[PC] Computer help

[Twigg4075]

I spoke too soon. First game of Uncharted was ok but after that...lag, lag and more lag. Ugh.

 

[Maynard]

did u run the virus software? the screen shot u posted is not readable.

what kind of router do you have and do you have any idea what the setup is? is it password protected? did u direct connect it to the console?

im sure people are willing to help you, but we are not in your home and cant see what we need to see to help....its up to you to post up info and do a little trouble shooting.

 

[jms493]

i had problems with lag for a while. I bought and tried like 3 routers from BB and then i said fuck and bought the Apple Airport Extreme and......it has been butter smooth ever since.

 

[killgod]

I just updated Firefox and, so far, there isn't any more lag on my PC.

I'll test my gaming hopefully tonight to see if I'm still having issues on that end.

You know what's funny though but kind of unrelated. I was chatting with this employee at Best Buy earlier who I see all the time and is super cool. He seems like a pretty knowledgable guy and when I started talking about how people were telling me that I should set up a static IP for my console and open/forward ports in my router he just laughed. He basically said he thinks all that stuff is a pain in the dick too. He said the same thing happened to him when when he tried doing that with his PS3. He couldn't get online with his 360 or his laptop.

If he couldn't figure that out, he's nowhere near as knowledgeable as you think he is. Not to sound like a snob but if the guy is working in a tech role at BestBuy, that's the equivalent of an aspiring chef being a dishwasher at Swiss Chalet or to be more in common with your line of work...an aspiring police officer being a rent a cop at an old age home. Just so you have some perspective on your typical department store tech guy's skill level....anyways, gonna throw some random ideas at you.

So just for shits and giggles, disconnect all your systems from the network (at the physical level) and then see if your PS3 games are laggy. Basic process of elimination troubleshooting, if the PS3 is the absolute only item connected in your home network and you still experience issue then it's either something happening at the router level, or with your ISP. If there no longer is an issue, then I'd assume it's something inside your network causing this problem. You could use www.speedtest.net to verify you're getting the correct bandwidth to your home. Run this from a PC when you are experiencing issue just to verify the ISP is providing you the expected speeds.

Possible that someone has turned your PC into a slave in a botnet without you realizing it?

I don't think you're tech savvy enough, but you could attempt to take a look at...

http://download.cnet.com/Bandwidth-Monitor-Pro/3000-2085_4-10217766.html

...and take a look at your network traffic to see if anything is going on there.



If you believe that someone may have accessed your network I would advise you change your router admin password and WLAN key, I mean it should be done every so often anyways but I realize most people aren't comfortable enough to change things once they are working...so...yeah.

Looking at your router config just checking to be sure no unknowns are connected to it should be done as well. You should be able to find a list of connected devices to rule out any local/nearby unwanted access.

Another simple point but always needs to be asked...downloading. Torrents, P2P, windows update, application updates....on any system? You're sure?


When you follow any advice I suggest, don't assume and always be sure. Just keep that in mind when you check each thing out.

If I can think of anything else to throw at you I'll post again later.

 

[Twigg4075]

did u run the virus software? the screen shot u posted is not readable.

what kind of router do you have and do you have any idea what the setup is? is it password protected? did u direct connect it to the console?

im sure people are willing to help you, but we are not in your home and cant see what we need to see to help....its up to you to post up info and do a little trouble shooting.

Yes. And I frequently run Crap Cleaner, Spybot, disc cleanup, defrag, etc.

My router is a Netgear WNR2000 Wireless N dual band and I've only had it for around two years. I have a WEP set up on it.

 

[Twigg4075]

I was thinking this...
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/Asus+-+...139126&skuId=3194853&st=asus router&cp=1&lp=1

or this...
[ame="http://www.amazon.com/RT-N16-Wireless-N-Maximum-Performance-single/dp/B00387G6R8/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1318024904&sr=8-2"]Amazon.com: ASUS (RT-N16) Wireless-N 300 Maximum Performance single band Gaming Router: Fast Gigabit Ethernet, support USB-Hard Drive and Printer and Open source DDWRT: Electronics[/ame]

For some reason the second one is described as a 'Gaming Router'. Hmmm.

Anyway, I was researching the router JMS told me about, the Apple Airport, and among some of the unfavorable reviews I stumbled upon one where the guy said he switched from the Apple one to the first one I linked and he thinks it's much better.

I know Asus makes some pretty kick ass tech so I was thinking of biting the bullet and buying one of these, especially since I've only ever had Linksys or Netgear routers in the past. Plus I conveniently received one of those 12% coupons from Best Buy today.

 

[leaffan]

Yes. And I frequently run Crap Cleaner, Spybot, disc cleanup, defrag, etc.

My router is a Netgear WNR2000 Wireless N dual band and I've only had it for around two years. I have a WEP set up on it.

WHAT?

With wep on you are basically disabling the N standard. WPA2/AES is the way to go.

I haven't read anything else in this thread yet. I seen the mac airport (fuck that thing btw) being recommended and then I came across this.

WEP is a really really old standard which shouldn't be used if you don't need it.

 

[leaffan]

I just updated Firefox and, so far, there isn't any more lag on my PC.

I'll test my gaming hopefully tonight to see if I'm still having issues on that end.

You know what's funny though but kind of unrelated. I was chatting with this employee at Best Buy earlier who I see all the time and is super cool. He seems like a pretty knowledgable guy and when I started talking about how people were telling me that I should set up a static IP for my console and open/forward ports in my router he just laughed. He basically said he thinks all that stuff is a pain in the dick too. He said the same thing happened to him when when he tried doing that with his PS3. He couldn't get online with his 360 or his laptop.

Stop talking to this guy.

 

[Twigg4075]

WHAT?

With wep on you are basically disabling the N standard. WPA2/AES is the way to go.

I haven't read anything else in this thread yet. I seen the mac airport (fuck that thing btw) being recommended and then I came across this.

WEP is a really really old standard which shouldn't be used if you don't need it.

Are you fucking serious? I mean, I know you are but this is the first I'm hearing of this. So you're saying because I'm using WEP security as opposed to WPA I'm not even using wireless N? So I'm just using wireless G?

BTW, I did turn off the touch pad and netbook the other day and tested things and still experienced a shit ton of lag in Uncharted 3.

 

[leaffan]

K I read all of this.

Honestly whenever you want to do it we'll just setup a remote session using team viewer and I'll just remote in and see whats going on.

I think I know whats going on but I'm too lazy to type it all out lol.

 

[Twigg4075]

Just checked my router settings and there are multipe versions of WPA2. Which one should I use?

WPA-PSK [TKIP]
WPA2-PSK [AES]
WPA-PSK [TKIP] + WPA2-PSK [AES]

 

[Twigg4075]

K I read all of this.

Honestly whenever you want to do it we'll just setup a remote session using team viewer and I'll just remote in and see whats going on.

I think I know whats going on but I'm too lazy to type it all out lol.

I'm available right now.

If you can help me fix this shit I might fly to Canada and kiss you on the mouth. LOL.

 

[leaffan]

Are you fucking serious? I mean, I know you are but this is the first I'm hearing of this. So you're saying because I'm using WEP security as opposed to WPA I'm not even using wireless N? So I'm just using wireless G?

BTW, I did turn off the touch pad and netbook the other day and tested things and still experienced a shit ton of lag in Uncharted 3.

Well your using N but its limited to G speeds thanks to limitations on the encryption.

I seriously hope you don't have a piece of paper lying around with that insane wep code on it. Its like carrying around a game geneie code or something lol.

 

[leaffan]

I'm available right now.

If you can help me fix this shit I might fly to Canada and kiss you on the mouth. LOL.

I gotta leave in 20mins but I can check it right now:

http://teamviewer.com/en/index.aspx

Download that. If you have aim add me leaffan299

 

[Twigg4075]

Well your using N but its limited to G speeds thanks to limitations on the encryption.

I seriously hope you don't have a piece of paper lying around with that insane wep code on it. Its like carrying around a game geneie code or something lol.

NO. So I can just switch to WPA no problem I assume but which one do I use? Sorry I'm so clueless.

 

[Twigg4075]

Ok, so I switched to WPA2. Hopefully I can test it out with some Uncharted 3 and Gears 3 later tonight.

When I reconfigured my PS3, there was a new step in the process that I haven't seen before. It actually tells you the speeds you're allegedly getting. It on;y said 3.6 download and 3.1 upload. Now I know you lose a good amount over wireless but damn. If that is accurate I'm only getting a third of what I'm actually getting into my house?

It also said the signal strength was only 90% whereas before it always seemed to show 100%.

Unfortunately Xbox doesn't give yu all that info but it connected fine.

 

[Twigg4075]

Ok, so everything was going great. I played about a handful of Uncharted 3 matches with no lag. I played about 10 chapters of Gears of War online co-op without so much as a hiccup.

Then all of a sudden I'm one chapter away from getting the cheevo for completing all chapters in four player co-op. Literally as soon as the previously chapter ends I see that I'm getting the "So and so has left your Xbox Live party". One by one until "Can't connect to party." Not odd as we all know. But then I get completely booted from Libe and I notice my netbook disconnects as well.

My PC is still fine because I'm typing this. I have internet. But nothing will connect with the router.

This is a first.

 

[Chrispy]

I think it time for a new router....

 

[Twigg4075]

I think it time for a new router....

Maybe. It was just so weird. After changing to WPA2 like Leaf suggested I played online for about five hours straight with zero issues. Then all of a sudden...bang, lose all connection. I've never had that happen before besides when I've lost my internet connection completely.

The timing of it couldn't have been more strange either. Like I said, it happened right when we finished the chpater and the scores were being tallied because we were playing Arcade mode. One more chapter and I would've gotten my cheevo.

I think the cheevo gods are smiting me.:shy:

I resent the modem and router and now I'm back in business. But the fact that it happened in the first place and how it happened concerns me.

 

[Twigg4075]

I don't know what the deal is now. I go to set up the connection on my wife's 360 and PS3 and they won't connect. The 360 just won't connect and doesn't really tell you what the problem is (I hate the way they updated that, so much better when the 360 first released) and the PS3 says the WPA passcode is wrong. I triple checked and I'm typing everything is accurately so I have no idea wtf the problem is.

Then I had downstairs to make sure my console still connect. They do, but they seem slow. The 360 seemed to take much longer to sign into Live and the avatars next to my PS3 friends took forever to load.

Leaf, I need your help again man.