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  • mgoblue2290
    Posts too much
    • Feb 2009
    • 7174

    #46
    Originally posted by Gonzo
    I don't care if you're a rookie or a 15-year veteran - you are paid to kick the ball, and, when asked, you should be able to kick the ball out.
    True, but to blame the whole game on him is ridiculous. It was a massive failure by the entire team, both players and coaches.

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    • Gonzo
      Colts Supremicist
      • Dec 2008
      • 5325

      #47
      Originally posted by North
      And he did those things. Yeah he fucked up, but why blame him solely? And the game was going into OT either way. That's not Dodge's fault. Game should have been put away much earlier. This is equally on Coughlin, the defense, and the rest of the Giants.
      Actually, it is Dodge's fault the Giants weren't in OT with a possible chance of winning the game. While I'm not short-sighted enough to blame everything on Dodge [they blew a 21 point lead for christ's sake], I'm not going to sit there and pat him on the back, "Tough game bud, you've been doing great all year, I'll give you a pass."

      Dodge is a large reason as to why the Giants woke up with another loss rather than a win; he's not the sole reason, and he's obviously not the only one.

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      • Gonzo
        Colts Supremicist
        • Dec 2008
        • 5325

        #48
        Originally posted by White Vick
        True, but to blame the whole game on him is ridiculous. It was a massive failure by the entire team, both players and coaches.
        Didn't say anything about blaming the game entirely on Dodge. I understand the Giants blew a 21 point lead and let the Eagles back in that game.

        But Dodge IS to blame for the Giants NOT having a shot to go into overtime with them. While I agree they shouldn't have ever been in the position to lose such a 'locked' game, Dodge certainly isn't to blame.

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        • manchild24
          Kyle got fired
          • Nov 2008
          • 5863

          #49
          You're right dont blame the punter. Jackson dropped the ball still had time to pick it up and run around 10 yes 10 defenders who didnt tackle him for the win.

          Plus who's to say if Dodge kicks it out of bounds Vick doenst take the next play to the house like he did verse the Vikings a few years ago.. Shit he already had 130 yards rushing whats 50 more.

          I really want some1 to smash Jackson already. running along the goal line showboating like that and a Giant almost got to him. Cheer now because he's gonna do something stupid one day to cost Philly a big game.

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          • EmpireWF
            Giants in the Super Bowl
            • Mar 2009
            • 24082

            #50
            Originally posted by EmpireWF
            so many to blame

            1. Special Teams coach/Coughlin for not playing for an onside kick
            2. Offense for only being able to put 7 points in the second half
            3. Mario Manningham's fumble
            4. The Punter for kicking it STRAIGHT TO jackson
            5. Defense for letting Vick fuck them up and down the field
            6. On one 4th quarter third down, Eli threw the ball away instead of taking a sack...if he takes the sack, they go to OT

            blame goes all around


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            • NAHSTE
              Probably owns the site
              • Feb 2009
              • 22233

              #51
              Originally posted by Gonzo
              Actually, it is Dodge's fault the Giants weren't in OT with a possible chance of winning the game. While I'm not short-sighted enough to blame everything on Dodge [they blew a 21 point lead for christ's sake], I'm not going to sit there and pat him on the back, "Tough game bud, you've been doing great all year, I'll give you a pass."

              Dodge is a large reason as to why the Giants woke up with another loss rather than a win; he's not the sole reason, and he's obviously not the only one.
              There are so many people who fucked up though. Just because it happened on the last play doesn't mean it was the biggest fuck up. Eli threw two incomplete passes when trying to grind the clock, Deion Grant wiffed on a sack, Kenny Phillips wiffed on Celek to spring him for 60 ... Nobody thought to spy Vick inside the 10 on 3rd down, so he waltzed into the end zone behind a wall of blockers ... Nobody on the punt coverage team came anywhere close to Jackson (except ironically, the punter), etc.

              Not covering an onside kick with 7-minutes left and a two touchdown lead was probably worse than Dodge failing to punt it out of bounds. Nobody was anywhere near the front line.

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              • mgoblue2290
                Posts too much
                • Feb 2009
                • 7174

                #52
                Originally posted by Gonzo
                Didn't say anything about blaming the game entirely on Dodge. I understand the Giants blew a 21 point lead and let the Eagles back in that game.

                But Dodge IS to blame for the Giants NOT having a shot to go into overtime with them. While I agree they shouldn't have ever been in the position to lose such a 'locked' game, Dodge certainly isn't to blame.
                No he isn't to blame. Check out DJ Rhude's post. What kind of idiot coach forces his team to pass with 55 seconds left? Your team just allowed 21 straight points, is completely shell shocked, and has absolutely no momentum. You do not try and run pass plays, period. You run the ball, kill the clock and hope to win the toss. So what if the G-Men had some timeouts left, Coughlin has to have better situational awareness in that situation.

                Another big deal here is why even put the game on your punter if you know he is complete shit. Coughlin failed here as a coach, like Schwartz failed against the Jets.

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                • Gonzo
                  Colts Supremicist
                  • Dec 2008
                  • 5325

                  #53
                  Originally posted by manchild24
                  You're right dont blame the punter. Jackson dropped the ball still had time to pick it up and run around 10 yes 10 defenders who didnt tackle him for the win.

                  Plus who's to say if Dodge kicks it out of bounds Vick doenst take the next play to the house like he did verse the Vikings a few years ago.. Shit he already had 130 yards rushing whats 50 more.

                  I really want some1 to smash Jackson already. running along the goal line showboating like that and a Giant almost got to him. Cheer now because he's gonna do something stupid one day to cost Philly a big game.
                  Who's to say the Giants don't win that game if Dodge does kick it out of bounds? Anybody can play the what-if game, keep that out of here.

                  I just don't understand how anybody can NOT blame Dodge. He has a very simple duty as far as NFL athletes go - for him to not fulfill such a simple part of his job is absolutely inexcusable.

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                  • Blade
                    Walking SAM site
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 3739

                    #54
                    Just don't blame THIS Matt Dodge:

                    Moments after NY Giants punter Matt Dodge stupidly kicked away the game yesterday ... tons of angry fans went to Twitter hoping to unload on Dodge's account -- but they found the WRONG Matt Dodge.

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                    • Gonzo
                      Colts Supremicist
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 5325

                      #55
                      Originally posted by White Vick
                      No he isn't to blame. Check out DJ Rhude's post. What kind of idiot coach forces his team to pass with 55 seconds left? Your team just allowed 21 straight points, is completely shell shocked, and has absolutely no momentum. You do not try and run pass plays, period. You run the ball, kill the clock and hope to win the toss. So what if the G-Men had some timeouts left, Coughlin has to have better situational awareness in that situation.

                      Another big deal here is why even put the game on your punter if you know he is complete shit. Coughlin failed here as a coach, like Schwartz failed against the Jets.
                      Are you kidding me, lol? Yes, he is to blame. Dodge has nothing to do with Coughlin's decisions to pass the ball with 55 seconds left. Dodge doesn't play defense, he didn't let the Eagles back in the game after a 21 point deficit.

                      All Dodge did was punt to one of the most dangerous return men in the NFL today with 8 seconds left, instead of kicking it out of bounds like he was asked to.

                      Yes, Dodge doesn't deserve all the blame. He just deserves a portion.

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                      • NAHSTE
                        Probably owns the site
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 22233

                        #56
                        Merged because everyone is repeating themselves in each thread, and we don't need two topics devoted to a punter.

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                        • Deviant
                          Yes, please.
                          • Nov 2008
                          • 2861

                          #57
                          Originally posted by Gonzo
                          Didn't say anything about blaming the game entirely on Dodge. I understand the Giants blew a 21 point lead and let the Eagles back in that game.

                          But Dodge IS to blame for the Giants NOT having a shot to go into overtime with them. While I agree they shouldn't have ever been in the position to lose such a 'locked' game, Dodge certainly isn't to blame.
                          THANK YOU. Someone finally fucking gets it.


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                          • Gonzo
                            Colts Supremicist
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 5325

                            #58
                            Originally posted by Deviant
                            THANK YOU. Someone finally fucking gets it.
                            I feel like a lonely man walking down a lonely road stuck with my own thoughts.

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                            • NAHSTE
                              Probably owns the site
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 22233

                              #59
                              To blame Dodge is to ignore the fact that nobody came close to tackling Jackson, and he ran straight up the middle. 5 guys ran to the right, and 5 guys ran to the left ... I can see if Jackson made someone miss, but all he did was drop the ball, stand up, and make one cut up field. He ran straight up the middle and only had the punter to beat.

                              Dodge fucked up, but the coverage unit should be more disciplined.

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                              • mgoblue2290
                                Posts too much
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 7174

                                #60
                                Originally posted by Gonzo
                                I feel like a lonely man walking down a lonely road stuck with my own thoughts.
                                I rarely, if ever groan a post, but that post was Elton John gay.

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