Official Xbox One Thread

[jms493]

Why make the console backwards compat.... they can offer ps1,ps2,ps3 on PSN for more $$$$

Yes I am sure they will try and sell/download you previous gen games...but your discs wont work. Keep you 360/PS3.

[Twigg4075]

I will never get this argument. I've never played a PS2 game on my PS3 because it isn't backwards compatible, and I never cared...that's what my PS2 is for. The TWO times I used an XBOX game on my 360 it was dogshit. That is money TOTALLY wasted in manufacturing which then gets passed on to the consumer and becomes yet another reason to not buy because it's too expensive.

The one thing I could somewhat see myself behind is my XBLA and PSN games, just because they're so damn easy to pick up and play. But it's the same tech problem in the end, and I'd rather just play it on something I already have than spend more money on something new...so I can also use it as something that I already have.

I actually have and I was one of those people last gen that thought BC was a must for the new consoles. But even though I played several last gen games on these systems it's not that bg a deal to leave them out. Like JMS said, if you want to play them, keep your old systems. Although it is easy to clutter up your entertainment center/tv stand very quickly that way.

I just hope that I can still play my digital games as long as I hold onto my consoles. If Sony or MS tries some bullshit where they say that the DRM expires once you transfer your PSN/Live subscription over to the new console, meaning I lose access to all those games, I'll be furious. Or if Sony says that PS+ will only be active on the PS4 and all the games I've received from that will be dead.

I'm also curious as to how long they will even support these consoles? What if I decided I never want a PS4 or Xbox One? Will I be able to just keep renewing my PS+ and Live subscriptions for several more years? I highly doubt it.

[SethMode]

I actually have and I was one of those people last gen that thought BC was a must for the new consoles. But even though I played several last gen games on these systems it's not that bg a deal to leave them out. Like JMS said, if you want to play them, keep your old systems. Although it is easy to clutter up your entertainment center/tv stand very quickly that way.

I just hope that I can still play my digital games as long as I hold onto my consoles. If Sony or MS tries some bullshit where they say that the DRM expires once you transfer your PSN/Live subscription over to the new console, meaning I lose access to all those games, I'll be furious. Or if Sony says that PS+ will only be active on the PS4 and all the games I've received from that will be dead.

PS+ I wouldn't necessarily be shocked to see them yank from you, but anything you purchased I just can't imagine them doing anything worse than simply saying "If you want to play those games, they will only work on your 360/PS3". For as many dumb things as game companies do, that would honestly be stealing just for the sake of being a dick. "Hey, we took all your games that you can't play on the NEW console and also made it so you can't play them on the OLD console!"

But who the hell knows. I am as prepared to be shocked by their behavior as I am prepared for all of this to be a lot of internet bluster over nothing much.

[Primetime]

[Argath]

As long as companies like Valve exist (hell, as long as Steam just exists), gaming will be fine.

They're both already supporting indie developers. Sony is certainly talking an awesome game right now as far as indie's are concerned, but we'll see what the end result is. MS has spent basically the lifespan of the 360 making themselves into the asshole friend that nobody wants to hang out with anymore in the eyes of indies. It's a matter of, can Sony back up what they say, and can MS take their head out of their ass? Granted, there is a TON more into it on their ends that Steam mostly doesn't even have to worry about, but let's not act like that's what's going to fix everything. They will NEVER be able to match the freedom of Steam, so looking for the indies to save them isn't going to help, and they're never going to make enough money or feel secure enough to let the indies just do whatever they like. They have way too much more at stake.

Just throwing it out there, Steam was absolutely terrible and hated when it first came out. Everyone cried it was the end of gaming on computers. Their servers went down constantly, connections timed out, had to be online just to play an offline game etc etc etc and then they pulled their shit together. I still don't agree with their VAC permanent ban policy but they've gotten much better in the past 5 years or so.

I believe it was DoD and CS 1.6 that were the main games involved in the switch to Steam and Half Life 2 was the first major release on Steam.

[Twigg4075]

PS+ I wouldn't necessarily be shocked to see them yank from you, but anything you purchased I just can't imagine them doing anything worse than simply saying "If you want to play those games, they will only work on your 360/PS3". For as many dumb things as game companies do, that would honestly be stealing just for the sake of being a dick. "Hey, we took all your games that you can't play on the NEW console and also made it so you can't play them on the OLD console!"

But who the hell knows. I am as prepared to be shocked by their behavior as I am prepared for all of this to be a lot of internet bluster over nothing much.

My PS+ backlog is one of the main reasons why I want to hold off for quite a while. I can't imagine them doing it day one but I can definitely see them saying a year after PS4 launch that PS+ accounts will only function on PS4 which would mean all of the "free" content would disappear into the digital ether. That would be no bueno.

[Swarley]

I laugh every time the the argument for backwards compatibility is brought up (in reference to physical copies of games, not your digital purchases and crap like that). Just keep your current console instead of trading it in when you purchase next-gen. It's that simple.

[Twigg4075]

I laugh every time the the argument for backwards compatibility is brought up. Just keep your current console instead of trading it in when you purchase next-gen. It's that simple.

Wasn't there a rumor that there would be an Xbox mini type console that would be an add-on of sorts to this new console? It was alleged to be priced at $100. The PS Nation guys were joking that chances are if you trade in your 360 towards the purchase of the new console you'll probably get $100. But why bother if you still want to play your old games? You'd just be breaking even. Ha.

[SethMode]

Just throwing it out there, Steam was absolutely terrible and hated when it first came out. Everyone cried it was the end of gaming on computers. Their servers went down constantly, connections timed out, had to be online just to play an offline game etc etc etc and then they pulled their shit together. I still don't agree with their VAC permanent ban policy but they've gotten much better in the past 5 years or so.

I believe it was DoD and CS 1.6 that were the main games involved in the switch to Steam and Half Life 2 was the first major release on Steam.

Oh I know. I didn't use it for the longest time because its interface was awful, and often games I bought in a store just wouldn't run (single player games). My thing about them is that most of their stride has been in the right direction, learn from mistakes, take lumps, improve. Sony seems to have the right mentality now, but it's about results, not promises. MS is acting like my cat did after she learned that she could flush things down the toilet -- immediately find the most valuable small things, and flush them. Regardless, I think Steam of the major, visible companies that distribute games, are the ones in the best place to support indies with the fewest repurcussions, and they're the one that has been steadily doing the "right" thing (at least by me).

[Swarley]

Wasn't there a rumor that there would be an Xbox mini type console that would be an add-on of sorts to this new console? It was alleged to be priced at $100. The PS Nation guys were joking that chances are if you trade in your 360 towards the purchase of the new console you'll probably get $100. But why bother if you still want to play your old games? You'd just be breaking even. Ha.

Yeah but I haven't heard anything about it in awhile. And yeah, pretty sure that's what I got when I originally traded in my OG Xbox for my 360. I get that people would like to continue to play their current games, but for fucks sake, just don't be a cheapskate and keep your current consoles lol.

[jms493]

Will Crackdown ever come back?

[Aso]

I don't have enough money to keep my current console and get a new one. So once I get the next gen consoles I'm all in.

Now I do have a PS3 and 360 at the moment so I do have that going for me. I'm gonna trade in my 360 as well as Black Ops 2, Arkham City, kinect add-on (was probably a waste of money in hindsight), the 2 kinect games that came with it, and then probably get rid of some of my PS3 games.

No idea how much that will amount too but I'm relying on that to get me a decent amount of money towards getting a PS4.

[leaffan]

I don't have enough money to keep my current console and get a new one. So once I get the next gen consoles I'm all in.

Now I do have a PS3 and 360 at the moment so I do have that going for me. I'm gonna trade in my 360 as well as Black Ops 2, Arkham City, kinect add-on (was probably a waste of money in hindsight), the 2 kinect games that came with it, and then probably get rid of some of my PS3 games.

No idea how much that will amount too but I'm relying on that to get me a decent amount of money towards getting a PS4.

Thanks for the great addition to this thread about the xbox one.

[Epidemik]

[Maynard]

Here is my oh-so-humble opinion on this next generation:

Why is Microsoft doubling down on this TV stuff? Because they see the writing on the wall with the future of gaming...meaning, we're heading for another crash like after the Atari 2600. The user base is so huge with the 360 that they know they can't abandon it like they did with the original Xbox. People my age, and even a little younger look at the 360 and say, "Why the hell do I need anything new?"

I wouldn't even consider buying a new system until this one is nearly obsolete....unless it gives me a reason to buy it. Games will still be produced for years. It still plays movies and streams my music. Disconnecting from my cable provider is a pretty good reason, though.

Parents in 2013, especially those who weathered the recession and are much more financially responsible now, will be very wary of buying any new $600 system. How much will the games cost? $80? Too much. Why not stick with what they have?

This new generation of consoles is doomed. There is no need for it now, no matter how cool it is.

gaming pretty much sucks now. look at that lineup of releases for the xbox 1 - they are all game sequals. port them over to the new consoles and pretty up the graphics...slap a 60 dollar sticker on it and sell millions. its the madden formula that everyone follows now a days. its sad that people still buy this crap every year, but thats their choice as consumers. but its also whats killing gaming.

fuck these consoles. i wont buy either. i will upgrade my gpu and keep downloading all the games i can while the console people keep sucking the life out of what was once a great industry