Joe Montana Football 16

[MrBill]

I do remember that, and I was surprised to hear the latest rumors that brought it out to the XB1 and PC. Allegedly, or whatever. I still will believe it when I see it, and I still think this game doesn't come to fruition. If it releases in August like Madden, and all we have is a handful of screens by now, I can't see it.

I think it could announce at E3 in June and launch in late August/early September. RBI Baseball had a really short PR window last year.

[dave]

I wish the best of luck to any Madden competitor, but without the NFL licence and the inability to use total customizing without being sued, no competitor stands a chance.

[Golden Taters]

I think you are confusing the NFL license and the NFLPA license. They are two separate things. Microsoft could release a game with the NFL license that had all team names, stadiums and NFL logos/artwork in the game but only had Joe Montana as a named player. The community could do rosters (ala NCAA Football) within a few days of launch and boom, you are playing an NFL game with actual NFL rosters. There is so little information out there that this is all speculative but Microsoft does have an NFL license.

This is not true. There are different licenses, but EA still owns both. Their deal prohibits even first-party games, unlike the MLB baseball license with 2K.

Please link me to where it says Microsoft has the NFL license. This is false, they have a media agreement with the NFL but nowhere does it say anything about videogames, which EA has been continuing to control that monopoly. Per the NFL office last July, the deal with EA still lasts "a few more years".

[Golden Taters]

When the game was announced it was originally going to be an NFL Mobile Game.

http://www.goodgamebro.com/community...toqgt-jpg.816/

You can see an EA logo in one of the banners of this image. It was true that they were working on a mobile game originally, but this is not a Joe Montana game image.

[MrBill]

This is not true. There are different licenses, but EA still owns both. Their deal prohibits even first-party games, unlike the MLB baseball license with 2K.

Please link me to where it says Microsoft has the NFL license. This is false, they have a media agreement with the NFL but nowhere does it say anything about videogames, which EA has been continuing to control that monopoly. Per the NFL office last July, the deal with EA still lasts "a few more years".

EA's exclusivity deal expired at the end of 2013. Peter Moore has specifically avoided using the word exclusivity on EA's agreement with the NFL since that time when asked about it in interviews. EA hasn't mentioned their exclusivity with the NFL in any press release in about 18 months. It is quite possible that Microsoft secured rights to an NFL game on their platforms.

[Golden Taters]

EA's exclusivity deal expired at the end of 2013. Peter Moore has specifically avoided using the word exclusivity on EA's agreement with the NFL since that time when asked about it in interviews. EA hasn't mentioned their exclusivity with the NFL in any press release in about 18 months. It is quite possible that Microsoft secured rights to an NFL game on their platforms.

From June 2014...

The good news is that, per the league office, the exclusive EA license lasts only a “couple more years.” The bad news is that, thanks to all the money earned over the last decade by selling basically the same game with different players in the software and a different picture on the cover (which has been hyped into something far more significant than it is), EA will surely be able to extend the exclusive license, if it wants.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/06/20/ea-has-exclusive-license-from-nfl-for-a-couple-more-years/

[Golden Taters]

I would love for there to be another NFL game, or another football game alone, available. I just think a lot of the "rumors" is wishful thinking. The 2K football team has since moved on and is now working on the NBA 2K series. If you follow on OS there have also been other 2K rumors that have been shot down. But who knows, the developer for JM16 seems to have a liking for 2K football, bringing it up in the past as "motivation". At the very least it seems sim football is their target.

The only way I can see this being an exclusive Xbox title is if the game had the NFL license. The game will not push enough units without it to have Microsoft dishing out the money required to make the game exclusive to them.

What I believe will happen, probably unveiled at E3, is a new generic football console/PC game. Joe Montana's involvement makes me think there might even be more past legends, sort of like APF 2K8.

[tjcagsfl]

Damon Grow has spent several hours the last two Sunday evenings in the chat during the SFL's live broadcast of APF2K:

http://www.twitch.tv/simulationfl

He can't say much, but has made several statements:

1) he is blown away at the SFL's broadcast
2) he is a huge fan of NFL2K5 and APF2K8
3) he said JM16's customization is deep
4) he said 'change is coming' when someone asked him about 'why pay big name announcers when you can get local talent and add things often to keep it fresh. (have no idea what this means and may have been a general statement about simulation football )

As far as a lawsuits for providing customization tools... this has been done a dozen times in video games with zero lawsuits. Would EA or the NFL sue the public for using a tool to replicate their league? History tells us 'no'.

[dave]

Damon Grow has spent several hours the last two Sunday evenings in the chat during the SFL's live broadcast of APF2K:

http://www.twitch.tv/simulationfl

He can't say much, but has made several statements:

1) he is blown away at the SFL's broadcast
2) he is a huge fan of NFL2K5 and APF2K8
3) he said JM16's customization is deep
4) he said 'change is coming' when someone asked him about 'why pay big name announcers when you can get local talent and add things often to keep it fresh. (have no idea what this means and may have been a general statement about simulation football )

As far as a lawsuits for providing customization tools... this has been done a dozen times in video games with zero lawsuits. Would EA or the NFL sue the public for using a tool to replicate their league? History tells us 'no'.

I hope you're right.

[Derrville]

Backbreaker had the deepest customization program Ive ever seen in a video game and nothing happened to it.

[tjcagsfl]

Backbreaker had the deepest customization program Ive ever seen in a video game and nothing happened to it.

Concur. I imagine a company could get in trouble with providing a tool and the means to share files/teams. The tool by itself, without a means to share the files, which requires individuals to customize their own team seem to be off limits as far as legalities. Regardless, JM16 is now on record saying that franchise mode will be a core part of their game and they will offer extensive customization.

[ThunderHorse]

You'd think after the Rex Dixon debacle last year they'd slow down on this type of stuff. I guess arrogance is hard to swallow though.

I'll admit though, this type of attitude makes me glad that I skipped on Madden the last 2 years and doesn't make my decision hard this year either.

[buckeye]

That's pretty funny.

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[ThunderHorse]

So funny that he deleted the tweet.

I guess EA is learning though. Last year Dixon said it on video. At least this way they can pretend it never happened.

[MrBill]

That tweet was more of a shot than anything Rex said last year. I think it would be a safe bet that EA's PR department called Donny in to talk to them about that one