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  • Lanteri
    No longer a noob
    • Feb 2009
    • 2723

    #16
    Originally posted by Rudi
    Vernon Wells.
    ...everyone (except the GM that gave him that contract) knows he sucks, lol. He's about as far from overrated as you can get.

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    • EmpireWF
      Giants in the Super Bowl
      • Mar 2009
      • 24082

      #17
      Jake Peavy, although he gets some relief because he's been hurt.

      How about Cole Hamels? Only thing preventing me from saying he DEFINITELY IS, is the fact right now he's only a #4. And as a #4, he's actually one of the better #4s in the league.


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      • Lanteri
        No longer a noob
        • Feb 2009
        • 2723

        #18
        Ichiro's my pick btw.

        But, I think everyone's caught on to that by now as well too.

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        • Warner2BruceTD
          2011 Poster Of The Year
          • Mar 2009
          • 26142

          #19
          Originally posted by Lanteri
          Ichiro's my pick btw.

          But, I think everyone's caught on to that by now as well too.
          I disagree strongly on this one.

          He's a hitting machine who runs and plays good defense. What's not to like?

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          • Tengo Juego
            Posts a lot
            • Jun 2009
            • 4289

            #20
            Originally posted by Lanteri
            Ichiro's my pick btw.

            But, I think everyone's caught on to that by now as well too.

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            • SethMode
              Master of Mysticism
              • Feb 2009
              • 5754

              #21
              Originally posted by EmpireWF
              How about Cole Hamels? Only thing preventing me from saying he DEFINITELY IS, is the fact right now he's only a #4. And as a #4, he's actually one of the better #4s in the league.
              Are you serious? There are few people that consider him an ace, and even then, he's really only had one bad season (albeit he doesn't have much of a sample size yet). If Hamels is the most anything, it's the most unlucky. Remember last season when his ERA was around or less than 1.00 for like a month and a half and yet he didn't have a win in like 6 starts? They never hit for him.

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              • ThomasTomasz
                • Nov 2024

                #22
                Originally posted by NAHSTE
                The one thing I'll say for Reyes is he's amazing to watch in person. I once saw him hit a triple from really great seats behind home plate. It was one of the top baseball moments I've ever witnessed. He was batting LH and hit a shot to the right field gap that one hopped the fence, I swear he was at third base before the ball even got back to the relay man.

                So a lot of his hype is based on his insane tools. I agree that he needs to put together a better leadoff man repertoire and stay healthy for a change, but he's not as overrated as his teammate David "E5" Wright.
                Here is the reason why I feel he is overrated. I remember reading an article where Reyes could command a $100 million contract next off-season. I thought no way, but Carl Crawford comes along and gets his monster deal from Boston, and its not a far stretch (save Crawford has been more healthy than Reyes.) Like Reyes, I also believe Crawford is overrated, but to a lesser extent.

                Both are similar players- top of the order, can run like the wind, great defense. Both do not provide a lot of power and they are best suited to the top of the order. Neither are worth $100 million, but in their roles, they are valuable players, and players who I like watching. I always enjoy watching Crawford, and I saw him quite a bit as an Oriole fan.

                Hope that explains things better.

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                • shag773
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 2721

                  #23
                  Originally posted by EmpireWF
                  How about Cole Hamels? Only thing preventing me from saying he DEFINITELY IS, is the fact right now he's only a #4. And as a #4, he's actually one of the better #4s in the league.
                  I'l give you a pass because you're a Mets fan, but if you really look at his numbers I'm not sure how you can say he's overrated. Granted, '09 was not a good year for him, but he got better every year before that and had a really good bounce back year in '10.

                  One of the better #4's in the league? C'mon man....

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                  • mcstl25
                    M-Castle
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 2434

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Lanteri
                    Ichiro's my pick btw.

                    But, I think everyone's caught on to that by now as well too.
                    You gotta explain this one. If anything, I'd say that Ichiro is underrated. He's been the most consistent player not named Pujols in the majors during the last 10 years, and that's after he put in 9 seasons in Japan. Just imagine if he would have played his entire career in the US? He'd likely be closing in on Rose's hit record by now.

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                    • manchild24
                      Kyle got fired
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 5863

                      #25
                      Ichiro is definately NOT OVERRATED. Plays on probably the shittiest team in the league, never demands a trade like some of these other guys and hitting 310 is a down year for him.

                      Cole Hamles had one bad season. If anything I think there is more pressure on him this year at the #4 spot because of the three guys in front of him and he is expected to win.

                      Over-rated (where to start, here are some guys that pop into mind)

                      Mike Hampton
                      AJ Burnett
                      Adrian Beltre - I think this guy only plays in contract years
                      Brady Anderson
                      Mark McGwire - career 260 hitter who hit 300 maybe 4 times in his 16 years.
                      Sammy Sosa - career 250 hitter who hit 300 during his "juice days"
                      Daisuke Matsuzaka - even though I love the guy
                      Joba Chamberlain

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                      • FedEx227
                        Delivers
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 10454

                        #26
                        Ichiro is overrated in the sense that he's paid like a superstar but generates runs like a slap hitter.

                        200 singles are impressive, but they don't help your team a whole lot. Add in the fact that he's really not getting on base anymore than most of the other superstars takes him out of that class for me. Career 117 OPS+ doesn't deserve to be in the highest paid category of players.
                        VoicesofWrestling.com

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                        • manchild24
                          Kyle got fired
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 5863

                          #27
                          His contract is pretty sick the way its negoiated (but good for him). If Seattle would pay him and traded him, they'd be the Pirates of the west coast. Well they are, but atleast they have to big draws in Felix and Ichiro

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                          • shag773
                            Senior Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 2721

                            #28
                            Cole Hamels is overrated.....

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                            • FedEx227
                              Delivers
                              • Mar 2009
                              • 10454

                              #29
                              Originally posted by manchild24
                              His contract is pretty sick the way its negoiated (but good for him). If Seattle would pay him and traded him, they'd be the Pirates of the west coast. Well they are, but atleast they have to big draws in Felix and Ichiro
                              He makes $25 million annually, he just gets something like 5% onto his retirement. That's a lot of money for a guy who really only hits a lot of singles.
                              VoicesofWrestling.com

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                              • manchild24
                                Kyle got fired
                                • Nov 2008
                                • 5863

                                #30
                                Im not arguing, any baseball salary is over-rated. Carl Crawford just got what 170 million or something and his numbers across the board are similar to Ichiro. maybe 10 more Hrs and 40 or 50 RBI a year (but the rbi have to do with Ichiro leading off). Ichiro gets like 40-50 more hits a year and and scores 100 runs every year (except the last two, but thats when they really sucked balls)

                                Crawford get 15 SB more a year, but I think Ichiro is the better defender and stronger arm.

                                But I get what you're saying paying a guy until 2032 with his retirement for a singles hitter compared to Puljos. Ichy's a superstar in my opinion, he's on the downside of his career now being 33

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