Tom Brady suspended 4 games over "DeflateGate"

[number_55]

Tom Brady suspended 4 games over "DeflateGate"

I must have made an error in interpreting "suspended indefinitely without pay".

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.co...s-equipment-assistant-suspended-indefinitely/

They might get reinstated. But I would not bet on it nor would I bet that they work for the Patriots again.


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[the Brain]

Neither lost their jobs. They were suspended. Guess who suspended them? No, not the NFL. It was the Patriots. You know, the ones who said the report was completely bogus, half-assed done, incomplete, fraudulent & a sting. So if the Pats were so wrongly done by this investigation, why are the Patriots suspending people based on that investigation?

 

[SethMode]

neither one lost their job.. :eyes2:

Semantics. They were still suspended by their employer, while the other party involved has heard nothing but a rallying cry from the same employer. At least they can fall back on all that sweet equipment manager cash. Could you imagine if a pauper like Tom Brady were suspended indefinitely without pay?

 

[MrBill]

Semantics. They were still suspended by their employer, while the other party involved has heard nothing but a rallying cry from the same employer. At least they can fall back on all that sweet equipment manager cash. Could you imagine if a pauper like Tom Brady were suspended indefinitely without pay?

If I'm Tom Brady, I would be looking to offer those guys a six figure settlement in exchange for their silence in the future on this issue. If these guys feel slighted in the future, they could cause more issues by doing expose interviews with the media.

 

[number_55]

If I'm Tom Brady, I would be looking to offer those guys a six figure settlement in exchange for their silence in the future on this issue. If these guys feel slighted in the future, they could cause more issues by doing expose interviews with the media.

I hope they do.

#exposebrady


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[Soap Dope]

I hope they do.

#exposebrady


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14 points. twice.

 

[webbi]

Neither lost their jobs. They were suspended. Guess who suspended them? No, not the NFL. It was the Patriots. You know, the ones who said the report was completely bogus, half-assed done, incomplete, fraudulent & a sting. So if the Pats were so wrongly done by this investigation, why are the Patriots suspending people based on that investigation?

why would in the NFL suspsend them when they work for the patriots?

 

[webbi]

Semantics. They were still suspended by their employer, while the other party involved has heard nothing but a rallying cry from the same employer. At least they can fall back on all that sweet equipment manager cash. Could you imagine if a pauper like Tom Brady were suspended indefinitely without pay?

Did you read the texts? they dont seem like happy employees.. the reason they were suspended havent been released yet so basing they're guilty off of them being suspended is ridiculous

 

[the Brain]

why would in the NFL suspsend them when they work for the patriots?

THe more pertinent question is why did NE suspend them? If McNally was calling himself the Deflator because he was trying to lose weight as the Pats contend, then why did they take away his job?

 

[SethMode]

THe more pertinent question is why did NE suspend them? If McNally was calling himself the Deflator because he was trying to lose weight as the Pats contend, then why did they take away his job?

Beat me to it. And to Webbi's comment to me of "the reason they were suspended havent been released yet so basing they're guilty off of them being suspended is ridiculous" -- huh? I mean, are you suggesting that it's just really bad timing? Also, do you really trust the Pats at this point? If they came out and said "oh no, this wasn't because of the deflated balls at all!" you'd really believe them?

 

[webbi]

Beat me to it. And to Webbi's comment to me of "the reason they were suspended havent been released yet so basing they're guilty off of them being suspended is ridiculous" -- huh? I mean, are you suggesting that it's just really bad timing? Also, do you really trust the Pats at this point? If they came out and said "oh no, this wasn't because of the deflated balls at all!" you'd really believe them?

its not as much as trusting the pats as not trusting wells or the nfl to do anything correctly.. wells has holes all throughout his report.. you're focusing on the ball boys being suspended and being call the deflator? get out of here w/ that nonsense..

 

[Influence]

its not as much as trusting the pats as not trusting wells or the nfl to do anything correctly.. wells has holes all throughout his report..

Please enlighten me, I am curious.

 

[webbi]

Please enlighten me, I am curious.

read florio yesterday..

 

[webbi]

Please enlighten me, I am curious.

read this too.. http://nesn.com/2015/05/patriots-to...colts-ballboys-with-ball-needles-on-sideline/

 

[Influence]

Or you can try telling me where you think the discrepancies are within the report.

 

[SethMode]

read this too.. http://nesn.com/2015/05/patriots-to...colts-ballboys-with-ball-needles-on-sideline/

All of Florio's shit breaks this crappy work computer (plus you didn't bother to link to it), so I just read this article and...it's shit. The point has been made since page 1 that others doing it is not the same as getting caught. It honestly shocks me that some people consider this a legitimate argument.

 

[number_55]

14 points. twice.

:yep: trick plays that were banned and a flea flicker with a deflated football vs a JV secondary.

Pat yourselves on the backs Pats fans.

:rockclap:

If anything, that's great coaching.

 

[webbi]

All of Florio's shit breaks this crappy work computer (plus you didn't bother to link to it), so I just read this article and...it's shit. The point has been made since page 1 that others doing it is not the same as getting caught. It honestly shocks me that some people consider this a legitimate argument.

but they havent gotten caught doing anything..thats the point. no matter how much hate you have for the pats.. there is NO PROOF of tom brady issuing people to deflate footballs.. ZERO, ZILCH, NADA..

 

[the Brain]

but they havent gotten caught doing anything..thats the point. no matter how much hate you have for the pats.. there is NO PROOF of tom brady issuing people to deflate footballs.. ZERO, ZILCH, NADA..

Here is your problem. If we were to bring this into a court of law, Brady would be found not guilty. Not innocent. But not guilty. No matter how much common sense we all have, it means nothing in a courtroom.

THIS ISN'T A COURTROOM. This is a business. You don't need the smoking gun. All you need is the smell of gunpowder in the room & a dead body to reasonably conclude a crime against your biz has taken place.

The Colts told the officials before the game to look for under-inflated balls. The Pats have been proven to have multiple convos about deflating balls. Brady has lied multiple times about not having any preference. Brady has lied about knowing McNally. Brady suddenly starts calling one of the accused multiple times after the AFC title game and explains it off as trying to get the equipment mgr game ready. And the Pats ridiculous defense is, among other things, the Deflator nickname is about weight loss, the NFL has it out for them, the whole operation was a sting, the NFL guy used profanity at them, they didn't get warned beforehand not to cheat & that 100 secs isn't enough time for a ref to relieve himself in the bathroom.

WHAT DOES COMMON SENSE TELL YOU?

 

[ThunderHorse]

:yep: trick plays that were banned and a flea flicker with a deflated football vs a JV secondary.

Pat yourselves on the backs Pats fans.

:rockclap:

If anything, that's great coaching.

New England won 4 games by one possession scores this year. 12-4 record.

Pat fans and apologists love to point out he played 6 quarters with regular footballs. They don't consider the fact that this has probably been going on for a while, softer footballs give you an advantage as far as turnovers go, and those close wins are incredibly important as to playoff seeding. Do they win those close games if they're playing with a regular ball? Do they earn the #1 seed and get homefield advantage throughout the playoffs if they're playing with a regular ball?

I had the same conversation with some peers in person the other day as to whether or not we should look the other way because of rumors that "other teams do this all the time". There's probably a lot of guys juicing too that haven't been caught too, it's irrelevant. New England got caught, and got caught red handed. The text messages are damning, and even if one doesn't want to take those under consideration and they believe this Patriot propaganda that McNally was talking about his weight, the suspension and fines probably have more to do with the Patriots failure to cooperate with the investigation.

Why would Brady refuse to give up his phone? Especially considering Wells informed Brady and his Agent that he wouldn't even personally look at the phone. Brady didn't even have to fear any other illegal activity being found out, because Wells agreed to allow Brady's agent to share messages considered relevant to this particular investigation and even told them he'd take their word that they were being honest in what they shared.

I wonder if Kraft is still holding out hope to receive an apology. I also wonder if there is another Franchise that has the ironic stigma of having a cheating scandal attached to all of their superbowls?