Enough is enough. Peyton Manning is the greatest QB of all time.

[DomePatrol]

I love all these teens and 20 year olds talking about the greatest of Joe Montana like they actually watched him play a game that wasnt on NFL films

Thats the main reason i stay out of these threads most of the time. Ive never seen Montana play so I cant make a valid argument against Manning as being the greatest IVE ever seen. If I was older then maybe I could say Montana, but without watching even 1 of his games besides SB highlights I would just be driving myself into a hole.

 

[Bear Pand]

When the Colts' offense is great, it is all about Manning being the greatest QB since the invention of the forward pass.

When the Colts' offense is held to 17 points and gives up a pick 6, it is all about how Manning did the best he could and those around him really needed to step up.

Please the Colts only scored 20 points in the Baltimore game and that wasn't an issue because the D stepped up and did their job. The problem isn't so much that the Colts only scored 17 the problem is that the defense played like shit, the special teams compounded the problem.

The Colts got into a situation where Manning had to try to match the other team score for score and he made a mistake. That played perfectly into the Saints hands because they've been winning that way the entire season.

 

[Archer]

Manning called a piss poor game after the first quarter. He abandoned the run in the second half and gave the game away with his pick 6. If you want to call him the OC on the field, he is to blame for their offense looking like shit.

Forgot to add this to my last post . I could agree with this

I almost wish they'd take some of that power away or at least have somebody say "hey Peyton we're running on them here... we don't need you to throw it every down" It's almost like he feels the need to pass it on every down and win it on his own sometimes

I also somewhat blame the mentality of the team/coaching staff ... like Panda said the Colts treat the run like a trick play. They think it's something to only use when the opposition D is rushing three.

 

[Liquidrob]

John Elway is the best, Manning will be up in the mix and probably already is, I would also give Marino the edge over Montana

Montana had such a great set up with Walsh fucking up defenses, guys like Jerry Rice who would run the correct route, defenses that were some of the best around, an owner that would pay everyone to play for them, etc...

Montana is great, but some of you guys are just taking it to far, also throw in the Pats cheating during Mannings run and you probably took a super bowl or 2 from the Colts

 

[Nukleopatra]

John Elway is the best, Manning will be up in the mix and probably already is, I would also give Marino the edge over Montana

Montana had such a great set up with Walsh fucking up defenses, guys like Jerry Rice who would run the correct route, defenses that were some of the best around, an owner that would pay everyone to play for them, etc...

Montana is great, but some of you guys are just taking it to far, also throw in the Pats cheating during Mannings run and you probably took a super bowl or 2 from the Colts

Dude, you take being a fucking idiot too far, but do we complain?

 

[Liquidrob]

Dude, you take being a fucking idiot too far, but do we complain?

a little

 

[EmpireWF]

What? Kordell Stewart can't catch a break.

 

[JeremyHight]

Please the Colts only scored 20 points in the Baltimore game and that wasn't an issue because the D stepped up and did their job. The problem isn't so much that the Colts only scored 17 the problem is that the defense played like shit, the special teams compounded the problem.

The Colts got into a situation where Manning had to try to match the other team score for score and he made a mistake. That played perfectly into the Saints hands because they've been winning that way the entire season.

The Colts defense gave up 24 points and were given a short field a couple times because of special teams and stalled drives. They stopped NO outside their endzone and overall, played a pretty solid game. They were kept on the field for nearly 30 minutes real time because of poor offense and special teams. They really played a solid game considering the circumstances.

Again, the defense played good, not great. The offense played awful, especially considering what was expected of them and the ease at which they were able to run, but abandoned it completely.

 

[Nukleopatra]

What? Kordell Stewart can't catch a break.

I think Liq has him 5th behind Warren Moon.

 

[Bear Pand]

The Colts defense gave up 24 points and were given a short field a couple times because of special teams and stalled drives. They stopped NO outside their endzone and overall, played a pretty solid game. They were kept on the field for nearly 30 minutes real time because of poor offense and special teams. They really played a solid game considering the circumstances.

Again, the defense played good, not great. The offense played awful, especially considering what was expected of them and the ease at which they were able to run, but abandoned it completely.

stopped reading here

 

[Liquidrob]

I think Liq has him 5th behind Warren Moon.

nah, Moon sucked and Kordell was awful, they're no Doug Williams

 

[Nukleopatra]

Since I don't feel like reading through 40 pages of shit, who exactly is claiming Peyton Manning is the GOAT, besides W2B and Liq? This is the first I've heard of it, but then again, I do try to avoid Sportscenter, where I'm sure this shit all started in the first place... Let me guess, they jumped off the bandwagon now that Manning lost last night, right?

 

[Liquidrob]

Since I don't feel like reading through 40 pages of shit, who exactly is claiming Peyton Manning is the GOAT, besides W2B and Liq? This is the first I've heard of it, but then again, I do try to avoid Sportscenter, where iI'm sure this shit all started in the first place... Let me guess, they jumped off the bandwagon now that Manning lost last night, right?

I'm not, John Elway is

 

[Archer]

Since I don't feel like reading through 40 pages of shit, who exactly is claiming Peyton Manning is the GOAT, besides W2B and Liq? This is the first I've heard of it, but then again, I do try to avoid Sportscenter, where I'm sure this shit all started in the first place... Let me guess, they jumped off the bandwagon now that Manning lost last night, right?

Mainly Warner and Deviant

Most people either flat out said no or said he's the best they've seen.

 

[Palooza]

What? Kordell Stewart can't catch a break.

I was Kordell Stewart for Halloween.

He gets plenty of credit.

 

[Shayn•Da•Pain]

I'm in the Joe Mantana camp myself.

I asked this question not 10 minutes after the SB. How does this loss effect Peyton as compared to the GOAT's? Not one of the 15-17 guys thought Peyton was the GOAT. The room was split however on who was the GOAT's. The names I heard most were Montana, Elway, Marino, and Unitas. Nobody felt Manning deserved top 5 consideration at this point. None of these guys were VSN'ers, nor were any of them big on ESPN or SC.

 

[FedEx227]

Since I don't feel like reading through 40 pages of shit, who exactly is claiming Peyton Manning is the GOAT, besides W2B and Liq? This is the first I've heard of it, but then again, I do try to avoid Sportscenter, where I'm sure this shit all started in the first place... Let me guess, they jumped off the bandwagon now that Manning lost last night, right?

I think he's on pace TO be the best ever. But obviously isn't there yet. I think once it's all done, once he's added 5-6 more years he'll be there.

 

[FedEx227]

I'm in the Joe Mantana camp myself.

I asked this question not 10 minutes after the SB. How does this loss effect Peyton as compared to the GOAT's? Not one of the 15-17 guys thought Peyton was the GOAT. The room was split however on who was the GOAT's. The names I heard most were Montana, Elway, Marino, and Unitas. Nobody felt Manning deserved top 5 consideration at this point. None of these guys were VSN'ers, nor were any of them big on ESPN or SC.

See that I can't buy into. I think he's top 5.

 

[Nukleopatra]

John Elway is the best, Manning will be up in the mix and probably already is, I would also give Marino the edge over Montana

Montana had such a great set up with Walsh fucking up defenses, guys like Jerry Rice who would run the correct route, defenses that were some of the best around, an owner that would pay everyone to play for them, etc...

Montana is great, but some of you guys are just taking it to far, also throw in the Pats cheating during Mannings run and you probably took a super bowl or 2 from the Colts

Joe Montana did it when football was still football.. Not the pussified pile of donkey spunk that it is today. And he did it more than once. If you ask me, I think we should hold that against Peyton Manning, because if a grocery store clerk can get to three superbowls in todays horrible game, Peyton Manning, being as great as he is, should have 5 superbowls by now. Tom Brady has what? Three? And the guy was drafted in the 7th round, I think. Football today is a complete fucking joke - if half the shit was scripted, I wouldn't be shocked. Jay Cutler will probably throw for 30+ TDs in 2010, and of course, it's all due to how ''talented'' he is.

Archer knows I back Peyton and the Colts, but better than Joe Montana, he is not.

 

[Liquidrob]

Joe Montana did it when football was still football.. Not the pussified pile of donkey spunk that it is today. And he did it more than once. If you ask me, I think we should hold that against Peyton Manning, because if a grocery store clerk can get to three superbowls in todays horrible game, Peyton Manning, being as great as he is, should have 5 superbowls by now. Tom Brady has what? Three? And the guy was drafted in the 7th round, I think. Football today is a complete fucking joke - if half the shit was scripted, I wouldn't be shocked. Jay Cutler will probably throw for 30+ TDs in 2010, and of course, it's all due to how ''talented'' he is.

Archer knows I back Peyton and the Colts, but better than Joe Montana, he is not.

I would agree about football was football back than, I dont even really like watching it now, just watch it out of habit I guess, the game is becoming a joke