The General Wrestling Thread
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While the match was aight, the entrance that Rhodes had coming to the ring was awesome.
Normally, you expect wrestlers to have full-on tunnel vision when performing (for obvious reasons being that plus entrances, most matches last 10 minutes at most on TV) but to have Rhodes turn towards the stage AND THEN the stage's monitors turn into a GINORMOUS MIRROR?
Great stuff.
If he does this on SmackDown, I may have to watch more.Comment
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While the match was aight, the entrance that Rhodes had coming to the ring was awesome.
Normally, you expect wrestlers to have full-on tunnel vision when performing (for obvious reasons being that plus entrances, most matches last 10 minutes at most on TV) but to have Rhodes turn towards the stage AND THEN the stage's monitors turn into a GINORMOUS MIRROR?
Great stuff.
If he does this on SmackDown, I may have to watch more.Comment
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Originally Posted by Eric Bischoff
On the heels of the big “youth push” in WWE during the past several weeks, here are some facts from this week in the business:
Raw’s demographic ratings among males 18-34 and 18-49 were the lowest in seven weeks.
Raw scored a 1.86 rating among males 18-34, which was down from a 2.03 rating last week.
Now one could suggest that McMahon is insane enough to be intentionally misleading Wall Street with excuses that are not substantiated by financials that wouldn’t hold up under either SEC or Sarbanes Oxley Act 404 scrutiny, or maybe that he has no idea what he’s talking about despite the massive success of his business model.
Or one could recognize the direct connect between what TV ratings, PPV buy rates, and ticket sales have proven time and time again, as well as what legitimate focus groups conducted by credible media companies in the business of such have clearly identified: the TV audience (including 18-34 males) rate with ESTABLISHED (and yes older) stars!”
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I had no clue Luke Gallows was Festus.
Just found out recently.My Twitch video link: http://www.twitch.tv/dave374000
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CM Punk >>>>
"Sometimes I just want to be with my family and watch movie and eat some popcorn. But when I step on the mat I know there is no other place I'd rather be." - Marcelo GarciaComment
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Bischoff is lost. Instead of tossing out an insignificant 7-week sample size from the company that could lose 50% of their audience and still be kicking his ass, why doesnt he flaunt those disturbing numbers TNA has sported since he took over with his geriatric "stars"?
Besides, I had no idea the WWE was undergomg some sort of youth movement the last two months. Sheamus has been getting pushed for much longer than that, and we've seen start/stop pushes for Miz, Bourne, Kingston, McIntyre, and a few others. Otherwise, it's still Cena, Orton, Mysterio, Kane, Undertaker, Punk, et al on top.
The wrestling business can not sustain inself unless you constantly are working towards building new stars. To argue otherwise is just really fucking ignorant, but we're dealing with a guy who ran the company with the best resources in the history of the wrestling business, and still managed to run it into the ground in roughly 5 years.Comment
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Bischoff is lost. Instead of tossing out an insignificant 7-week sample size from the company that could lose 50% of their audience and still be kicking his ass, why doesnt he flaunt those disturbing numbers TNA has sported since he took over with his geriatric "stars"?
Besides, I had no idea the WWE was undergomg some sort of youth movement the last two months. Sheamus has been getting pushed for much longer than that, and we've seen start/stop pushes for Miz, Bourne, Kingston, McIntyre, and a few others. Otherwise, it's still Cena, Orton, Mysterio, Kane, Undertaker, Punk, et al on top.
The wrestling business can not sustain inself unless you constantly are working towards building new stars. To argue otherwise is just really fucking ignorant, but we're dealing with a guy who ran the company with the best resources in the history of the wrestling business, and still managed to run it into the ground in roughly 5 years.Comment
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I fully believe that the WWE would be perfectly content with getting their 3-somethings every week, having 95% of the market share of the business, with things going exactly the way they are for the rest of its life. They promote a brand, the WWE brand, not the talent so much anymore.
The TV ratings mean virtually nothing, because they don't get any advo money anymore. And you are spot on with the prmotion of the brand > induvidual talent.Comment
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The only thing they should be unhappy with is the rapidly dropping domestic PPV numbers. But to me, that's just cyclical and wrestling as a whole is in a clear downcycle.
The TV ratings mean virtually nothing, because they don't get any advo money anymore. And you are spot on with the prmotion of the brand > induvidual talent.
The thing is this though...there needs to be a social-musical revolution...but this country is devoid of that right now. I mean, like Nirvana and the Seattle scene coming in and kicking the music industry in the balls, Paul Heyman, seeing this social trend, and ECW kicked the wrestling world in the balls. WCW raised their game with the nWo angle, and you got a new big boom period in wrestling, much like there was a big musical upturn as well as a bit of a social revolution. Same thing needs to happen...this country for most of the 1900's and into the 2000's saw social change and musical revolution go hand in hand, and most recently, in wrestling (a form of entertainment), saw a change in its foreseeable forecast.
The constant in wrestling...the WWE won't be the force to change the business...they never will. They will simply adapt to their surroundings.
So, if a wrestling renaissance is to happen in regards to quality, we are relying on TNA for the foreseeable future and that is sad.Comment
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Heyman saw the impact of MMA long before anyone else in the WWE did (where Vince is still in denial) and wanted to take the ECW brand in that direction before it became obvious that he had no real power and he quit. Kurt Angle, Santino Marella, Kozlov, and CM Punk were going to be pushed as bad ass shooters (we saw this early with Angle & Punk), and Heyman was going to use the older hardcore guys to put them over and change the direction.
I don't know if it would have worked, but shit, at least it was something different. It worked short term in TNA with the Angle/Joe feud, that's for sure.Comment
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reminds me of a Heyman quote, regarding his proposed ending to the ECW December to Dismember EC match
My opinion was to start the chamber off with the Big Show saying: "I'm a seven foot tall, 500lb giant, I'm gonna mow through every one of you."
And the first to take him on would be Punk. Playing to the fact that UFC is so hot and in the public consciousness, Punk chokes out Big Show in the first round of the Elimination Chamber, four-and-a-half minutes in, and now the champion is out.
You know for a fact, before any two contenders lock up, I'm getting a new champion at the end of this match.
Then, the first guy to come out after Big Show v Punk, would be Van Dam. You let Van Dam and Punk fight it out, and then you start feeding in the heels.
Vince hated this. He especially hated the fact that Big Show liked it.
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