MMA Thread

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Randy has what, one or two fights at the most left on his contract. He still wants Fedor, badly and that's still an interesting match-up. Are you guys telling me that Randy/Fedor isn't worth talking about either? What's going on here?

I have come to realize that even the 'MMA Fan' cares more about the promotion than the fights

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

basically you said nothing, vitors last fight in the UFC was a split decision loss to Tito for the title but he isnt worthy or in title contention after that?

AA won 3 straight fights and wanted more money, that doesnt mean he is a has been at the time he fought fedor

tim was the most dominant HW for years, lost to randy, beat vera, lost to nog for the title, that is not a has been at the time

So is Cro Cop a UFC has been now he is not? Anderson a pride wash out? Wand? Is guida a strikeofrce/shooto has been?

This isnt 200 and fucking 5 Rob. Why not mention the Bucs stifling defense and the Rams potent offense while youre at it.

AA/Tim/Tito/Vitor NONE of them are contenders get it through your fucking skull. Crop Cop is a has been as well. Wandy is on the verge. Youre too dense to get the point. NONE of these guys are championship level anymore. You dont know WTF youre getting with Affliction on any level outside of Fedor vs Someone.

Noone should be forking over money on second rate fighters on a SHITTY production of a PPV. Ill do with Affliction same as I do most UFC cards and watch em later on when theyre free.

[Steel Mamba]

Whos hating ? Its accurate they are NON contenders. Its a fact.

Even a decent card in a shitty ring with shitty production isnt worth 30-40 bucks 3 weeks removed from UFC100.

Sorry, but UFC 100 didn't even turn out to be a great event. The best fight was Belcher and Akiyama. It's all about the fights, not the production and Afflictions production is actually pretty good IMO. The only thing that needs to improve is the walk-ins, those could be done a little better.

That's not fact.

Fedor/Barnett - both top 10 HWs and P4P great
Babalu/Gegard - top 10 LHW and a potential future star
Vitor/Jorge - Both top 10 MWs, Jorge is on a 9 fight win streak
Yvel/Buentello - Two very talented and exciting fighters. Who wouldn't want to see this matchup?
Gomi was once in that top 10 class, having him start the night off isn't bad at all

Besides UFC 100, please find me another UFC event where that much talent, top 10 talent was on display. Not to mention all of the great matches Affliction will be airing for free on HDNet as well.

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

again, how was AA a non conternder when he fought Fedor after 3 staright wins?

how was Tim a non contender when he just lost a title fight?

how is Vitor a non contender when Dana was just trying to sign him and his last lose before leaving the UFC was a split decision title fight?

Fedor/Barnet is 10X the fight of Brock/Mir

Mousasi is a great up and comer

For the record Wand is like 2-5 in the UFC, OMG he is a loser!

Glass Jaw
Glass Jaw

Vitor = Hype and excitement if he comes out swinging.

Noones arguing Fedor on any point.

I already stated that about Mousasi in the other thread.

Wandy is washed up as well. Only bright side is he never stops swinging.


AGAIN not worth the money.
Telling people there clowns for passing it up is downright stupid.

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Sorry, but UFC 100 didn't even turn out to be a great event. The best fight was Belcher and Akiyama. It's all about the fights, not the production and Afflictions production is actually pretty good IMO. The only thing that needs to improve is the walk-ins, those could be done a little better.

That's not fact.

Fedor/Barnett - both top 10 HWs and P4P great
Babalu/Gegard - top 10 LHW and a potential future star
Vitor/Jorge - Both top 10 MWs, Jorge is on a 9 fight win streak
Yvel/Buentello - Two very talented and exciting fighters. Who wouldn't want to see this matchup?
Gomi was once in that top 10 class, having him start the night off isn't bad at all

Besides UFC 100, please find me another UFC event where that much talent, top 10 talent was on display. Not to mention all of the great matches Affliction will be airing for free on HDNet as well.

Get back to me when you learn to read. Second time you skim a post and go on and on about something that wasnt written.

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This isnt 200 and fucking 5 Rob. Why not mention the Bucs stifling defense and the Rams potent offense while youre at it.

AA/Tim/Tito/Vitor NONE of them are contenders get it through your fucking skull. Crop Cop is a has been as well. Wandy is on the verge. Youre too dense to get the point. NONE of these guys are championship level anymore. You dont know WTF youre getting with Affliction on any level outside of Fedor vs Someone.

Noone should be forking over money on second rate fighters on a SHITTY production of a PPV. Ill do with Affliction same as I do most UFC cards and watch em later on when theyre free.

dude, you are thick, when AA and tim fought Fedor they were still the top HWs in the world, dont rewrite history

When Vitor 'washed out' of the UFC he was a top LHW in the world

Now Fedor/Barnett is the best HW fight you can make

Mousasi is 1 of the best up and comers in the sport and is fighting a very skilled fighter in Babalu

Vitor has won 4 straight fights after a decision loss to Dan, even Dana is trying to sign him

No fight outside of the UFC will ever excite you because how can they be contenders if they dont fight in the UFC for a UFC belt?

[Steel Mamba]

No, Randy/Fedor would be good now or a few years ago, definitely. The problem is that Dana isn't going to let Randy go make Affliction a lot of money. He is going to make sure Randy wants to retire in the UFC. Dana is going to basically use Randy as a way to bump up the future faces of the division. He'll put him in fights against guys that Randy doesn't match up well against and by the time his contract is up, Randy will be a nearly 50 year old guy who would only be laughed at if he fought Fedor.

Randy is a great fighter, make no doubt about that, but to say he will be a draw in around 2 years is a stretch, especially if he gets beat in his last few fights in the UFC.

How is he going to do that if Randy only has one or two fights left and we already know his next matchup. So, after that Dana only has one opportunity left to do this. Randy will be 46 or 47 years old at that point, which for him I'm really not even going to hold against him. Randy has yet to look his age in the cage.

[JeremyHight]

Sorry, but UFC 100 didn't even turn out to be a great event. The best fight was Belcher and Akiyama. It's all about the fights, not the production and Afflictions production is actually pretty good IMO. The only thing that needs to improve is the walk-ins, those could be done a little better.

That's not fact.

Fedor/Barnett - both top 10 HWs and P4P great
Babalu/Gegard - top 10 LHW and a potential future star
Vitor/Jorge - Both top 10 MWs, Jorge is on a 9 fight win streak
Yvel/Buentello - Two very talented and exciting fighters. Who wouldn't want to see this matchup?
Gomi was once in that top 10 class, having him start the night off isn't bad at all

Besides UFC 100, please find me another UFC event where that much talent, top 10 talent was on display. Not to mention all of the great matches Affliction will be airing for free on HDNet as well.

The sad thing is, you just listed 9 guys no one really knows outside of hardcore MMA fans and all of those fights are being done in a ring, which a lot of fans do not care for, especially after being introduced to the sport when it is done in a cage.

I repeat, Affliction has great cards, but they are absolutely ruined with poor marketing and the use of a ring. I'd rather watch a TUF finale over a match between two highly skilled guys that I don't know and there are many, many fans who agree with me, especially if you put it in a ring instead of a cage.

I hope Affliction does well, but if they want to stay around, they are going to need to make some drastic changes.

[Steel Mamba]

Get back to me when you learn to read. Second time you skim a post and go on and on about something that wasnt written.

You said they're noncontenders and I proved you wrong. What do you want me to reread?

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Glass Jaw
Glass Jaw

Vitor = Hype and excitement if he comes out swinging.

Noones arguing Fedor on any point.

I already stated that about Mousasi in the other thread.

Wandy is washed up as well. Only bright side is he never stops swinging.


AGAIN not worth the money.
Telling people there clowns for passing it up is downright stupid.

lol, why do you keep brining up that they have glass jaws like that has anything to do with there ranking and what they were in the HW division?

you are making little sense with these statements

fact is you will never be excited about a non UFC card because you only think the contenders are in the UFC and fight for UFC belts

[JeremyHight]

How is he going to do that if Randy only has one or two fights left and we already know his next matchup. So, after that Dana only has one opportunity left to do this. Randy will be 46 or 47 years old at that point, which for him I'm really not even going to hold against him. Randy has yet to look his age in the cage.

Randy has 1 more fight left after UFC 102, which is a little over a month away. If he gets another this year, he will be set up to be 47 and potentially leaving the UFC with 3 straight losses (although I don't see him losing against Nog). He still has plenty of time to fall out of the top of the division.

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I'd rather watch a TUF finale over a match between two highly skilled guys that I don't know and there are many, many fans who agree with me, especially if you put it in a ring instead of a cage.

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That quote puts things into perspective. You're arguing with someone whos talking about casual fans because he is one.

[JeremyHight]

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What? Oh, that's right, having some emotional attachment to fighters and cheering on certain guys is silly. I hate to break this to you, but people want to see fighters they know. Just throwing two people in a fight that no one knows isn't a draw. But give one of those people a personality and a way for people to get to know them and all of a sudden, people care!

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Hendo, Gina and Cyborg at the ESPYs, Cyborg looks a little uncomfortable