The General Wrestling Thread

[dave]

Dragon Gate is where its at in Japan these days (and the US, to be honest). The tv show is very easy to find online, as are the ppv's. I have a website I can link if anyone wants it, but right now I'm posting from my phone.

I wouldn't mind that link, Warner.

[IamMedellin]

Edge-mire..

BEST HEEL in the Business

but a 2nd rate babyface....

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Impact this week wasn't the worst thing I've ever seen...I'm shocked.

[Warner2BruceTD]

Impact this week wasn't the worst thing I've ever seen...I'm shocked.

I gave up already.

If what i'm hearing actually goes down, it's about to get real stupid in Orlando.

[IamMedellin]

I gave up already.

If what i'm hearing actually goes down, it's about to get real stupid in Orlando.

What'ja hear?

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

I gave up already.

If what i'm hearing actually goes down, it's about to get real stupid in Orlando.

PM me or post here...I have no issue with reading spoilers ahead of time.

btw though, you can see Hogan/Bish booking all over the place. No one wins clean...EVER. The small package is as close to clean as you get.

btw - was looking at TNA's ratings...second verse...same as the first. Still getting roughly the same on average. Slightly higher peaks, but...

[Warner2BruceTD]

btw - was looking at TNA's ratings...second verse...same as the first. Still getting roughly the same on average. Slightly higher peaks, but...

That's 'cuz these guys aren't stars. Brother.

Like you said, I dont see anyone getting put over strong.

The last time TNA really got behind someone was Samoa Joe, and the Joe/Angle feud did record business for them. Then they booked Joe into a crybaby, and he made the "I tripped over bad booking" comment. So they booked him as a flesh eating Mike Tyson + 100lbs of flab, and Joe just stopped giving a shit.

They blew it and the only way to get it back would be to book him as an absolute monster, let him annihilate everyone, have him never speak, and just make him a killer. You know, HOW HE GOT OVER TO BEGIN WITH. But it's probably too late anyway, he's been booked into worthlessness.

Same for Abyss, who was made and re-made too many times. Nobody takes him seriously anymore.

AJ is played out as well, the goofy sidekick gimmick killed him IMO. This mini Nature Boy thing wont work, because it makes him look second rate. He should be portrayed AT Flair's level, not below. Could you ever see WWE pulling that shit? Could you imagine Flair coming back, and doing a gimmick where he teaches a guy like Punk or Orton or Jericho "how to be a star"? That's the same as telling everyone AJ STYLES IS NOT A STAR. Why on earth would you do that???!!! Then they wonder why guys don't draw.

And why do I feel like I have typed this 1,000 times????

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

So, whats going down in the next few weeks at TNA? Do tell.

Everything you said there is exactly how I feel.

I couldn't give another fuck for really anybody in the company...other than the Pope...love me some Pope.

[FedEx227]

That's 'cuz these guys aren't stars. Brother.

Like you said, I dont see anyone getting put over strong.

The last time TNA really got behind someone was Samoa Joe, and the Joe/Angle feud did record business for them. Then they booked Joe into a crybaby, and he made the "I tripped over bad booking" comment. So they booked him as a flesh eating Mike Tyson + 100lbs of flab, and Joe just stopped giving a shit.

They blew it and the only way to get it back would be to book him as an absolute monster, let him annihilate everyone, have him never speak, and just make him a killer. You know, HOW HE GOT OVER TO BEGIN WITH. But it's probably too late anyway, he's been booked into worthlessness.

Same for Abyss, who was made and re-made too many times. Nobody takes him seriously anymore.

AJ is played out as well, the goofy sidekick gimmick killed him IMO. This mini Nature Boy thing wont work, because it makes him look second rate. He should be portrayed AT Flair's level, not below. Could you ever see WWE pulling that shit? Could you imagine Flair coming back, and doing a gimmick where he teaches a guy like Punk or Orton or Jericho "how to be a star"? That's the same as telling everyone AJ STYLES IS NOT A STAR. Why on earth would you do that???!!! Then they wonder why guys don't draw.

And why do I feel like I have typed this 1,000 times????

Because TNA has been in a constantly repeating, poorly booked flux since 2006. I remember I was a regular TNA watcher around the Joe/Angle feud, that thing was hot, built up perfectly... then just completely destroyed within 2-3 months and I've barely watched their show since then.

[JayDizzle]

Edge-mire..

BEST HEEL in the Business

but a 2nd rate babyface....

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwQ3Hfs9oxg"]RIP Eddie[/ame]

Agreed.

But in order to become "the BEST HEEL in the Business," Edge had start off as a babyface, get screwed (figuratively and literally), and work his way into the title picture by being an utter bastard.

I would argue that either he or Orton are 1A and 1B as far as Heels that work due to genuine hate directed towards them by the Faces they play off from.

I.E., Before the reworked No Mercy PPV when Orton attacked Cena's Dad AND the Edge/Matt Hardy feud when Hardy got rehired.

[EmpireWF]

The triple threat tag title match tonight is elimination rules.

YAY~!

[Kuzzy Powers]

Well.. looks like they're definitely setting up HHH-HBK @ WM. And TBH.. it'd actually be relatively fresh. I like it.

[IamMedellin]

so the Big show's new gimmick is the ex girlfriend

[BazookaJoe5]

Well.. looks like they're definitely setting up HHH-HBK @ WM. And TBH.. it'd actually be relatively fresh. I like it.

It also looks like HBK is going to be the heel. Which is definitely new. He hasn't been a heel in what...a long time...

[JayDizzle]

Ultimo > Miz?