MMA Thread

[clovett]

word is hes fighting Gray Maynard this September (from sherdog)

they are fighting on the next ufn i believe

[clovett]

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[Liquidrob]

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[Warner2BruceTD]

Huerta exemplifies perfectly how MMA is just like Pro Wrestling, even though MMA dorks get their panties twisted when anyone says that.

Huerta was being pushed as a potential latino superstar, and fed guys who they knew he could beat, and racked up one of the longest winning streaks in UFC history. When the bad blood surfaced, Zuffa turned on him, booked him with a guy he would lose to, and proceeded to bury him in dark prelims.

You are what the promoters want you to be.

[Liquidrob]

Huerta exemplifies perfectly how MMA is just like Pro Wrestling, even though MMA dorks get their panties twisted when anyone says that.

Huerta was being pushed as a potential latino superstar, and fed guys who they knew he could beat, and racked up one of the longest winning streaks in UFC history. When the bad blood surfaced, Zuffa turned on him, booked him with a guy he would lose to, and proceeded to bury him in dark prelims.

You are what the promoters want you to be.

Thats why I was telling Rosetta that the UFC runs more like the WWE at this point

[Liquidrob]

On the UG someone brought up Joe as a 'company man' which isnt true, Joe does his own thing, but anyway

We asked him a couple questions, at first he said 'the UFC never tells me what to say about fighters' than someone said 'what about Randy?'

Joe than said the UFC told him not to mention Randy and I asked about 'fighting in Japan' and he said the UFC wouldnt let him mention Pride at the time, asked about Strikeoforce also and he didnt comment, maybe he missed the question, but more than likely he can not mention other promotions

[Steel Mamba]

Huerta exemplifies perfectly how MMA is just like Pro Wrestling, even though MMA dorks get their panties twisted when anyone says that.

Huerta was being pushed as a potential latino superstar, and fed guys who they knew he could beat, and racked up one of the longest winning streaks in UFC history. When the bad blood surfaced, Zuffa turned on him, booked him with a guy he would lose to, and proceeded to bury him in dark prelims.

You are what the promoters want you to be.

How is this like wrestling? Sounds more like boxing to me.

[Kuzzy Powers]

How is this like wrestling? Sounds more like boxing to me.

Its like wrestling bcus they try to push fighters based on marketability. Boxing does similar things to push their stars aswell.

[Steel Mamba]

Its like wrestling bcus they try to push fighters based on marketability. Boxing does similar things to push their stars aswell.

Marketing is marketing, they're still totally different. It's one thing to build a superstar by fabricating his image and character while scripting his wins, vs pitting someone against another fighter who he should in theory be capable of beating.

[RosettaStoned]

Sounds more like boxing than WWE.

[Liquidrob]

Its more like WWE because they control who you fight, in boxing you usually fight who you want to fight, more like a contractor

You dont have no where near the control in WWE/UFC like you do boxing

You think Rich, Chuck, Brock, etc...have the ability to control who they fight like PBF, Oscar, Roy Jones, etc...? No way

Also, you guys are crazy if you dont think the UFC tries to build certain fighters by giving them certain matches

They brought in Tank for Mir and Ken for Rich just to build them up, happens all the time

[Kuzzy Powers]

Marketing is marketing, they're still totally different. It's one thing to build a superstar by fabricating his image and character while scripting his wins, vs pitting someone against another fighter who he should in theory be capable of beating.

Obviously noone is saying the UFC is scripted.

But they are willing to feed cans to fighters to build them up for the crowd if they think they're marketable. Its wrestling-esque. Boxing does similar shit, like I said.. but in boxing theres a lot of negotiating for your own fights. Promoters dont really feed cans to fighters.. they might feed cans to themselves.

[Liquidrob]

Also, thats why Dana got pissed at Cro Cop, he was trying to bring Cro Cop in to build up Cain, but Cro Cop said give me someone else first, he got Al Turk to beat and left

Dana wanted him to beat Al Turk and than try and have him fight Cain or Carwin, but Cro Cop used Dana like he was trying to use him

[Steel Mamba]

Its more like WWE because they control who you fight, in boxing you usually fight who you want to fight, more like a contractor

You dont have no where near the control in WWE/UFC like you do boxing

You think Rich, Chuck, Brock, etc...have the ability to control who they fight like PBF, Oscar, Roy Jones, etc...? No way

Also, you guys are crazy if you dont think the UFC tries to build certain fighters by giving them certain matches

They brought in Tank for Mir and Ken for Rich just to build them up, happens all the time

Absolutely the big stars in the UFC have control over who they fight. We see it happen all the time. Rampage didn't want to fight Machida, he wanted Evans and that's who he got. Cro Cop was given many, many options of fights and he finally chose Al-Turk. Chuck has always been given options, a list of fighters to select from. Guys turn down fights all the time too.

So what the UFC builds stars, why shouldn't they? Who doesn't try to build stars?

[Liquidrob]

Absolutely the big stars in the UFC have control over who they fight. We see it happen all the time. Rampage didn't want to fight Machida, he wanted Evans and that's who he got. Cro Cop was given many, many options of fights and he finally chose Al-Turk. Chuck has always been given options, a list of fighters to select from. Guys turn down fights all the time too.

So what the UFC builds stars, why shouldn't they? Who doesn't try to build stars?

They can say they dont want to fight, if Dana agrees than its cool, if he wants you to fight and you dont, you're fucked, plan and simple

No one is saying they shouldnt, but you guys are saying its not like the WWE and more like boxing and thats not correct

Boxers have way more control, just because some UFC guys can turn down some fights and get different ones doesnt mean they have all this control

Fedor = control, UFC guys = not so much