The Good, the Bad and the... well just the Ugly actually, returns

[steeljake]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=bryant_howard&id=4359839

 

[steeljake]

Steeljake your article wasn't very good but you're dealing (mainly) with trolls, you should understand how trolls work since you also act like one yourself towards certain people here.

Aside from that I love how people always say things like "WHAT IF YOU TRIED DOING THAT AT YOUR JOB!?" whenever athletes do something bad, like the two situations can even be compared.

trolls dont bother me, even ignorant ones like senser and his butt buddy warner.

 

[steeljake]

Speaking of trolls....back under the bridge for you, asswad. I was actually trying to discuss the article...you are just trying to get in a few internet potshots. Weak sauce, as usual.

lol at you trying to say you were 'discussing'... you are seriuosly fucked up. the personal experience i mentioned was in the racial implications i made.

 

[Bear Pand]

lol at you trying to say you were 'discussing'... you are seriuosly fucked up. the personal experience i mentioned was in the racial implications i made.

yeah that's the sad thing, some people call what happened in this thread "discussing" lol

it's like back at MM when we'd just give the best debater award to whichever poster yelled the loudest and multiquoted the most

 

[Senser81]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=bryant_howard&id=4359839

Link must be faulty, or I must not be able to access Page 2 of the column...you know, the part where the author calls Goodall a racist and says Goodall destroyed any goodwill the players union and he had.

 

[Senser81]

yeah that's the sad thing, some people call what happened in this thread "discussing" lol

it's like back at MM when we'd just give the best debator award to whichever poster yelled the loudest and multiquoted the most

Awesome...I hope your dumbass is a staple in this thread, too. Its like back at MM, when everyone hated you.

 

[Senser81]

lol at you trying to say you were 'discussing'... you are seriuosly fucked up. the personal experience i mentioned was in the racial implications i made.

Remember this? Seems like ages ago...

Is this a joke? I don't get it. Why is this drivel in its own subforum?

The article is completely pointless. Unless you have some personal contact that allows you to know the inner-machinations of the NFLPA, the basis of your article is pure fiction.

"What Roger Goodell has done with not allowing Michael Vick to play right away has destroyed any goodwill the players union and he had."

What are you talking about? What is this comment based on?

Anyway, the Vick thing is semantics...should a player have his NFL-issued suspension run concurrent with his jail time, or should they be two separate things, meaning after the jail time is served then the NFL suspension starts?

I can see both sides of the issue.

I think if you allow the suspension to run concurrent with the jail time, then basically what you are saying is you can avoid suspension by being in jail...a clever strategy in Monopoly when you don't want to land on the other guy's hotels, but probably not the most logical way to do things.

But, I wouldn't really care if the NFL reinstates Vick. He's served his debt to society.

 

[ralaw]

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/columns/story?columnist=bryant_howard&id=4359839

Ah, I can see now where you were going with this. It seems you read this article, took some points, added some of you own and posted. I will say though that both your and the ESPN articles would have been better had they stayed on the point that maybe Goodell shouldn't be given the exclusive power to punish players, which I agree with. I think that would have made for a more compelling discussion. All of the race, "false muscle," and "piling on" arguments really divert from what could have been a better read.

 

[ralaw]

yeah that's the sad thing, some people call what happened in this thread "discussing" lol

it's like back at MM when we'd just give the best debater award to whichever poster yelled the loudest and multiquoted the most

As someone who once won that award I have to disagree with you.

 

[Bear Pand]

As someone who once won that award I have to disagree with you.

exception to the rule then

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Go lie to the face of the CEO of your company, and see how that works out.

Vick is lucky to be back in the league, the 6 week "wait and see" period is more than fair, and he should (and by all accounts is) grateful he will be allowed to ever play in the NFL again.

Goodell is asking Vick to keep his nose clean for 6 weeks. Big fucking deal. Not alot to ask for a dishonest convicted felon, who you are graciously allowing back into your multi billion dollar empire.

Goodell could have told Vick to take a hike, go dig ditches. And he would have had every right to do so. Plenty of companies don't employ convicted felons. Perspective.

siednote-Vick has not paid his debt to society. He owes millions of dollars to creditors, and millions of dollars in liquid assets "disappeared" before he went to prison. Huh.

Here is my first post in the thread.

Hardly a troll effort, although anything I posted was soon followed with the inevitable "cum dumpster" and "gay shoe wearing" jokes.

If steeljoke can't handle being challenged, this garbage shouldn't be pinned.

You got thrashed, admit it and move on. Write something more substantial next time. If you try to force a reaction, you'll get one.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I must admit....I did give up. Sometimes is simply better to just walk away. As you and others know he had no basis for the majority of the article; however, instead of just admitting that fact he instead would rather say, "did you read the article", "this is my opinion" or simply ignore what he couldn't respond to. With this thread being stickied I guess I got my hopes up and really thought he had a basis for his writings, but I learned that he didn't and that it really wasn't worth it anymore.

It got to the point where I realized that he wasn't writing the article to have people such as me, you, W2B, etc challenge him and have a real discussion on it, but instead to have people congratulate him on writing it. I'm thinking these "GMP Crew" articles are like congratulating the retarded kid for completing the race, while ignoring the fact that they came in last. I mean, understanding the context there is nothing wrong with congratulating the retarded kid.

TREMENDOUS

 

[Senser81]

NEXT WEEK: Steve McNair shot and killed in preseason...does it count?

RIP

 

[NAHSTE]

NEXT WEEK: Steve McNair shot and killed in preseason...does it count?

RIP

LOLOLOLOLOLOL

 

[steeljake]

Here is my first post in the thread.

Hardly a troll effort, although anything I posted was soon followed with the inevitable "cum dumpster" and "gay shoe wearing" jokes.

If steeljoke can't handle being challenged, this garbage shouldn't be pinned.

You got thrashed, admit it and move on. Write something more substantial next time. If you try to force a reaction, you'll get one.

and i answered it, i was not thrashed, your just a moron who dumps on everything. thats cool by me, i still stand by what i wrote as my opinion.

 

[Senser81]

and i answered it, i was not thrashed, your just a moron who dumps on everything. thats cool by me, i still stand by what i wrote as my opinion.

Yes, you were not thrashed. You backed up your opinions with fact, and you argued in a level-headed manner. No one got the best of you in this thread.

:applause:

 

[FirstTimer]

HA HA HA! There was no debate. You had nothing. Ralaw just gave up.

I eagerly await next week's article of "White NFL Coach in charge of Black NFL Players...racist overtones threaten to destroy league/earth."

You're a joke.

LOL.

I miss having VSN at work so I can see steeljake get shit all over. Wow. W2B, Ralaw, Senser....excellent work.

 

[steeljake]

Yes, you were not thrashed. You backed up your opinions with fact, and you argued in a level-headed manner. No one got the best of you in this thread.

:applause:

it is very sad to me that your level of undertansing is so limited. it is an opinion peice, based on the facts that mike vick was convicted of a crime and partial reinstated by goodell. i stated my opinions, and you jumped on warner's dick to attempt to disagree and try to make yourself look cool by thinking you could thrash me. you failed, he failed. to be honest, if you werent such an over used toliet yourself, i may have respected your opinion, but since you are the idiot i think you are, it really doesnt make a difference to me what you think.

 

[Senser81]

it is very sad to me that your level of undertansing is so limited. it is an opinion peice, based on the facts that mike vick was convicted of a crime and partial reinstated by goodell. i stated my opinions, and you jumped on warner's dick to attempt to disagree and try to make yourself look cool by thinking you could thrash me. you failed, he failed. to be honest, if you werent such an over used toliet yourself, i may have respected your opinion, but since you are the idiot i think you are, it really doesnt make a difference to me what you think.

:applause:

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

it is very sad to me that your level of undertansing is so limited. it is an opinion peice, based on the facts that mike vick was convicted of a crime and partial reinstated by goodell. i stated my opinions, and you jumped on warner's dick to attempt to disagree and try to make yourself look cool by thinking you could thrash me. you failed, he failed. to be honest, if you werent such an over used toliet yourself, i may have respected your opinion, but since you are the idiot i think you are, it really doesnt make a difference to me what you think.

Just stop.

I'm almost starting to feel bad for you.

It got to the point where I realized that he wasn't writing the article to have people such as me, you, W2B, etc challenge him and have a real discussion on it, but instead to have people congratulate him on writing it. I'm thinking these "GMP Crew" articles are like congratulating the retarded kid for completing the race, while ignoring the fact that they came in last. I mean, understanding the context there is nothing wrong with congratulating the retarded kid.

So good it had to be posted again.