whos the better overall player Ray Allen or Manu Ginobili

[jags224]

archer if you want to bring up defensive stats compare him to ron artest who can go to the hole and can shoot from deep and he is a way better defender than manu

so now your comparing ron artest to manu ginobili? lmfao

 

[JrRawlins]

Mr shuttlesworth..... not sure what Ray Allen these guys are watching.... but the Ray allen in Milwaukee and Seattle was a top 15 overall player in the league.... averaged right around 20 a night and was the main scoring option on these teams for almost a decade..... Manu been piggy-backin off Duncan since he came into the league....

 

[Yawkey Way]

i know damn well that i can spell better than your dumbass and im damn sure i know more about sports than you do

Thank you,
A smarter person than your dumbass

OH HELL NAW YOU DID NOT JUST DO THAT.

but seriously, i use things like commas-->, periods-->. and basic sentence structure.

and theres no way your 12 year old "dumbass" self knows more about boston sports than me.

 

[Joey P]

Just for yadda yadda yadda

Rubén Wolkowyski, Carlos Delfino, Andrés Nocioni, Leonardo Gutiérrez, Luis Scola, Hugo Sconochini, yadda yadda yadda Gabriel Fernández, Wálter Herrmann, Fabricio Oberto, Alejandro yadda yadda yadda Montecchia, Emanuel Ginóbili and Juan yadda yadda yadda Ignacio "Pepe" Sánchez.

Wondering yadda yadda yadda win the gold in yadda yadda yaddaUSA on the way

In a game I beleive Manu yadda yadda yadda

Still waiting for you to tell me who he piggybacked on for this gold medal

Who gives a shit.

Blame Jerry C. for assembling that weak ass team.

 

[jags224]

some pleaseee fucking tell me how hes been piggybacking

 

[Archer]

Who gives a shit.

Blame Jerry C. for assembling that weak ass team.

So I will take it you dont have an answer ?

Nicely edited though , you dont give a shit when it proves you to be wrong .

And you wonder why Messenger called you a horrible poster

 

[Archer]

Greatest power forward ever, who demands a double/triple team opens up a lot of shots.

Still though, Manu is a great player, and I'm sure he could be the number 1 guy on a team and have success. Point is, that is speculation, where as Ray has already proven he can be the number 1 guy.

So anybody who plays on Duncan's team is piggybacking? It's not his fault the Spurs drafted him .

He should have demanded a trade to the Knicks just to show his dominance!!!

 

[jags224]

who gives duncan the touches and all the nice passes to him not, tony parkers selfish ass but manu ginobili unselfish ass lol

 

[Yawkey Way]

So anybody who plays on Duncan's team is piggybacking? It's not his fault the Spurs drafted him .

He should have demanded a trade to the Knicks just to show his dominance!!!

yeah your right, the celtics drafted him.

 

[Archer]

yeah your right, the celtics drafted him.

???? No idea what that means lol

Its not his fault the Spurs who happened to have the best PF of all time drafted him.

 

[Joey P]

So I will take it you dont have an answer ?

Nicely edited though , you dont give a shit when it proves you to be wrong .

And you wonder why Messenger called you a horrible poster

Horrible posting is not talking about the Forum Topic...which is Ray Allen Vs Manu Ginobili...

Olympics???

We been killing their asses and when we send our B team over, we learn our lesson, ok and?

4 years later, the rematch...118-81

What?

 

[Archer]

Horrible posting is not talking about the Forum Topic...which is Ray Allen Vs Manu Ginobili...

Olympics???

We been killing their asses and when we send our B team over, we learn our lesson, ok and?

4 years later, the rematch...118-81

What?

You said all he does it piggyback , I showed how Manu doesnt piggyback because he led a team of bums and average joes to a gold . Which by the way is still on topic

Then you come back with nothing worthwile , just edit quotes which is the normal vsn dumbass thing to do when you have nothing to come back with

B team? Hmmmmmmmmm

* Centers: Tim Duncan, Emeka Okafor
* Forwards: Carmelo Anthony, Carlos Boozer, Richard Jefferson, Shawn Marion, Lamar Odom, Amare Stoudemire, LeBron James
* Guards: Allen Iverson, Stephon Marbury, Dwyane Wade
* Head Coach: Larry Brown

look at that B Team!!! Even the guy he piggybacked on is in the team

You arent even worth arguing with at this point

Before you try twist this , I'm not trying to say he led the Spurs but in no way did he piggyback imo

 

[jags224]

Horrible posting is not talking about the Forum Topic...which is Ray Allen Vs Manu Ginobili...

Olympics???

We been killing their asses and when we send our B team over, we learn our lesson, ok and?

4 years later, the rematch...118-81

What?

GREAT WIN, guess what manu ginobili played the first 6 minutes of the game and thats when he fucked up his ankle, great win dude didnt even play 1 quarter

 

[jags224]

One intangible attribute that players have, like hustle and toughness, is health, which is probably one of the most important ones. Ray has far better health than Manu does.

dont expect ray getting injured badly coming off of screens lol, the why manu plays all over the court and shit there is a higher rate of him getting injured

 

[The Messenger]

dont expect ray getting injured badly coming off of screens lol, the why manu plays all over the court and shit there is a higher rate of him getting injured

Yeah, but the time he spends off the court holds the same value regardless. Gotta give Rondo that one.

 

[jags224]

Yeah, but the time he spends off the court holds the same value regardless. Gotta give Rondo that one.

you mean ray? but yeah i agree

 

[jags224]

Ray plays smart, not hard. Would you rather someone play 82 games and still be a legit player, or someone who is slightly better, but only plays for 40 games?

yeah id rather have someone thats durable, but i like manu so id rather have him lol

 

[Joey P]

You said all he does it piggyback , I showed how Manu doesnt piggyback because he led a team of bums and average joes to a gold . Which by the way is still on topic

Then you come back with nothing worthwile , just edit quotes which is the normal vsn dumbass thing to do when you have nothing to come back with

B team? Hmmmmmmmmm

* Centers: Tim Duncan, Emeka Okafor
* Forwards: Carmelo Anthony, Carlos Boozer, Richard Jefferson, Shawn Marion, Lamar Odom, Amare Stoudemire, LeBron James
* Guards: Allen Iverson, Stephon Marbury, Dwyane Wade
* Head Coach: Larry Brown

look at that B Team!!! Even the guy he piggybacked on is in the team

You arent even worth arguing with at this point

Before you try twist this , I'm not trying to say he led the Spurs but in no way did he piggyback imo

How does piggybacking to NBA rings equal the equivalent of a Gold medal?

We sent a rookie LBJ, Melo and Wade, as our stars, to go up against grown men.Timmy did his thing but it all came down to basic guard play, which we failed at. We didnt even have a PURE PG.

At this point, its clear you're a player fan and not a student of the game.

 

[jags224]

Few scenarios. If it was game 7 of the NBA finals, and I needed a huge performance from one of my players, I would take Manu over Ray. For an entire season, I'd take Ray, and for 3 seconds left on the clock down by 2, I'd take Ray.

if there is 10 sec on the clock i take manu iso all day

 

[Joey P]

if there is 10 sec on the clock i take manu iso all day

Thats because he needs the whole 10 sec to set himself up.

Ray is pure catch and pull. No step back, flail or flop. Catch and pull in yo mouf!!!!