Lol at JtRaines being a retard... Macken and I had a site with a completely seperate user base other then 15-20 VSN'ers that came over... we didn't fail, I spoke to rush and so did Macken this was better for everybody, all those sites were made out of necessity, everybody knew that we were all still VSNers. And funny... we have Rush... but without Argath it wouldn't be possible, without Lefty Rush wouldn't of done it... and ... without me Rush would of been twice as lonely at night :wub: