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  • RosettaStoned
    Throbbing Tebowner
    • Oct 2008
    • 9949

    Originally posted by CrimsonGhost56
    really? you wouldnt be impressed if he beat the likes of AA,Barnett,Monson,Nog,Overeem? i know i sure would be
    Barnett I would.

    Nog is washed up at this point, Monson is meh, AA doesn't have the chin for the HW division, and Overeem is unproven at HW.
    So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.

    -Alan Aragon

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    • Liquidrob
      Izzy is a bum
      • Feb 2009
      • 11785

      Originally posted by CrimsonGhost56
      Robbie Lawler (16-4) vs. Jake Shields (22-4-1)
      if lawler cant knock him out shields will take him down and control him there for the victory but if it stays standing lawler is the clear favorite. tough one to pick
      -Brett Rogers (9-0) vs. Andrei Arlovski (15-6)
      rogers aint doin work here. aa by vicious knockout
      -Nick Diaz (19-7) vs. Scott Smith (15-5)
      fight of the night right here. diaz gonna box him up and knock smith out
      -Kevin Randleman (17-12) vs. Mike Whitehead (23-6)
      big fan of randleman but hes aging and doesnt have the same KO power.whitehead will control the fight and win via decision, plus i have his flaming skull affliction tee so i have to pick him
      -Joe Riggs (29-10) vs. Phil Baroni (13-10)
      cant pick against the best eva, the NYBA. has looked great with a new dedication since dropping the weight. someone is getting knocked out, im thinking its gonna be riggs.


      Mike Brown 21-4-0 Vs. Urijah Faber 22-2-0
      Jose Aldo 14-1-0 Vs. Cub Swanson 13-2-0
      Donald Cerrone 9-1-1 Vs. James Krause 10-0-0
      Josh Grispi 10-1-0 Vs. Jens Pulver 22-11-1
      good picks, I just dont see Jake getting lawler down enough times though

      lol @ the whitehead pick
      Last edited by Liquidrob; 05-31-2009, 02:12 PM.
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      • Liquidrob
        Izzy is a bum
        • Feb 2009
        • 11785

        Originally posted by RosettaStoned
        Fedor would be about the only win that would impress me.
        why, he would have 40+ lbs on him

        oh I forgot, it only applies to BJ vs GSP

        EDIT: actually I dont care enough, dont reply, thanks
        Last edited by Liquidrob; 05-31-2009, 02:16 PM.
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        • Liquidrob
          Izzy is a bum
          • Feb 2009
          • 11785

          Trainer Shawn Tompkins thoughts on beating Machida

          "I've got two plans if any of my fighters ever fight Lyoto Machida," Tompkins told Cofield and Cokin on ESPN Radio1100 in Las Vegas. "First of all, I'm going to go to three of the best karate schools in the area, get their best guys, and work that timing. Because that's all it is: He has a different timing than everybody else. And secondly, you need to be a wrestler. You need to be chest-to-chest with that guy, and you need to be either pressing him against the cage or putting him on his back."
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          • Liquidrob
            Izzy is a bum
            • Feb 2009
            • 11785

            In reference to what Tompkins says and someone on the underground brought up, would be interesting to see Randy drop back down and take a shot at Machida

            Randy is really tough when picking his fights when moving up and down in weight, would be an interesting match
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            • Liquidrob
              Izzy is a bum
              • Feb 2009
              • 11785

              Awesome

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              • CrimsonGhost56
                True Blue
                • Feb 2009
                • 5981

                Originally posted by RosettaStoned
                Barnett I would.

                Nog is washed up at this point, Monson is meh, AA doesn't have the chin for the HW division, and Overeem is unproven at HW.
                i wouldnt be so quick to call nog washed up yet. hes only one fight out of holding the (interim) belt. while it does look like age might be catching up with him we need to see how he does against randy. monson might be the hottest (no homo) HW right now with 6 wins in a row with top notch sub skills. AA might have a weak chin but is still a top 5 heavy, and i agree overeem is unproven but that dude is just a monster and a very bad matchup for lesnar.

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                • Liquidrob
                  Izzy is a bum
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 11785

                  Originally posted by CrimsonGhost56
                  i wouldnt be so quick to call nog washed up yet. hes only one fight out of holding the (interim) belt. while it does look like age might be catching up with him we need to see how he does against randy. monson might be the hottest (no homo) HW right now with 6 wins in a row with top notch sub skills. AA might have a weak chin but is still a top 5 heavy, and i agree overeem is unproven but that dude is just a monster and a very bad matchup for lesnar.
                  yeah, said it earlier, Overeem is 1 of the worst match ups for Brock

                  K1 level striking, ADCC level grappling and 1 of the best guillotine chokes in MMA

                  I would put money on Overeem if that fight every happened
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                  • RosettaStoned
                    Throbbing Tebowner
                    • Oct 2008
                    • 9949

                    Originally posted by Liquidrob
                    why, he would have 40+ lbs on him

                    oh I forgot, it only applies to BJ vs GSP

                    EDIT: actually I dont care enough, dont reply, thanks
                    Because Fedor is the best fighter in the world, and 'undefeated'.
                    So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.

                    -Alan Aragon

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                    • Steel Mamba
                      Nasty
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 2549

                      Originally posted by CrimsonGhost56
                      i wouldnt be so quick to call nog washed up yet. hes only one fight out of holding the (interim) belt. while it does look like age might be catching up with him we need to see how he does against randy. monson might be the hottest (no homo) HW right now with 6 wins in a row with top notch sub skills. AA might have a weak chin but is still a top 5 heavy, and i agree overeem is unproven but that dude is just a monster and a very bad matchup for lesnar.
                      I can't remember exactly, but wasn't Nog hurt or sick going into that fight? Unless I'm thinking of someone else I swear he was just getting over staff infection before his fight, so if that's the case we definitely can't start calling Nog washed up.
                      Last edited by Steel Mamba; 05-31-2009, 03:42 PM.

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                      • Bigpapa42
                        Junior Member
                        • Feb 2009
                        • 3185

                        Originally posted by Steel Mamba
                        I can't remember exactly, but wasn't Nog hurt or sick going into that fight? Unless I'm thinking of someone else I swear he was just getting over staff infection before his fight, so if that's the case we definitely can't start calling Nog washed up.
                        Its been mentioned a couple of times by other sources (including Dana White, I believe), but never confirmed by the fighter. But Nog seems like the type to refuse to make excuses. Did hear he was in hospital just a few weeks before the right, but who knows? The next fight should go a long way to showing where Nog really is at this point...

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                        • clovett
                          Junior Member
                          • Mar 2009
                          • 794

                          nog wasnt 100% for the Mir fight

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                          • RosettaStoned
                            Throbbing Tebowner
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 9949

                            I heard he was in the hospital but it was never confirmed. He hasn't looked great lately though.
                            So, metaphorically speaking, our physiology basically has the universe mapped out and you're thinking it needs to be taught addition & subtraction.

                            -Alan Aragon

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                            • Bigpapa42
                              Junior Member
                              • Feb 2009
                              • 3185

                              Originally posted by RosettaStoned
                              I heard he was in the hospital but it was never confirmed. He hasn't looked great lately though.
                              He looked fine against Herring beyond that head kick he took. He didn't look great against Sylvia, but that was mainly due to Sylvia's height, reach, and striking - the same problems he gives to a lot of opponents. And he still won after taking a bit of a beating, which is something Nog has done many many time against many many opponents.

                              I wouldn't be surprised if Nog is on the decline, just based off the batterings he's taken through his career. But I won't assume it unless he fails to impress in his next fight.

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                              • Liquidrob
                                Izzy is a bum
                                • Feb 2009
                                • 11785

                                nog is on the decline, but he can still win big fights, he just is that type of guy, he has taken way to many beatings which is not common for top fighters, its usual big KO's or something like that, but Nogs chin has saved him so many times, but also probably hurt him in the long run because of sustained damage in fights

                                I remember him saying in 1 of the Fedor fights his left side of his body went numb after a big shot, the dude just has no quit in him

                                he could probably sub randy in there next fight and he could still catch the majority of fighters out there, he is just so slick for a HW

                                Nog is the 2nd greatest HW of all time
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