOM and BUZZ and teh Singstar series. Plus they have MAG, Heavy Rain and a few others on the horizon (not counting The Agent from Rockstar-who knows when that will ever see the light of day). Sure games are a matter of opinion. I for one couldn't care less about RPG's so I couldn't give two shits about Fable and Mass Effect.

I'm sure I've missed a few games here and there but the bottom line is I don't know how anyone can use the "It's the games argument." There are more than enough great games that can only be found on PS3.
 
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You have to think about the masses though with those exclusive.

Crackdown, Fable 2, Mass Effect, Forza, Gears of War and Halo are far more marketable, more mainstream exclusives than Killzone, Heavenly Sword, MGS4 and Motorstorm.

Halo itself is more important to the mainstream than all of those PS3 exclusives.
 
You have to think about the masses though with those exclusive.

Crackdown, Fable 2, Mass Effect, Forza, Gears of War and Halo are far more marketable, more mainstream exclusives than Killzone, Heavenly Sword, MGS4 and Motorstorm.

Halo itself is more important to the mainstream than all of those PS3 exclusives.

That is definitely true. But it also helps when/if Sony and the development companies put any sort of semblance of a marketing campaign behind some of those games. A few ads in gaming magazines don't cut it anymore.
 
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exclusives dont really mean anything to me. I hated halo and fable 2 and didnt even play gears 2. I also didnt touch any of the ps3 exclusives.

the 360 was first and thats the real reason i jumped on it for next gen gaming. Now, years later i have all my friends on there. But aside from that its much more simple to use the 360 for gaming online. Plus the controller feels so much better. Playing around in the dashboard feels like another game. Its very robust and lively. I enjoy playing on the 360 cause its online setup is fantastic and its very simple to use

the ps3 is kind of a pain in the ass. Getting quality voice chat is like pulling teeth. The dashboard is very drab and boring. almost like a depressing rainy day. Anything related to online play or communicating with friends is just not worth dealing with. Sending text messages on there is a pain in the ass too. Offline gaming is all the same. Except the ps3 controller sucks. I hate how the analog sticks are setup.

bottom line for me is the 360 was reasonably priced and was available. PS3 came out a year later and was way over priced for a gaming system. If I was a new buyer today and compared the Elite to the 299 ps3, i am pretty sure i would choose the ps3. Free online gaming and blu ray....cmon, its no contest that the ps3 is a better value now.....

but unfortunately sony is a little late.....they remind me of the game devs who put out new DLC maps 2 months after everyone stopped playing......its like thanks, but we moved on already
 
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360 games no longer have to be HD

http://m.kotaku.com/site?t=y2BX6Y0JSBtZzLu2jq.NZg&sid=kotaku

I never knew that Halo 3 wasn't even 720 native

360 Games No Longer Have To Be In High Definition
By Luke Plunkett , on Wed Sep 2 2009, 31,207 views

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Since the 360 launched in 2005, developers have had to work within a set of guidelines set down by Microsoft. One of those stipulated that games had to be running at a resolution of 1280x720 (720p). Not any more!

Black Rock Studio's (ATV, Split/Second) David Jefferies has, in his regular column on industry site Develop, revealed that Microsoft recently dropped the requirement, meaning games can - if they want/need to - be released in lower, standard definition resolutions.

Of course, some games on the 360 have already been released in sub-HD resolutions. Halo 3, for example, which Jeffereis says was thanks to Bungie, "who got it waived".

Wonder how much this decision has to do with recent findings revealing that less than half of Gears of Wars 2's player base owns a high definition television?
 
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