Could LSU lose to Alabama in the National Championship and still be #1?

[FirstTimer]

FT is slowly coming around, i just need him to agree that its more possible than 0.0000000000001%

WTF do you mean "slowly coming around".

I never said it was impossible.

Read the thread again from the start retard.

 

[FirstTimer]

No one is disagreeing with that being a possibility. I think the disagreement is that you seem to be attaching some sort of relevance to that possibility. What is your point?

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Exactly. I'm sure some retard somewhere might vote LSU over Bama after a playoff loss NCG if the AP poll kept existing with the playoff set up or if it wasn't absorbed into the playoff set up itself.

Then again a massive number more people would vote for Bama because it make sense basedon the way people think about and view playoffs. It's like the one or two writers voting for Boise each year they went undefeated. Sure it happened...but it didn't mean anything or change anything.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

No one is disagreeing with that being a possibility. I think the disagreement is that you seem to be attaching some sort of relevance to that possibility. What is your point?

That its a realistic possibility. That was my only point. So we agree then?

 

[FirstTimer]

That its a realistic possibility

Not in any real meaningful or relevant way.

Tard

 

[Senser81]

That its a realistic possibility. That was my only point. So we agree then?

What is meant by "realistic possibility"? And thats not really a "point", its an observation.

I could say that its a realistic possibility that Ohio State doesn't sniff a national title game if a playoff system is developed...but is that really a "point"?

I'm not disputing what you say, I'm asking you "why are you saying this?"

 

[ZoneBlitz]

Not in any real meaningful or relevant way.

Tard

Well you're wrong.

Fag.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

What is meant by "realistic possibility"? And thats not really a "point", its an observation.

I could say that its a realistic possibility that Ohio State doesn't sniff a national title game if a playoff system is developed...but is that really a "point"?

I'm not disputing what you say, I'm asking you "why are you saying this?"

Because i was making an observation, point, whatever you wanna call it.

You guys been strongly disputing it for 3 pages.

 

[kmanharris]

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As FT and Sensor have said 56 times, (that's an exaggeration, don't take it literally) sure people could still say LSU>Bama even if Bama beat LSU in the NCCG after a playoff, but, those people would be in the minority and it wouldn't change a thing.

I'll break it down further and space it out in both scenarios for you:

Scenario 1
100 voters (again, made up number)
Bama>LSU with no playoff
51 vote LSU #1
49 vote Bama #1

Scenario 2
100 voters
Bama>LSU with a playoff
98 vote Bama #1
2 vote LSU #1

Do you see the difference? Majority of people voted LSU #1 in the scenario with no playoff, so obviously it makes a difference because of the subjectivity of how Bama got into the game. The 2 people who voted for LSU in scenario 2 don't make a fucking difference because there is no subjectivity because it was all decided on the field.

 

[FirstTimer]

Well you're wrong.

Fag.

My poll proves otherwise.

:smug:

You guys been strongly disputing it for 3 pages.

No, we have not been.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

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As FT and Sensor have said 56 times, (that's an exaggeration, don't take it literally) sure people could still say LSU>Bama even if Bama beat LSU in the NCCG after a playoff, but, those people would be in the minority and it wouldn't change a thing.

I'll break it down further and space it out in both scenarios for you:

Scenario 1
100 voters (again, made up number)
Bama>LSU with no playoff
51 vote LSU #1
49 vote Bama #1

Scenario 2
100 voters
Bama>LSU with a playoff
98 vote Bama #1
2 vote LSU #1

Do you see the difference? Majority of people voted LSU #1 in the scenario with no playoff, so obviously it makes a difference because of the subjectivity of how Bama got into the game. The 2 people who voted for LSU in scenario 2 don't make a fucking difference because there is no subjectivity because it was all decided on the field.

Bullshit. Thats just your opinion.

Many people happen to believe Bama was deserving of the #2 spot, so they wouldnt need them to win a playoff game for them to be "deserving"

 

[ram29jackson]

The NIU vs Ark State game is more important than this game..

 

[Senser81]

The AP Poll has meaning only if people find it meaningful. If college football goes to a playoff system, nobody can stop the AP from still releasing their poll. But, as you already pointed out, the AP doesn't do a final basketball poll because they have a tournament to decide a champion. Even the AP realizes that their poll would be worthless at that point.

You act as if its the AP that has total control over college football. Even if college football goes to a playoff system, the AP can thwart that scheme by RELEASING A POLL AFTER THE PLAYOFF! GASP!!!

EDIT: not trying to be a smartass troll, I honestly don't understand your point.

 

[FirstTimer]

Bullshit. Thats just your opinion.

No. It's pretty well backed up with the way people view and feel about playoff results..regardless if the final game is a rematch or not.

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[FirstTimer]

The NIU vs Ark State game is more important than this game..

:yeah:

The AP Poll has meaning only if people find it meaningful. If college football goes to a playoff system, nobody can stop the AP from still releasing their poll. But, as you already pointed out, the AP doesn't do a final basketball poll because they have a tournament to decide a champion. Even the AP realizes that their poll would be worthless at that point.

You act as if its the AP that has total control over college football. Even if college football goes to a playoff system, the AP can thwart that scheme by RELEASING A POLL AFTER THE PLAYOFF! GASP!!!

EDIT: not trying to be a smartass troll, I honestly don't understand your point.

EDIT: I liked you better as a smart ass troll.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

The AP Poll has meaning only if people find it meaningful. If college football goes to a playoff system, nobody can stop the AP from still releasing their poll. But, as you already pointed out, the AP doesn't do a final basketball poll because they have a tournament to decide a champion. Even the AP realizes that their poll would be worthless at that point.

You act as if its the AP that has total control over college football. Even if college football goes to a playoff system, the AP can thwart that scheme by RELEASING A POLL AFTER THE PLAYOFF! GASP!!!

EDIT: not trying to be a smartass troll, I honestly don't understand your point.

Ive already stated my point many times so i dont think its worth repeating.

At what point would the AP poll be worthless? With a 4 team playoff? 8 team playoff?

What we have now can be considered a playoff, it just contains only 2 teams.

If there was a 4 team playoff, the way those 4 teams are selected might be exactly the same!

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[FirstTimer]

4 team playoff this year.

LSU vs Stanford

Bama vs Okie St

LSU and Bama win.

Meet for the title.

Bama wins.

You mean to tell me you honestly believe the AP Poll would vote LSU over Alabama for the NC?

If not..it's not a "major issue" it's an unfounded and stupid fear.

 

[kmanharris]

Bullshit. Thats just your opinion.

Many people happen to believe Bama was deserving of the #2 spot, so they wouldnt need them to win a playoff game for them to be "deserving"

And what you are saying isn't an opinion?

Many people (one's who weren't SEC coaches, fans, or SEC fanboys) thought Oklahoma State should be number 2. Here is where the subjective part comes into play and why there will likely be a split in the AP poll if Bama does win.

Guess what will eliminate subjectivity...... a playoff. Something that doesn't rely on formulas that nobody knows or coaches that have an obvious bias towards one team. A playoff is something that EVERYONE (ok, maybe 98%) agrees on, or have you been missing the talk for the past few years?

 

[ZoneBlitz]

4 team playoff this year.

LSU vs Stanford

Bama vs Okie St

LSU and Bama win.

Meet for the title.

Bama wins.

You mean to tell me you honestly believe the AP Poll would vote LSU over Alabama for the NC?

If not..it's not a "major issue" it's an unfounded and stupid fear.

I believe its a possibility...the people who currently have LSU>Bama would have no reason to change their minds, if each team wins a playoff game.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

And what you are saying isn't an opinion?

Many people (one's who weren't SEC coaches, fans, or SEC fanboys) thought Oklahoma State should be number 2. Here is where the subjective part comes into play and why there will likely be a split in the AP poll if Bama does win.

Guess what will eliminate subjectivity...... a playoff. Something that doesn't rely on formulas that nobody knows or coaches that have an obvious bias towards one team. A playoff is something that EVERYONE (ok, maybe 98%) agrees on, or have you been missing the talk for the past few years?

A playoff would still be subjective!

Unless you go with FT's plan of all conf champs, teams will have to be selected with subjectivity.

 

[FirstTimer]

Ive already stated my point many times so i dont think its worth repeating.

It wasn't worth stating originally.

What we have now can be considered a playoff

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