what uppppp

[dave]

This is the greatest thing Izzy has ever said and it's so true. These Madden Nation ballers aren't good. They aren't tricking or out scheming anyone, they're just trickin the AI and taking advantage of a video game. No strategy whatsoever.

Exactly.

What the Madden Challenge guys do has nothing to do with football whatsoever.

Hell, look at Korn's e-book preview. The play he shows has nothing to do with real football - it's simply a play where the CPU doesn't cover an RB out of the backfield on a pass - every time.

The Madden Challenge guys are brilliant on the sticks, but if we relied on them during the time of creationism, the wheel would not be invented.

 

[dave]

cheese around here basically = knowing the game really well and being very very good.
only thing that is really is cheese is using glitches and gimmicks that the developers fucked up on.

what pisses me off is when people clearly play disrespectfully.

no one likes getting run all over the field and that's where most the bitching comes from around here.

Can't remember ever seeing you online. Not even once.

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

Exactly.

What the Madden Challenge guys do has nothing to do with football whatsoever.

Hell, look at Korn's e-book preview. The play he shows has nothing to do with real football - it's simply a play where the CPU doesn't cover an RB out of the backfield on a pass - every time.

The Madden Challenge guys are brilliant on the sticks, but if we relied on them during the time of creationism, the wheel would not be invented.

This= Why I learn the ways of them... Im smarter, and more "stick skilled" then these guys, IMO, knowing what they are doing and the advantages they have puts me on another level, I wont use it agains tVSN guys, but I feel if I continue dealin wit online cheese I can truly get on another level, just as Izzy is doing.

 

[dave]

This= Why I learn the ways of them... Im smarter, and more "stick skilled" then these guys, IMO, knowing what they are doing and the advantages they have puts me on another level, I wont use it agains tVSN guys, but I feel if I continue dealin wit online cheese I can truly get on another level, just as Izzy is doing.

IMO, a guy like you who's so addicted to his Tracker record and power rankings would use this shit against VSN guys.
You're absolutely obsessed with how other people perceive you - the same way Korn used to be - and you would definitely use his entire playbook ... regardless of who you are playing.
To Korn's credit - at least he acknowledged this and moved on to the Madden Challenge stuff.

 

[DDRGuido]

Haven't read the thread but skimmed it, grats izzy

sick twitter name korn. "boy i'm ali quick on the sitcks!"

 

[KoRnStARr]

Guys...lol.

Saying that Madden Challenge guys aren't good is a joke. Do you know how many people play freestyle? That go to these tournaments? It's a hard transisiton for people to make, and it's simple. A lot of people DON'T HAVE GOOD MADDEN MINDS. Not offensive minds, madden minds. Izzy, you talk about me tricking the AI. You're right, I do -- it's part of the reason why I'm great, I have a great madden mind.

But let's change this up a bit. Let's say you go and play on this level. You say, okay -- I need quick passes and unbumpables and a great scheme to beat these crazy defenses in this game. You don't know where to go, or how to go about looking at it from a tourny point of view. I was very impressed with your ability to beat nanos on here playing sim, although -- IT'S MUCH TOUGHER ON THE NORMAL GAME SPEED OFFLINE. The pressure SCREAMS. Now, the reason why I say I don't know how good you'd be is because of your "stick skills".

Guys at this level have great MADDEN MINDS (well, more like 6-8 have great madden minds, a lot of people just copy), but they also have GREAT STICK WORK. It's a combo in which you have to have.

And Izzy, I only ran what you gave me as you saw. Hell, in the LEX league I just beat Chow (4 time MC winner, mc finalist, mega bowl winner, madden nation 1) 34-10. Winner of that league gets over $1000 by the way. He's known for always having a great defense. I simply take what's given to me. You saw probably about 15% of my offense, why? Because you weren't able to really stop what I was doing.

This is where a lot of us get a bad wrap. It IS A CHESS MATCH playing freestyle. Not with conventional NFL offenses obviously. But, much like in the NFL, if a play is working with great success over and over again, guess what? They're going to run it, OVER AND OVER AGAIN. You have to ADJUST on both offense and defense, it's hard for a lot of people to do, even some with great stick skills.

 

[KoRnStARr]

The one thing that Korn is smart is. Because of the Nano. I see why he plays offense the way he plays it. If Korn don't throw the ball within 2 seconds. The QB is gone. He running with the QB. I guess he plays vs Nano all the time. That why his offense is like that. So in a way I don't blame the way he plays offense. But if someone stop that predictable offense. It a wrap for him.

lol, this is also one of the reasons why guys find unbumps, quick passes, etc etc.

And I have a great offensive scheme. Both times when I played Izzy with it I put up a crazy amount of points, although the first game I didn't really open it up that much at all.

And Mobb, yeah we trick the AI, but it's not like we're glitching the whole game, stop with that. We have rules against blatant glitches like the QB DRAW and stuff like that that are blatant glitches.

 

[BWEISS]

lol, this is also one of the reasons why guys find unbumps, quick passes, etc etc.

And I have a great offensive scheme. Both times when I played Izzy with it I put up a crazy amount of points, although the first game I didn't really open it up that much at all.

And Mobb, yeah we trick the AI, but it's not like we're glitching the whole game, stop with that. We have rules against blatant glitches like the QB DRAW and stuff like that that are blatant glitches.

I second this...

I run a freestyle league, and we have rules... there is no exploiting the game allowed. These are freestyle guys against freestyle guys, they know how to stop what they see and if they don't they soon learn. You don't abuse the glitches in the game, you abuse your opponent on what he does just like you do in sim, just different rules.

 

[OnlyOneBeerLeft]

IMO, a guy like you who's so addicted to his Tracker record and power rankings would use this shit against VSN guys.
You're absolutely obsessed with how other people perceive you - the same way Korn used to be - and you would definitely use his entire playbook ... regardless of who you are playing.
To Korn's credit - at least he acknowledged this and moved on to the Madden Challenge stuff.

Dave you really need to shut the fuck up and get a fucking life you loser, don't you have any real life friends to bother? Your on my dick nonstop, I haven't said a word about power rankings in a while, I dont care where some piece of shit loser who got blown out by me ranks me, I dont play tracker games anymore, so what the fuck are you doing bitching about me? I still play a few VSN guys like Buddha and company and I still play Turducken, if it wasn't for Houtz I'd of left a while ago.

And, for your information, all but maybe 2 plays in the playbook I use are acceptable with the rules changes. Nothing I have said is directed to you so why don't you go fuck with one of the MANY people here that use cheesy tactics against guys here, the only legit complaint I've had by anybody here is from Steeljake, which is laughable because everybody knows he bitches about every single thing regardless cuz he's a sore loser.

And like Korn has been saying, your perceiving this all wrong, there are guys that use blatant glitches, and then there are freestyle or tourney ballers, call them as you may. I played Korn he doesnt use glitches, he uses plays that you have to MANUALLY stop, you need to actually be a skilled player to stop them, its not like its some crazy impossible glitch where the guy is wide open every single play, you have to make adjustments. Football is about creating and executing plays that the other team can't stop, but in Madden its a huge problem? How sim is that? " Oh well I couldn't stop that play, so its not allowed here! " GTFO.

 

[windy city]

Guys...lol.

Saying that Madden Challenge guys aren't good is a joke. Do you know how many people play freestyle? That go to these tournaments? It's a hard transisiton for people to make, and it's simple. A lot of people DON'T HAVE GOOD MADDEN MINDS. Not offensive minds, madden minds. Izzy, you talk about me tricking the AI. You're right, I do -- it's part of the reason why I'm great, I have a great madden mind.

But let's change this up a bit. Let's say you go and play on this level. You say, okay -- I need quick passes and unbumpables and a great scheme to beat these crazy defenses in this game. You don't know where to go, or how to go about looking at it from a tourny point of view. I was very impressed with your ability to beat nanos on here playing sim, although -- IT'S MUCH TOUGHER ON THE NORMAL GAME SPEED OFFLINE. The pressure SCREAMS. Now, the reason why I say I don't know how good you'd be is because of your "stick skills".

Guys at this level have great MADDEN MINDS (well, more like 6-8 have great madden minds, a lot of people just copy), but they also have GREAT STICK WORK. It's a combo in which you have to have.

And Izzy, I only ran what you gave me as you saw. Hell, in the LEX league I just beat Chow (4 time MC winner, mc finalist, mega bowl winner, madden nation 1) 34-10. Winner of that league gets over $1000 by the way. He's known for always having a great defense. I simply take what's given to me. You saw probably about 15% of my offense, why? Because you weren't able to really stop what I was doing.

This is where a lot of us get a bad wrap. It IS A CHESS MATCH playing freestyle. Not with conventional NFL offenses obviously. But, much like in the NFL, if a play is working with great success over and over again, guess what? They're going to run it, OVER AND OVER AGAIN. You have to ADJUST on both offense and defense, it's hard for a lot of people to do, even some with great stick skills.

Man made a great point.....it eallly make since IMo, i never was a Freestly basher because thats what most people play offline anyway, What u accomplished your bound to have cats coming after you and hating on your style...........Keep up the good work broooo

Thats been my problem over the years , and not being real creative and manual but Sim stlyle of course,,,lol thats about to change... Woooooooooooooooo

 

[mobbdeep1122]

Guys...lol.

Saying that Madden Challenge guys aren't good is a joke. Do you know how many people play freestyle? That go to these tournaments? It's a hard transisiton for people to make, and it's simple. A lot of people DON'T HAVE GOOD MADDEN MINDS. Not offensive minds, madden minds. Izzy, you talk about me tricking the AI. You're right, I do -- it's part of the reason why I'm great, I have a great madden mind.

But let's change this up a bit. Let's say you go and play on this level. You say, okay -- I need quick passes and unbumpables and a great scheme to beat these crazy defenses in this game. You don't know where to go, or how to go about looking at it from a tourny point of view. I was very impressed with your ability to beat nanos on here playing sim, although -- IT'S MUCH TOUGHER ON THE NORMAL GAME SPEED OFFLINE. The pressure SCREAMS. Now, the reason why I say I don't know how good you'd be is because of your "stick skills".

Guys at this level have great MADDEN MINDS (well, more like 6-8 have great madden minds, a lot of people just copy), but they also have GREAT STICK WORK. It's a combo in which you have to have.

And Izzy, I only ran what you gave me as you saw. Hell, in the LEX league I just beat Chow (4 time MC winner, mc finalist, mega bowl winner, madden nation 1) 34-10. Winner of that league gets over $1000 by the way. He's known for always having a great defense. I simply take what's given to me. You saw probably about 15% of my offense, why? Because you weren't able to really stop what I was doing.

This is where a lot of us get a bad wrap. It IS A CHESS MATCH playing freestyle. Not with conventional NFL offenses obviously. But, much like in the NFL, if a play is working with great success over and over again, guess what? They're going to run it, OVER AND OVER AGAIN. You have to ADJUST on both offense and defense, it's hard for a lot of people to do, even some with great stick skills.

I'll give you that. You guys definitely have to be good at the video game. Doesn't mean you have to know the game of football, though, You have to know the video game and how to exploit it. To me, that's not really skill.

But you do make a good point when you say you have a great Madden mind. I also know you were a good baller before you went all out freestyle on us, so you definitely have a good football mind as well.

I just think these guys practice no real football strategies and just lab all day on how they can run a play that confuses a computer to where you get instant pressure or wide open receivers. That's not football.

When I play Madden, I have my strategy when I go into a game, which is obviously the spread offense. I then change my strategy depending on if I'm being blitzed to death, if the guy is taking away my underneath passes, if he's taking away the big play, etc. I adjust based on what I see. That's football. You just run the plays that you know leaves guys wide open regardless of what your opponent does, which is exploiting a video game. Not football. That's just my opinion and I know you got yours.

You know I got nothin but love for ya Korn and want you to do well and win all these tournaments. You spend alot of time and money on Madden, so don't take this as hating.

 

[JOHNNYTHECLOWN]

Korn was up playa.

Korn last year madden challenge in New York when we saw each other. I won the 30 and over tournament lol. I signed up too late for the regular tournament. My game was tight last year. I know beating 6 people who is over 30 is not the same but still I won. Didn't get nothing really. I won 5 fucking video games. That was it. That disgusting.

But anyway. Back to MM History.

I'm the only person in MM History to beat.

Kornstar in the Afc Conference game 38-31. I had KC and he had Pitt.
than I beat
Dsa in the Superbowl 41-35. I had KC and he had Arizona. 4 tries for DSA to Larry for the win and all 4 tries was incomplete. I was so happy that I went to the liquid store and got me a larry morgan and went to the regular store and got me some wine cooler.

Korn I will play you tourney style because I need my practice when I go to the New York madden challenge.

izzy cracks me the hell up

 

[steeljake]

Dave you really need to shut the fuck up and get a fucking life you loser, don't you have any real life friends to bother? Your on my dick nonstop, I haven't said a word about power rankings in a while, I dont care where some piece of shit loser who got blown out by me ranks me, I dont play tracker games anymore, so what the fuck are you doing bitching about me? I still play a few VSN guys like Buddha and company and I still play Turducken, if it wasn't for Houtz I'd of left a while ago.

And, for your information, all but maybe 2 plays in the playbook I use are acceptable with the rules changes. Nothing I have said is directed to you so why don't you go fuck with one of the MANY people here that use cheesy tactics against guys here, the only legit complaint I've had by anybody here is from Steeljake, which is laughable because everybody knows he bitches about every single thing regardless cuz he's a sore loser.

And like Korn has been saying, your perceiving this all wrong, there are guys that use blatant glitches, and then there are freestyle or tourney ballers, call them as you may. I played Korn he doesnt use glitches, he uses plays that you have to MANUALLY stop, you need to actually be a skilled player to stop them, its not like its some crazy impossible glitch where the guy is wide open every single play, you have to make adjustments. Football is about creating and executing plays that the other team can't stop, but in Madden its a huge problem? How sim is that? " Oh well I couldn't stop that play, so its not allowed here! " GTFO.

you just admitted you play freestyle ball, os why are you trying to play regular guys? we all know when you are down your overblown ego will force you to cheese it up to win. i dont complain everytime i lose, if i did i would be on here aftre every game. i played plenty of people and lost and just said gg, but the way you play is obviously not sim, you even admit it. i seriously question if you even understand sim communty rules at all. I will hand it to korn, i dont like what he does but he doesnt hide it.

 

[PP]

I dont care if people wanna play freestyle but i hate how korn used to pretend he was SIM when he wasnt and some guys here do the same crap. If your freestyle then ok but dont pretend your sim.

 

[MmmmBeeeeer]

I dont care if people wanna play freestyle but i hate how korn used to pretend he was SIM when he wasnt and some guys here do the same crap. If your freestyle then ok but dont pretend your sim.

IMO, there are quite a few people here that I would say are more freestyle than sim

 

[killgod]

IMO, there are quite a few people here that I would say are more freestyle than sim

you can say that again.

 

[AllOutBlitz]

Thx bro, I know you prob get this from a lot of people, but you wanna Lab with me a bit, maybe a couple games a week, give me pointers etc, try and find some new things, Izzy same with you, I know its more about yourself and winnign the money, but id be really be grateful trying some stuff with you guys, hell, we could actually maybe take the tournament by storm if we all help each tohers strengths and weaknesses.

LMAO..so corny

 

[Liquidrob]

You could beat izzy the next 50 games by 30 points a game and it still wouldn't change the fact that IZZY beat you twice. I don't care if you were using the tecmo super bowl playbook, you don't lose to izzy twice.

REAL TALK

lol @ Korn trying to peddle some 'ebook' on madden, Korns game was always garbage, even when he was 'sim' it was crap, nothing better than beating up korn by 30 in a league game and he is calling play actions and pump faking 4 times on the drop back and still getting user picked

lol @ anyone trying to justify 'freestyle' ball as football skill and a 'game of adjustments', take that shit somewhere else

the only book someone would buy from Korn should be titled 'How to get through life and doorways with the head thr size of a pumpkin'

sidenote: Izzy, you are also the only guy in MM history to lose a playoff game up 31-0, lolololol

 

[adembroski]

uppppp is unpronounceable.

 

[for surtain 22]

Can't remember ever seeing you online. Not even once.

what is the relevance of this post