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great game between Man U and Fulham.

I just saw the Aston Villa score at the half. Newcastle looked like dook last week....then they rock Villa by 6. LULZ 'R US
 
Needless to say Im not very happy. This was a game where they jumped all over Fulham then allowed Fulham to become more and more involved until it bit them in the ass. Even a 2-1 win, I would have said the same thing. It was a own goal for the second.

Evra - Played decent, do think he was invlolved offensivley enough
Evans - Got raped by Zamora whenever Zamora felt he wanted to do it.
Vidic - Played ok, but was left flat footed for the trying goal. Was no good at all in the air today.
O'Shea - Like Evans, had a bad game, and looked even worse going forward
Park - Was picked soley because they were on the road and Fergie wanted some defense. He was juts meh.
Scholes - Fergie is getting too excited by him playing well and is gonna burn him out by October. Played just ok, kinda lazy on D, and wsant very creative today with killer balls.
Fletch - I dont think he was his usual hacking self today. No yellow, WTF
Valencia - Piss poor, was easily handled all day by Konchesky, althugh O'Shea didnt help him at all here.
Berba and Chich - Both showed signs, but didnt pass enough between them. Berba shot when Chica made runs, Chicha was bullied. But to be fair there was no creativity for them and not many chances came of it. Both died out in the second half.

The subs were all excellent, Owen even found some good pockets. Nani has never missed a PK before today, but Stockdale seems to be a good reason to ket Mark get the hell outta town.

All in all, every season they drop points early. Last year they lost this fixture to Burnley. So a draw against a team who is very good at home. I think something like 40 out 54 pts. Not a good day, but not the end of the world. I guess it was a decent game from a neutral's perspective, just sucked they had it gifted to them and they could hold on. I feel bad for WHU next weekend.

/rant
 
It's obvious you don't get sky sports half time and full time verdicts. If you did you'd have realised that Paul Scholes was everything good that Man Utd did and he's a genius and untouchable and a great tackler and the only reason Hangeland scored the own goal was because Paul Scholes was less than 30 yards from him and he got scared.
 
Lol....is that what they said?

Right.....Also found this funny from GiGi Buffon about Citeh....

"They have signed some great players but I get the feeling they are signing great players for the sake of signing them," Buffon said. "Carlos Tevez, David Silva, Yaya Toure and a few others would make it into any squad in the world.

"But they don't have one defender that would even get near the Juventus, Real Madrid, Barcelona or Manchester United team. Great teams are always built from the back and I am really surprised they are not trying to do that, considering their coach is an Italian."
 
Lol....is that what they said?

Right.....Also found this funny from GiGi Buffon about Citeh....
I love how Buffon will not include Inter or Milan in that list of teams LOL.

Last I checked, both teams finished well into double digits on goal differential last year as opposed to Juventus's -1 (only 5 teams gave up more goals, with 2 of those being relegated!)). And much higher in the standings as well.
 
Needless to say Im not very happy. This was a game where they jumped all over Fulham then allowed Fulham to become more and more involved until it bit them in the ass. Even a 2-1 win, I would have said the same thing. It was a own goal for the second.

Evra - Played decent, do think he was invlolved offensivley enough
Evans - Got raped by Zamora whenever Zamora felt he wanted to do it.
Vidic - Played ok, but was left flat footed for the trying goal. Was no good at all in the air today.
O'Shea - Like Evans, had a bad game, and looked even worse going forward
Park - Was picked soley because they were on the road and Fergie wanted some defense. He was juts meh.
Scholes - Fergie is getting too excited by him playing well and is gonna burn him out by October. Played just ok, kinda lazy on D, and wsant very creative today with killer balls.
Fletch - I dont think he was his usual hacking self today. No yellow, WTF
Valencia - Piss poor, was easily handled all day by Konchesky, althugh O'Shea didnt help him at all here.
Berba and Chich - Both showed signs, but didnt pass enough between them. Berba shot when Chica made runs, Chicha was bullied. But to be fair there was no creativity for them and not many chances came of it. Both died out in the second half.

The subs were all excellent, Owen even found some good pockets. Nani has never missed a PK before today, but Stockdale seems to be a good reason to ket Mark get the hell outta town.

All in all, every season they drop points early. Last year they lost this fixture to Burnley. So a draw against a team who is very good at home. I think something like 40 out 54 pts. Not a good day, but not the end of the world. I guess it was a decent game from a neutral's perspective, just sucked they had it gifted to them and they could hold on. I feel bad for WHU next weekend.

/rant

I'm starting to view ManU as being similar to Liverpool. Guys that in your mind are role-players and part-time performers are now significant parts of the team. Evans and O'Shea were both horrendous, but I think if this was really a strong ManU team, then both of those guys would be substitutes at best. Same for Park and Fletcher...they seem to be constants but aren't really world-class. I don't know what they are trying to accomplish with Valencia.
 
I dont mind Evans because I know Rio is out hurt and will be back. Hell let Smalling play,, cuz Evans was easily handled by Bobby. They went into the offseason knowing they needed a dynamic midfield player, but they never got him. One weak attempt to get Wes from Inter, they said no, and Utd ran. Maybe Anderson coming back will help....

O'shea though needs to be in the team when they are playing teams at the bottom of the table. They have the Brazilian kids are are great young talents, they need to play. And after Fulham, its more than likely that Rafael willl be in the squad against WHU.

Valencia just needs to be consistant. He was nowhere to be found yesterday. But he has good games and showed signs. But again, they are not consistant showings.
 
I dont mind Evans because I know Rio is out hurt and will be back. Hell let Smalling play,, cuz Evans was easily handled by Bobby. They went into the offseason knowing they needed a dynamic midfield player, but they never got him. One weak attempt to get Wes from Inter, they said no, and Utd ran. Maybe Anderson coming back will help....

O'shea though needs to be in the team when they are playing teams at the bottom of the table. They have the Brazilian kids are are great young talents, they need to play. And after Fulham, its more than likely that Rafael willl be in the squad against WHU.

Valencia just needs to be consistant. He was nowhere to be found yesterday. But he has good games and showed signs. But again, they are not consistant showings.
I am surprised they did not play Smalling, especially considering he's familiar with Zamora as he marked him during practice while at Fulham.
 
Very good point, he ran Chicha out there over Macheda, why not out Smalling out there. Bobby Z was a problem for them yesterday.
 
unbeaten streak at home ended on Saturday, NY rung us up 4-1.

Not that it felt so lopsided, I mean Toronto was absolutely dominant with near misses and great saves keeping them off the sheet for the first half. The OG near the end of the half was killer.

We got back in 2-1 early in the 2nd, but a so-so red card and penalty put an end to that hope.

On the bright side, it was one of the most skilled matches I've seen from the MLS yet. With De Ro, Mista, Angel, Henry, Marquez......there was more than your usual amount of skill on the pitch and it clearly showed. Sometimes MLS games can be quite drab and have far too many mistakes but this one was much more crisp and enjoyable to watch despite the drubbing on the scoreboard.

Drops us just out of playoff contention to boot, 10 games to go it's going to be a tough stretch between MLS and CCL.

Hopefully we get a W in Panama tomorrow to put us in great position to get through early on in the stage.
 
^^ Rafa's goal was insane.

If MLS can start getting players/matches/goals like that then their pedigree will start to grow across the globe.
 
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