Josh Freeman vs. Mark Sanchez

[Mogriffjr]

Since you want stats...

20/31, 184yds, INT- PIT (LOSS)
25/43, 219yds, TD- NOR (LOSS)
11/22, 189yds, 2TD's, 2INT's- ATL (LOSS)
17/37, 162yds, TD- BAL (LOSS)
19/38, 181yds, TD, INT- ATL (LOSS)
21/26, 255yds, 2TD's- NOR (WIN)

113/197 (57%), 1190yds, 7TD's, 4INT's

Let's keep it funky BB, the reason why Freeman and the Bucs didn't get the respect they coulda had was because they beat the shit teams, lost to the teams that would have gained them big time respect to. Their best win was a Week 17 game against the bucs, and this was Freeman's best game against top notch defenses/teams. I'm not sure what the Aints were doing that game but I'm sure they clinched a spot in the playoffs (yeah they rested some of their starters that game). So really you say he gets no respect...what did he do when they played the better teams on that schedule? Nothing..and was pretty fucking average at that in all those game. Maybe if the Bucs/Freeman stepped it against those teams above, maybe ya boy would get more respect. He's good and all but take a chill pill, he ain't there yet and unlike Sanchez, he didn't stepped up his play against the top notch defenses/teams in the game.

[Mogriffjr]

We keep talking this playoff shit as if he is a 10 year veteran. Ill pose this question to you, if Freeman was a Jet would he had made the playoffs? If Sanchez was a Buc would he had made the playoffs? I never said Freeman played on a better team. The Jets didnt make the playoffs because of him. This ridiculous saying Trent Dilfer was an above avg QB because he has a SB ring.

I guess Rodgers wasnt shit before this season because he didnt win a playoff game. Bunch of contradicting haters. Freeman is a better QB and it isnt close, playoffs be damned.

judging by how he did against the better teams on his schedule + our OC, nope, we woulda been 8-8 at best.

[shag773]

We keep talking this playoff shit as if he is a 10 year veteran. Ill pose this question to you, if Freeman was a Jet would he had made the playoffs? If Sanchez was a Buc would he had made the playoffs? I never said Freeman played on a better team. The Jets didnt make the playoffs because of him. This ridiculous saying Trent Dilfer was an above avg QB because he has a SB ring.

I guess Rodgers wasnt shit before this season because he didnt win a playoff game. Bunch of contradicting haters. Freeman is a better QB and it isnt close, playoffs be damned.

If Freeman was a Jet, yes they make the playoffs and get bounced by the Pats in the divisional round. If Sanchez was a Buc, they would have a playoff birth and a win wildcard weekend. I say this because Sanchez has played his best ball under pressure, while Freeman has played his best ball vs the Panthers.

[Juggernaut]

If Freeman was a Jet, yes they make the playoffs and get bounced by the Pats in the divisional round. If Sanchez was a Buc, they would have a playoff birth and a win wildcard weekend. I say this because Sanchez has played his best ball under pressure, while Freeman has played his best ball vs the Panthers.

:mjpopcorn: waits for BB to enter the thread.

[bucky]

if Freeman was a Jet would he had made the playoffs?

Possibly but I wouldn't count on it. I'll wait for Freeman to start beating some good teams before I start thinking of him as a playoff quality QB.

If Sanchez was a Buc would he had made the playoffs?

Possibly, Sanchez has beaten some good playoff teams already.

I guess Rodgers wasnt shit before this season because he didnt win a playoff game. Bunch of contradicting haters. Freeman is a better QB and it isnt close, playoffs be damned.

Rodgers basically has had 3 4000 yard seasons in a row. At times, almost all season, he has shouldered the offensive load, lacking a running game. He has always been in a passing offense that requires him to be playing at a high level. Don't be comparing Freeman to Rodgers until Freeman starts showing he can beat good teams in the regular season, shoulder the offensive load, and win playoff games against high caliber playoff teams.

Freeman has shown potential, but that's about it. Come back when he does something significant.

[Atlas]

You Freeman haters are insane... He has absolutely NO skill players on his team that rival anything the Jets have, not to mention the far superior defense that has bailed him out of games, NOT TO MENTION the fucking defensive guru fatshit genius he has for a coach... But yea, if there places were swapped, Sanchez would have taken the Bucs to the NFC CG and the Jets would have missed the playoffs... I swear to God some of you are legally retarded...

[Juggernaut]

At the end of the day, I'm happy Sanchize is a Jet and Freeman is a Buc. Both players are on the same tier, but I'd be more comfortable with Sanchize at the helm.

[Colonel Angus]

Smh at another Josh Freeman thread...

[Woy]

Smh at another Josh Freeman thread...

Seriously. He's not relevant for threads dedicated to him yet.

[BigBucs]

You Freeman haters are insane... He has absolutely NO skill players on his team that rival anything the Jets have, not to mention the far superior defense that has bailed him out of games, NOT TO MENTION the fucking defensive guru fatshit genius he has for a coach... But yea, if there places were swapped, Sanchez would have taken the Bucs to the NFC CG and the Jets would have missed the playoffs... I swear to God some of you are legally retarded...

Really. I cant believe the shit I am reading. I done with this shit. It makes 0 sense. I'm being trolled harder than anyone in the history of VSN. Its the only explanation. They cant seriously be this dense. They are finding every reason not to give Freeman credit while coming up with asinine reasons to credit Sanchez while omitting or marginalizing relevant information like supporting cast, coaching staff, veterans etc... Im mad I allowed it. It is what it is. WTF am I talking about? This is VSN, they are that stupid.

[BroncoBlue]

Shanchez is Mexican American that makes him way better!

[Mogriffjr]

Really. I cant believe the shit I am reading. I done with this shit. It makes 0 sense. I'm being trolled harder than anyone in the history of VSN. Its the only explanation. They cant seriously be this dense. They are finding every reason not to give Freeman credit while coming up with asinine reasons to credit Sanchez while omitting or marginalizing relevant information like supporting cast, coaching staff, veterans etc... Im mad I allowed it. It is what it is. WTF am I talking about? This is VSN, they are that stupid.

But when I mentioned the Jets OC being inept, you said I was making excuses right? can't have it both ways...how about ya boy being inept playing good/decent teams on the schedule? At least Sanchez wasn't a liability against the top teams in the NFL.

[BigBucs]

But when I mentioned the Jets OC being inept, you said I was making excuses right? can't have it both ways...how about ya boy being inept playing good/decent teams on the schedule? At least Sanchez wasn't a liability against the top teams in the NFL.

I actually compared you OC to ours. You have 0 idea what he fuck you are talking about. If anything Freeman was the only constant in those games.If you actually seen some Bucs games you would know that but I forgot your pulling up his stats makes you an expert. I got to see that bum every other week. You may have seen Freeman play twice even though I doubt that. Freeman wasnt a liability in any game this season.

[shag773]

I think the problem is we do not have the proper perspective. While most of us missed his masterful performances vs the Panthers, Browns, Bengals, and Arizona, we did catch his national TV games where he looked pedestrian @ home against New Orleans, Atlanta, Pitt, and the end of the Lions game.

Last time we saw Sanchez, he was leading a furious comback vs the Steelers that came up just short after coming off a great game in New England.

[Mogriffjr]

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Since you want stats...

20/31, 184yds, INT- PIT (LOSS)
25/43, 219yds, TD- NOR (LOSS)
11/22, 189yds, 2TD's, 2INT's- ATL (LOSS)
17/37, 162yds, TD- BAL (LOSS)
19/38, 181yds, TD, INT- ATL (LOSS)
21/26, 255yds, 2TD's- NOR (WIN)

113/197 (57%), 1190yds, 7TD's, 4INT's

Just in case you missed how he performed against the best teams on the schedule.

Again why would I want Freeman when he can't even perform decent against the better teams in the league? I saw Sanchez and I KNOW what he's done against the better teams in the league (NE, PITT, IND)

1 good game out of 6 against the top teams, BB I can divide...that's like 1 every let's say 6, one of them shits was due (last game against the Aints).

One was AAHH (NO game part 1), the others were real wack, that's a one good game out of a 6 game average...and that's so lame.

Switch up your argument because it's garbage, cuz you can't kick knowledge.