Big Brother 14

[godspeed]

The thing is you gotta look at it from the other point of view...Frank just lost his ONly 2 allies in the house. He literally has NO ONE as of now. Sure he won HoH this week, but what good will that do him next week when he can't compete in the HoH comp? He has to choose a few people to try and roll with...and if you were him would you really choose Joe/Jenn? They aren't going to win shit. He has to try and make a few deals with members of the Quack Pack. It's his only chance. Also, he does not think Ian was 100% behind Mikes demise he thinks that Dan/others brainwashed him. Obviously not being able to see the episodes and shit he can't know exactly what went on. Frank has already talked with Brit/Shane about trying to make a deal with them. His #1 target his Dan. What's shitty for him is even though he will keep Britney safe, she has already talked about back dooring him the next chance they get. It is what it is...Frank is not in a good position even though he did win HoH this week.

What I'm saying no one is going to work with him. I really don't think Jenn, Joe will. The quack pack won't turn on anyone. Ian is in for the long haul now. Frank doesn't have the persuasive abilities like a Boogie or Dan.

SO, he needs try to get Shane or Ian out. Why? Here is the strategy. Because as much as Dan throws comps, I don't think he can turn on the switch as much as he thinks. Ian has been very close in most of the HoHs and Comps. Shane wins or comes in 2nd. If Frank gets one of them out he stands a better chance the next week when he is up on the block and can play for the power of veto. Frank is going up regardles who wins HoH next week. The quack pack will tell Jen and Joe they owe them big time.

Best case scenario for next week is a strong competitor is gone, and one less person he has to battle for the veto. Then maybe Frank can make an alliance and pull someone away in 3 weeks if he can keep himself in the game.

 

[Epidemik]

Don't understand Frank's logic. He is so hell bent on getting Dan out. Ian is the one who backstabbed them. Shane is the one who put Frank up TWICE, said he was going to be safe twice, and went back on his word twice. And Frank doesn't want to put either of those guys up? Come on man. Unless he doesn't know fully what Ian did.

He just doesn't like dan, also even though Ian 'masterminded the whole thing' dan still went along with it and backstabbed Frank. Frank was thinking of backdooring Dan anyway. The best LOGICAL nominations for Frank, assuming he's come to the realization that he is working all by himself from here on out, is to nominate Dan and Shane, the next biggest physical threats. This will put tension on the quack pack if one of them wins POV, brit would want to keep shane, danielle would want to keep Dan(?) and who knows who ian will keep if he wins. This puts automatic tension on quack pack. But from the After Dark feeds, looks like QP is throwing Dan under the bus already. But it would be stupid for frank to put up Dan and Joe, because if Dan takes himself off the block, it doesnt matter who frank puts up because the QP has the numbers to vote out joe, frank wastes a HOH and looks like a joker.

 

[Epidemik]

And if frank survives next week (or get's nominated), he's guaranteed to compete in every POV competition

 

[Epidemik]

 

[godspeed]

He just doesn't like dan, also even though Ian 'masterminded the whole thing' dan still went along with it and backstabbed Frank. Frank was thinking of backdooring Dan anyway. The best LOGICAL nominations for Frank, assuming he's come to the realization that he is working all by himself from here on out, is to nominate Dan and Shane, the next biggest physical threats. This will put tension on the quack pack if one of them wins POV, brit would want to keep shane, danielle would want to keep Dan(?) and who knows who ian will keep if he wins. This puts automatic tension on quack pack. But from the After Dark feeds, looks like QP is throwing Dan under the bus already. But it would be stupid for frank to put up Dan and Joe, because if Dan takes himself off the block, it doesnt matter who frank puts up because the QP has the numbers to vote out joe, frank wastes a HOH and looks like a joker.

Dan would be ok as well I guess, but I would opt for the other two. With Shane, Ian, Dan in the mix for the two nominations and replacement nominations. It's just crazy Shane is not on Frank's radar. He wins most comps and nominated Frank twice.

 

[Epidemik]

Frank won HoH.

Don't understand Frank's logic. He is so hell bent on getting Dan out. Ian is the one who backstabbed them. Shane is the one who put Frank up TWICE, said he was going to be safe twice, and went back on his word twice. And Frank doesn't want to put either of those guys up? Come on man. Unless he doesn't know fully what Ian did.

From what I've read, it was basically 6 v 1 (the house vs frank) and he still won, with shane and dan coming very close to winning

 

[godspeed]

And if frank survives next week (or get's nominated), he's guaranteed to compete in every POV competition

Right. That needs to be Frank's thinking. He is most likely going to get nominated next week.

That's why he really needs to get a good competition competitor out this week. That needs to be his #1 priority. He has two people on the block that have won nothing. And has people off the block that have won many comps.

 

[Epidemik]

GOAT

 

[Epidemik]

:homieslol:

PANDORAS BOX!!

 

[Rudi]

LOL Of course it comes during Frank's HOH. Keep up the rig Grodner :ukiddingme:

 

[godspeed]

Hoping its going to be something like Coup d'etat power or Diamond Power of veto.

Gotta pull for the underdog Frank.

Was that the audience cheering against Frank during the PoV last night? or was that just the quack pack pulling for the quack pack? It was hard to tell from the audio seemed like I heard boos or more cheering for the quack pack.

 

[Epidemik]

The crowd was completely behind frank last night, they went crazy when it was apparent frank was gonna win when he got the second clover. I've neer seen the crowd cheer like that. It was pretty awesome.

 

[godspeed]

The crowd was completely behind frank last night, they went crazy when it was apparent frank was gonna win when he got the second clover. I've neer seen the crowd cheer like that. It was pretty awesome.

Really??? I thought they were against him? We dvr'd it so I will have to go back and check.

I just checked some websites and they said, they initially groaned booed Frank when he got his 1st clover. But after the 2nd clover they cheered him, thinking maybe there were prompts in the live audience.

EDIT: Just went back and rewatched it. Loud cheer for Ian after the 1st clover. Frank's 1st clover there was a loud groans and some booing. Definately not close to cheering. When Frank get's his 2nd clover there is a mix of groans, didn't really here any all out cheering. Then when Frank goes for the win there is cheering.lol. Quite bizzare. I would have to disagree the crowd was all out behind Frank. You can give it a rewatch on the cbs website.

 

[Jmiles]

Sounded like they were 100% behind him. Idk why they wouldn't be.

 

[Epidemik]

Really??? I thought they were against him? We dvr'd it so I will have to go back and check.

I just checked some websites and they said, they initially groaned booed Frank when he got his 1st clover. But after the 2nd clover they cheered him, thinking maybe there were prompts in the live audience.

EDIT: Just went back and rewatched it. Loud cheer for Ian after the 1st clover. Frank's 1st clover there was a loud groans and some booing. Definately not close to cheering. When Frank get's his 2nd clover there is a mix of groans, didn't really here any all out cheering. Then when Frank goes for the win there is cheering.lol. Quite bizzare. I would have to disagree the crowd was all out behind Frank. You can give it a rewatch on the cbs website.

Admittedly i wasnt paying to much attention to the crowd as I was into the POV competition and payed more attention as Frank was winning.

I've been to live tapings and TV show tapings. I live in Southern California, and a lot of times for some of these tv shows like sitcoms, live shows, etc, they sub contract out to companies to fill these seats (On Camera Audiences is the one we used). A lot of times they are college student groups (a ton of fraternities and sororities), church groups, etc any organization that needs money they offer "fundraising opportunity". They MAKE you clap, they will film the scene over and over and over again to make sure everyone in the scene is clapping. If you notice EVERYONE is clapping. And they do coach the crowd like "ohhhhh" "awwww" "booooo" etc. They even have a hype man and give out random prizes in between scenes while actors changes, they're pretty good prizes like $50 to best buy, amazon, starbucks, etc. It's fun sometimes because the hype man is usually really funny. a half hour show can take like 5 hours to film sometimes. They always do scenes over and over and over and over again, so the crowd has to always be into it.

The bigger shows like dancing with the stars, big bang theory, etc they dont have to pay people they just hand out tickets and people show up just to be there. The big bang theory doesn't have a laugh track by the way, but everyone thinks they do, they really do have a live audience. They probably laugh track for scenes that aren't on set, or maybe to make a few scenes here and there a little louder, but thats about it. They do scenes over and over and over again too, but they do a lot of improv as well, like do the same scene but with slightly different jokes or punch lines.

 

[Cornelius]

Admittedly i wasnt paying to much attention to the crowd as I was into the POV competition and payed more attention as Frank was winning.

I've been to live tapings and TV show tapings. I live in Southern California, and a lot of times for some of these tv shows like sitcoms, live shows, etc, they sub contract out to companies to fill these seats (On Camera Audiences is the one we used). A lot of times they are college student groups (a ton of fraternities and sororities), church groups, etc any organization that needs money they offer "fundraising opportunity". They MAKE you clap, they will film the scene over and over and over again to make sure everyone in the scene is clapping. If you notice EVERYONE is clapping. And they do coach the crowd like "ohhhhh" "awwww" "booooo" etc. They even have a hype man and give out random prizes in between scenes while actors changes, they're pretty good prizes like $50 to best buy, amazon, starbucks, etc. It's fun sometimes because the hype man is usually really funny. a half hour show can take like 5 hours to film sometimes. They always do scenes over and over and over and over again, so the crowd has to always be into it.

The bigger shows like dancing with the stars, big bang theory, etc they dont have to pay people they just hand out tickets and people show up just to be there. The big bang theory doesn't have a laugh track by the way, but everyone thinks they do, they really do have a live audience. They probably laugh track for scenes that aren't on set, or maybe to make a few scenes here and there a little louder, but thats about it. They do scenes over and over and over again too, but they do a lot of improv as well, like do the same scene but with slightly different jokes or punch lines.

I went to a taping of the Larry Sanders Show a long long time ago. It was awful. They do the scenes over and over. It was a roast of "Larry Sanders" so they had a lot of different comedians on, but it was still long as fuck and not much fun.

 

[godspeed]

I'm sure there were crowd prompts keeping the audience involved especially at the end of the comp for the applause for Frank. But if you do go back and check it out, you will hear what I described. Groaning and booing Frank at first, cheering Ian, then finally at the end cheered Frank.


You are right about the hype men before shows, I've been to a few Letterman shows. They have a hype man out before he comes out, gets everyone pumped and a random comedian. They have all the prompts going to make sure you are involved during the taping. They also do in fact keep the Ed Sullivan Theater really cold.

 

[Rudi]

 

There was a Pandora's Box. Frank got 3,000 bucks while all other hgs had a comp involving that crane in the arcade/parlour/cabana room and getting the little box within the crane game. First got Golden Ball of Veto which Ian won.

There will still be a POV competition tomorrow....so things could get real interesting with 2 people being allowed to use their veto

 

[Nevermind]

 

There was a Pandora's Box. Frank got 3,000 bucks while all other hgs had a comp involving that crane in the arcade/parlour/cabana room and getting the little box within the crane game. First got Golden Ball of Veto which Ian won.

There will still be a POV competition tomorrow....so things could get real interesting with 2 people being allowed to use their veto

 

I have a feeling this week will end with the Quack Pack fully intact and Joe will be walking out the door.

The plan seems to be get Shane or Brit to win POV and have them take off one of the noms. Then Ian uses his power to take off the other one. This leaves Frank to nominate whoever didn't win the veto (Shane/Brit) and Joe or Jenn. Quack Pack will have the votes to keep their member who is on the block and Joe or Jenn get voted out.

Dan really deserves to win this game if he gets these fools to save him. They are too loyal to see that he is a huge threat to them winning this game.

 

[Epidemik]

 

Frank needs to realize he's on his own, he can't strike any deals worth anything with the quack pack