The 2011 Tim Tebow Tracking Thread

[BroncoBlue]

Pretty hard fall for Tebow if he's moved behind Quinn on the Depth Chart b/c Brady Quinn couldn't hit a bull in the ass at 5 paces! :laugh: Somebody that inaccurate will never make it in the NFL (Quinn). Tebow's not accurate either...hmmm...put two & two together...and you get...

And you get a quality 2nd team QB and another who can contribute in many ways!

Both are behind Kyle Orton... You act like Quinn can't be a quality back up in this league and Tebow can't contribute. The funny thing it's almost certain that all three QB's will see action this year, Orton is injury prone Quinn will get some starts and Tebow will probably be utilized in short yardage situations.

It seems like Tebow is taking it a lot like you said above... Like his life is over because Quinn has leaped frogged him. He really needs to look at it from this angle Orton is gone after this year, Quinn isn't the future and if they all play well the Broncos won't be in striking distance of any good QB's in the 2012 Draft. Meaning they probably have some job security next this year...

[BroncoBlue]

Quinn was putting some serious heat on this throws tonight. He ended up 10/16 for 130 yard with a TD and an INT.

The INT was a tipped ball as well. He might have put too much heat on the throw around the goal line, but the receiver should have caught it.

Yup and that defensive player made a hell of a catch! Quinn has defiantly found his grove this year! And like I said earlier he's in line for some starts if Orton stays true to form and doesn't stay healthy. I'm a Broncos fan first and Tebow fan second, so I'm really excited Quinn is playing well and at the same time a little disappointed in how Tebow has handled the pressure.

[BroncoBlue]

I'm glad to hear it. I thought he was a can't miss in the Draft, but I eventually had to give up on him in Cleveland when every pass was way off the mark & Jaworski & Steve Young said accuracy couldn't be learned b/c it was something you were born with. ESPN's highlights only showed Tebow's downs:yell:

Don't listen to those blow hards they are probably the same guys that say "winning is an attribute that can't be taught."

LOL REALLY, that's just SAD!?!?!? He threw two passes (one a screen) and ran the ball once (seven yard gain) for god's sake... LOL ESPN is manufacturing Tebow haters every game!

[BroncoBlue]

Yeah, me too. I expected him to carry the same class he always does through it all even if I didn't think he would make it as a long-time star at starter. Don't get me wrong, I do think he can contribute as a backup. The problem is he was a 1st rd pick making 1st rd money so you have to get a quality starter eventually.

There is an old saying that you learn far more about a man's true character during adversity than when things are good. Let's hope for the sake of the kids & others looking up to him so much that he regains his composure quickly.

IMO Orton gets a bad wrap everywhere he goes - in Chicago all he did was win - in Denver, he's got good stats but losing record. The QB position is huge but he is only one player out of 22 offensive & defensive starters. Example: I was a big Broncos fan in '80s & '90s (Saints sucked really bad back then) when Elway was QB. Elway was great but the talent around him was only above average in their 1st 3 SuperBowls. They were crushed (along w/ my spirits) in those 3 Superbowls by great all-around teams. They said he couldn't win the big one. Then Shannahan built a SuperBowl-caliber team around him (w/ good run gm & defense) & Elway won back-to-back SBs. My point is surround Orton w/ talent and let him mature mentally like Drew Brees & others had to do & we might find that he becomes a winner & a leader.

I'll defiantly agree Tebow has NOT handled the pressure well. He seems to be too concerned with the "Tebow Image." It's like Bruce Banner trying to repress the HULK, it's OK to be pissed off and emotional! His publicist/agent needs to realize I'll still buy his shit even if he's not the golden boy, it's the MUTHA FUCKIN NFL for god's sake; I want bone crushing hit's, TD's and WINS... Tebow wasn't "first round quality" and it's not his fault McDaniels took him there. Tebow has been shouldered with McDumbass' mistakes the sec he was drafted... It's not his fault McD was a HORRIBLE talent evaluator. However, IMHO that doesn't mean Tebow can't succeed in the NFL.

Exactly all he did is WIN in Chicago and LOSE in Denver... He's a lot fun to watch stat wise with a WR like Marshall and Lloyd! Orton is a gamer and will manage the offense well, but if you can't stay healthy you can't be a good QB in this league... A rookie Right Tackle (who's natual potition is guard) will spell doom and gloom for the poor lead footed QB this year. There is a reason why Orton won't be a Denver Bronco next year and No one wanted to trade for him this year...

[Bear Pand]

Which one of Tebow's passes looked better last night.

Should I start a poll?

I feel bad for dude though, I bet he wishes he didn't have to deal with all the hype and could just put his head down and try to learn.

[FirstTimer]

Brady Quinn>>>>Gawd.

[Rayman]

Brady Quinn>>>>Gawd.

[Prodigal Son]

Were you checking ESPN to make sure Roethlisberger didn't rape another girl?

[EmpireWF]

Were you checking ESPN to make sure Roethlisberger didn't rape another girl?

As long as Big Ben keeps playing and taking the Steelers deep into the playoffs, I don't think jake cares if he rapes his entire trailer park.

[Hasselbeck]

Updated the thread title for accuracy

[Irish]

NFL just got sexier.

[Diivox]

Were you checking ESPN to make sure Roethlisberger didn't rape another girl?

He's a MARRIED MAN. totally different guy.

totally.

[BroncoBlue]

Orton is through in Denver no matter what... He will either leave in a trade or via free agency in the off season. Elway & friends know this and are giving Quinn a good look to see if he's worth giving a contract next year. Tebow's not finished in Denver until they draft another young QB, which probably won't be for a while seeing as how they have way too many holes to fill. I think Tebow will have this year, next off season and 2012's training camp before the organization gives up on him.

He's acting like a snivelling brat right now. Hard times will show his TRUE character (and it's not looking too good right now - kinda like when the Crimson Tide spanked that ass in '09 :asskicking.

Tebow is defiantly not acting like that... I don't know what QB you're following.

[steeljake]

As long as Big Ben keeps playing and taking the Steelers deep into the playoffs, I don't think jake cares if he rapes his entire trailer park.

allegedly rapes... get it right...

[BroncoBlue]

I think you mean definitely not defiantly (not being a smartass it's just that's where some confusion's coming in). Well, you being in Denver, I'm sure you're getting far more news on Tebow than I am. But what I heard was he was whining the other day about his dream being ripped from him, etc & bitchin about Merrill Hodge doing his job (Just like Vince Young did). (FWIW, I do remember Hodge saying at the '04? draft that Aaron Rodgers would never make in the NFL b/c he was very inaccurate down the field at Cal - Duhhhhh). From what I'm seeing w/ limited info is Tebow's certainly not acting like a grown man about it. I didn't see the gm last nite but you did say the following:


Joe Montana, Elway, etc. never whined about criticism they just shut the critics' mouths with their play on the field & left no doubt. According to the critics, Elway supposedly couldn't win a SuperBowl after the first 3 but he never said a word in public that I remember.

BTW, I've had Tebow Fatigue since '07 so you have to understand where I'm coming from alot of the time (the yr he won the Heisman despite an 8-4 record. They still give the man credit for CHRIS LEAK'S '06 National Championship despite only playing a few plays a gm for Christ's sake!). If you think the national hype on Tebow in college was bad, you should have heard it here in SEC country where college football is all the talk 365 days a year (especially Alabama). I cringed when McDaniels screwed up & drafted him in the 1st round.

I have been saying, since before the draft, that Tebow is the ultimate experiment to see if having "It" is all it takes to be a great NFL QB. With as much "It" as he had in college, it really may be all you need. Jury's out & will be for awhile but he was dealt a really tough hand to overcome b/c of all the hype about everything he does as you said in another post.

Love the old Bronco's logo in your posts (wish they would go back to the old unis).

Tebow's pretty much said all the right things and hasn't sought out media attention. It's more like the media likes to use Tebow's popularity to make non issues into "Breaking News." Which in turn puts a bad taste in a lot of peoples mouths. Tebow's not ready to be an NFL QB yet, but he's not out there whining and acting like a spoil child. Sure all this media buzz has effected his play, but not him as a person.

I did say that, but all I was trying to convey is that he looked mad/frustrated on the Field last night and it could effect his play.

The Broncos are switching to the Orange uni's next year!

This the quote you are refering to from an article Woody Paige worte for the Denver Post:

"My dream, since I was a young boy, of being a starting quarterback in the NFL seemed to be coming true,"

"Then, I felt like it was grabbed back away. . . ."

http://www.denverpost.com/paige/ci_18621060

Tebow's response:

“I have all the respect in the world for Mr. Paige, but sometimes when you are doing interviews . . . I don’t feel like it was exactly how it came out. I think he’s a great reporter and it’s nothing against him. It just came out not how it was supposed to be. Not how it was meant.”

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ut-of-context/

Merril Hog's comments:

"It's embarrassing to think the Broncos could win with Tebow" . . . "College credentials do not translate to NFL . . . rare rare (sic) speeches do not work! You must poses (sic) a skill set to play! Tebow struggle with accuracy" . . . "That throwing motion he changed. You can't change who u r."

http://www.denverpost.com/paige/ci_18621060

Tebow's response:

"Hey Merril . . . 'ppreciate that."
http://www.denverpost.com/paige/ci_18621060