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whos the better overall player Ray Allen or Manu Ginobili

Joey Punisher said:
Forgive me, I didn't know we was getting graded on posting. Maybe I need to throw more fucks and shits in my posts so I can fit in.

Sorry, Duncan and Parker are the ones that make SA go, Ginobili just helps.

I've seen enough of his kind when Kukoc played here. Pair him up with 2 great players, he seems like he is niiiice. Put him on his own, he sucks hard.

Fuck Manu weak ass...does that make me a better poster now?
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So who were the stars who made him go on the Argentina team?

And nobody is grading posters but when you say things like "if he was so good he would start" people are bound to call you stupid
 
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archer2k407 said:
Your bringing up Allen's PPG , Allen is a better shooter so of course he has better PPG in his career (considering neither are get in close guys) . We are talking about who is more complete not who scores the most points , you nicely avoided all defensive stats

Then we can talk about the stats that dont show up , making a player miss all night with a hand in his face , toughess and hustle . 3 things in which Manu does well that there isint many recognised stats for .

And the people who compare stats all the time are fucking retarded

A complete player is not measured by PPG or APG and never will be
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ok ray better offensive player manu better defensive player stats or no stats archer you fucking retarted stats do mean things thats why there stats you two get some basketball knowledge
 
Thesportsguy said:
ok ray better offensive player manu better defensive player stats or no stats archer you fucking retarted stats do mean things thats why there stats you two get some basketball knowledge
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They mean something but not everything

There is no "complete player" stat last time I saw

If you can find one let me know

Infact i'm sure Mbuser could find one because he seems to be the king of finding stats I've never heard of
 
Joey Punisher said:
Forgive me, I didn't know we was getting graded on posting. Maybe I need to throw more fucks and shits in my posts so I can fit in.

Sorry, Duncan and Parker are the ones that make SA go, Ginobili just helps.

I've seen enough of his kind when Kukoc played here. Pair him up with 2 great players, he seems like he is niiiice. Put him on his own, he sucks hard.

Fuck Manu weak ass...does that make me a better poster now?
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Are you honestly trying to compare Toni Kukoc to Manu Ginobili? Manu's per 48's are among the best in the league dude.. everyone in the NBA knows this guy can be deadly on the court. Its ridiculous how you much you're underrating dude.
 
again ill say it allen is better on offence manu is better on defence. and archer i agree with you they arent everything but they are most of it.
 
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Rubén Wolkowyski, Carlos Delfino, Andrés Nocioni, Leonardo Gutiérrez, Luis Scola, Hugo Sconochini, Gabriel Fernández, Wálter Herrmann, Fabricio Oberto, Alejandro Montecchia, Emanuel Ginóbili and Juan Ignacio "Pepe" Sánchez.

Wondering who the stars were on this team that helped Argentina win the gold in 2004 including beating USA on the way

In a game I beleive Manu scored 29points
 
skipwondah33 said:
Battier and Bowen do these things as well but their not up for compairison.

Its really two different types of players. Manu has a grind, all out game. Ray's game is smooth and natural.

We don't know if Manu would be the same without Duncan and Parker, but we do know that they all won championships together and they compliment one another very nicely. Just like when Ray went to Boston and had the luxury of playing with KG and PP.

What about Manu compared to Tracy McGrady? Their both hurt equally the same
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Manu scores better and passes better than Bowen or Battier aswell as playing D that is comparble , he just brung up PPG as if it showed Ray was better

And the difference is Manu has won a round in the playoffs and was probably the MVP when they played the Pistons

Was McGrady ever?
 
fuck tmac, i literally havent seen him play in 3 years, dude cant even get out of the 1st round, pretty funny how he didnt play this playoffs and they make it out of the 1st round
 
Bob Kuzzy said:
Are you honestly trying to compare Toni Kukoc to Manu Ginobili? Manu's per 48's are among the best in the league dude.. everyone in the NBA knows this guy can be deadly on the court. Its ridiculous how you much you're underrating dude.
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LOL, lets just say Manu knows he wouldn't last in the old NBA.

Toni did, he piggybacked his way to 3 rings, just like Manu.
 
Joey Punisher said:
LOL, lets just say Manu knows he wouldn't last in the old NBA.

Toni did, he piggybacked his way to 3 rings, just like Manu.
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Just for Joey Punisher

Rubén Wolkowyski, Carlos Delfino, Andrés Nocioni, Leonardo Gutiérrez, Luis Scola, Hugo Sconochini, Gabriel Fernández, Wálter Herrmann, Fabricio Oberto, Alejandro Montecchia, Emanuel Ginóbili and Juan Ignacio "Pepe" Sánchez.

Wondering who the stars were on this team that helped Argentina win the gold in 2004 including beating USA on the way

In a game I beleive Manu scored 29points

Still waiting for you to tell me who he piggybacked on for this gold medal
 
archer if you want to bring up defensive stats compare him to ron artest who can go to the hole and can shoot from deep and he is a way better defender than manu
 
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We would like to ask Thesportsguy to A) Learn essential grammar and vocab as well as take 3 mandatory typing classes. B) Never..i repeat, ever..enter a thread and voice your opinion on anything boston related again.

Thank you, have a nice day.
 
Yawkey Way said:
On Behalf of the Greater Boston Sports Fan Base,

We would like to ask Thesportsguy to A) Learn essential grammar and vocab as well as take 3 mandatory typing classes. B) Never..i repeat, ever..enter a thread and voice your opinion on anything boston related again.

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i know damn well that i can spell better than your dumbass and im damn sure i know more about sports than you do

Thank you,
A smarter person than your dumbass
 
Yawkey Way said:
On Behalf of the Greater Boston Sports Fan Base,

We would like to ask Thesportsguy to A) Learn essential grammar and vocab as well as take 3 mandatory typing classes. B) Never..i repeat, ever..enter a thread and voice your opinion on anything boston related again.

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I just laughed out loud badly
 
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