Biogenesis Thread: Founder turns himself in

[FedEx227]

It is funny, the GenPop doesn't fully understand why, for example, baseball players take performance enhancers not to become bigger, stronger, faster...that is a by product of consumption, but athletes take the good stuff to recover...to play Game 137, just like Game 1.

For a hundred years of baseball history, baseball players just took amphetamines...then in the 80's those were shunned upon by baseball...

In the next decade, they turned to a more ridiculous cocktail to enhance performance...it is what it is...

Players have always used whatever was available to them. I understand in some peoples minds steroids are worse than greenies, but greenies were flying around at that time and easy to get. So they did it. Before that guys dirtied up the ball, used razor blades, corked their bats, etc. Just different levels of cheating. It depends how much relativity you want to put into it.

With that said, tests done show HGH doesn't have that much of an impact on athletics so I'm not going to go crazy about this particular story.

 

[Goober]

Ryan Braun went to college at Miami. :tiptoe:

 

[NAHSTE]

FWIW, nothing Gio is listed as having received from that doctor is on the banned list.

 

[Goober]

LOL at the Yankees trying to void A-rod's contract. That will never happen.

 

[NAHSTE]

LOL at the Yankees trying to void A-rod's contract. That will never happen.

So fucking dumb. Just talk-radio fodder for their mouth breathing fans.

 

[Villain]

LOL @ "Sports Biggest Names"

 

[Senser81]

It is funny, the GenPop doesn't fully understand why, for example, baseball players take performance enhancers not to become bigger, stronger, faster...that is a by product of consumption, but athletes take the good stuff to recover...to play Game 137, just like Game 1.

For a hundred years of baseball history, baseball players just took amphetamines...then in the 80's those were shunned upon by baseball...

In the next decade, they turned to a more ridiculous cocktail to enhance performance...it is what it is...

Not really understanding this post. Baseball players taking steroids and becoming bigger/stronger/faster was merely a byproduct of consumption? They were really just trying to have enough stamina to play Game 137?

 

[FedEx227]

I'm not entirely sure what point Larry is trying to make but we've had this discussion at least a hundred times. I don't really want to do it again because we aren't going to convince each other but here's a few links for reading:

http://www.nytimes.com/2008/01/27/sports/baseball/27score.html?_r=0

http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=3659

 

[SuperKevin]

I think he's saying that most of these guys are using steroids to strengthen injured muscles to aid in recovery so they are 100%

 

[ThomasTomasz]

It is funny, the GenPop doesn't fully understand why, for example, baseball players take performance enhancers not to become bigger, stronger, faster...that is a by product of consumption, but athletes take the good stuff to recover...to play Game 137, just like Game 1.

For a hundred years of baseball history, baseball players just took amphetamines...then in the 80's those were shunned upon by baseball...

In the next decade, they turned to a more ridiculous cocktail to enhance performance...it is what it is...

I wouldn't say for some it's a by-product of consumption. I am sure there are plenty who took it to get stronger, but there are many others, the ones like Alex Sanchez who you would least expect, took it to help in the healing process, whether it's wear and tear over a 162 game season or recovering from an injury.

 

[FedEx227]

Which is what steroids are far better at doing versus making Barry Bonds/Roger Clemens legendary players.

 

[Senser81]

Which is what steroids are far better at doing versus making Barry Bonds/Roger Clemens legendary players.

Yes, that is what steroids are designed to do. But I wouldn't say that people like Bonds and Sosa gained muscle mass as a byproduct of consumption. I think they had a plan in place.

 

[FedEx227]

Ah, I get what you're saying. Yes, it's not something that just happened and surprised them. "OH SWEET!"

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Which is what steroids are far better at doing versus making Barry Bonds/Roger Clemens legendary players.

I would argue that that's the case for Clemens more so than not. Helping to repair his body with all the stress on his throwing arm and lower body is huge.

 

[ralaw]

It is hilarious how the media is beating a dead horse with Arod and performance enhancing drugs, yet with Lewis who is at the SB they're like, "Well, he denied it, so what else is there to talk about?" If Lewis wasn't in the SB this would be even less of a story.

 

[Senser81]

Ah, I get what you're saying. Yes, it's not something that just happened and surprised them. "OH SWEET!"

Yeah, I think the term "byproduct" is thrown around way too much these days...

 

[Derrville]

Too bad these drugs couldnt help Cruz catch a fly ball 2 years ago in the World Series.

 

[Woy]

Too bad these drugs couldnt help Cruz catch a fly ball 2 years ago in the World Series.

:motte:

 

[NAHSTE]

A groan for each hundo that cost me, Woy.

 

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

It is hilarious how the media is beating a dead horse with Arod and performance enhancing drugs, yet with Lewis who is at the SB they're like, "Well, he denied it, so what else is there to talk about?" If Lewis wasn't in the SB this would be even less of a story.

When Lewis says he is blessed, I believe him.

The guy is like teflon , nothing sticks to him and the media really does look the other way with this guy no matter what.