The General Wrestling Thread

[calgaryballer]

I'm a little worried about the talent well drying up. Charismatic young guys who can work a match like Aries and Alex Shelley are becoming fewer and further between. There's less and less guys who either A) command attention or even play a character well ala Fallen Angel, B) freak athletes from a Big Show/Lesnar or Rey/Juvi ends of the spectrum, or C) Guys who can work circles around anyone in a young Am Drag, Angle, HBK, Owen Hart, etc. Nothing looks great down the pipeline. Ask anyone on any board who is the next breakout star or who would make the most of a great opportunity and you get names of guys with average builds, slightly above average ring work, average charisma, average carpentry skills... Nobody stands out anymore. And the guys that do, like Richards, are hardly fresh faces. I really expected more kids who grew up during the Attitude era to become a part of a new wrestling boom era. That doesn't seem to be the case. It looks like it's going to be more of the same. String bean spot monkeys in the minors, failed pro athlete/body builders in the WWE...
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That made me LOL

[EmpireWF]

Dana White owns HHH lol

[Quote]"His father in law is just starting to let him talk in public now. He'll get better at it."[/quote ]

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

ROH is what it is, they have gone just about as far as they can go with the head dropping, athletic indy style. Cary Silkin recognized it years ago and ousted Gabe. There is no more "hot talent" that they already don't have. Look at Gabe and some of the guys he has pushed in DGUSA & EVOLVE. When Sami Callihan is the hot indy name of the moment, you know the well has dried up. There are some diamonds in the rough, but for the most part, the indy revolution of the last decade is dead. Mike Bennett is the big ROH prospect, and he's straight out of a WWE casting call. Mediocre worker with big muscles.

If the indy stuff or ROH was going to be the next big thing, it would have happened already. ROH already peaked asthetically. Give them credit for making it to national TV and briefly being on mainstream PPV. They really are the modern day ECW in that regard, coming up from nothing to national TV in a few years time.

And even ROH was kind of an extension of ECW in a vague way...same area, Gabe involved...was kind of a natural transition for that branch of the tree to go...you had CZW as the more natural transition, which was just horrible wrestling and just oozed over the top violence...but this other branch focused on the in-ring stuff at the Indy level, which was a hidden caveat of ECW. Lots of good workers with lots of blended styles. The Indy World had seen enough of the ridiculous hardcore shit (no offense, Biss), and the Indy world, which had guys like Benoit, Jericho, Angle, etc. in the mainstream, just kind of drew their attention to companies that could field really good matches, and ROH was definitely that.

Right now though, where does the next wave of wrestling come from. In the 90's, in the same way Nirvana and the Seattle scene kicked pop music and garbage hair bands in the teeth, ECW stepped on the scene and literally laid the foreground for any and all ideas that were produced by WWF and WCW in the Attitude Era along with some foreign concepts that worked in Japan/Mexico. The business then saw its best numbers ever.

After ECW tanked, and WCW was purchased by the WWF, you had Indy Wrestling shift to something the WWF wasn't necessarily giving them, which was straight up great work rate (which, they kind of were, as the WWE might have been putting out their best workrate of their history on a consistent basis by Benoit, Jericho, Angle, Eddie, et al, but whatever). Much like the Hardcore ECW stars moved up to the big leagues...all of the Workrate ROH stars are now essentially in the "big leagues" (with too much respect given to TNA with that comment). ROH, right now, reminds me of ECW went to TNN. Instead of having a stacked roster with Taz, the Dudleyz, Shane Douglas, the Sandman, Bam Bam, Sabu et al, you went in with Rob Van Dam, Mike Awesome, and Justin Credible...in the same way ROH now enters without their stars, like AmDrag, Kings of Wrestling, Joe, et al, they go in with Davey Richards, Roddy Strong, and the All Night Express. So, its kind of hard for that little company that got to national TV to actually show why they even got to national TV without the top talent that essentially got them to that point.

But now, what is that natural transition...I have no idea...and there aren't many up and comers that make you really want to tune in, either.

Kind of in no man's land at this point.

[SHOGUN]

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DDnAb9LIVCg"]Ring of Honor Wresting - September 24th - Sinclair Broadcast Group Debut - YouTube[/ame]

[EmpireWF]

Best Twitter account ever!

https://twitter.com/#!/BobbyHeenanSaid

[FedEx227]

Ring of Honor Wresting - September 24th - Sinclair Broadcast Group Debut - YouTube

Best part is you get to see FedEx in the front row.

[BigBiss]

its a homer deal, but ACH is going to take peole by storm i belive. he may never make it to the "fed" but i think once he breaks into the east coast scene he will be a big deal

[Warner2BruceTD]

its a homer deal, but ACH is going to take peole by storm i belive. he may never make it to the "fed" but i think once he breaks into the east coast scene he will be a big deal

Let's see him.

[BigBiss]

There is not alot of free fotage out there of him

[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzn_892GRGI"]Jerry Lynn vs. Rachael Summerlyn vs. ACH vs. Shawn Vexx at ACW (DoJo Extras) - YouTube[/ame]

hes doing alot of goofy RVD stuff in that

[EmpireWF]

Never heard of him/seen of him before....he looks good. Tell me more.

[BigBiss]

Never heard of him/seen of him before....he looks good. Tell me more.

He is a very athletic young man from Austin, he had a program with, Achibal Peck/RD Evans, befor he left texas for philly. He had a program fueding and tagging with Tozowa. in the last year he has had two very good matches with Hero and Davey Richards. 2 weeks ago he had a try out with Dragon Gate and worked on the Fray match

[EmpireWF]

ROH has their new web-site up.

You can pay $8/month to get a bunch of offers and be able to view the TV show on Mondays.

Or you can just sign up for free and watch it on Thursdays.

https://rohwrestling.com/user/register?r=ga

[SHOGUN]

The Exclusive Video Library sounds interesting....

[Warner2BruceTD]

The Exclusive Video Library sounds interesting....

It does.

Do they have a list of the content?

[SHOGUN]

It does.

Do they have a list of the content?

/ Classic ROH Matches
/ Best of Compilations
/ Complete ROH DVDs
/ AND MORE!!

Nothing specific unfortunately.