Enough is enough. Peyton Manning is the greatest QB of all time.

[Esjay]

How can you reasonably debate the topic at hand after gargling Mannings cock like you did just there?


Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, shit without Manning.

Worst run defences, the same run defence that dominated their way to a superbowl title.

Shocking to see this guy miss a pass.


GTFO.





Anyways,

Measuring QB's by rings isn't right. But completely ignoring their BIG GAME performance is wrong. Mannings play in BIG GAMES is not up to GOAT standards. Not matter how you slice it.

*awaits some dumb Indy homer to scream otherwise, then bring Brady into it because I'm a Pats fan despite me not even including him in this discussion because he doesn't deserve to be*

You really think Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark would put up the same numbers without Manning? If you don't you're blind. I'm not being a homer, it's the truth. I know it sounds ridiculous but that's how good he is.

Yeah the run D was very good in the playoffs but they were so bad in the regular season it was a miracle we won any games. The only reason we did was because of Peyton.

 

[Houston]

Reggie Wayne, Dallas Clark, shit without Manning.


GTFO.

Pretty sure he said less, not shit....

 

[killgod]

You really think Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark would put up the same numbers without Manning? If you don't you're blind. I'm not being a homer, it's the truth. I know it sounds ridiculous but that's how good he is.

Yeah the run D was very good in the playoffs but they were so bad in the regular season it was a miracle we won any games. The only reason we did was because of Peyton.

Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark would have success with any legit QB. That's ridiculous to suggest otherwise. Wayne was a STAR @ Miami. Holds records and shit.

The only reason you won was because of Peyton? Give me a fucking break homer. You won DESPITE Peyton half the time and he received an undeserved SB MVP if you ask me. Rhodes got fucking ripped off.

Did you even watch the same playoffs everyone else did?

He had 3 INT's vs the Chiefs
2 INT's vs the Ravens AND couldn't find the endzone. (Thankfully the D came through)

He played well vs New England, despite contributing to the massive hole they found themselves in at halftime

His SB performance was average. His only TD coming from a blown coverage leaving Wayne open by a mile.


CMONNNNNNNN MAN!

Pretty sure he said less, not shit....

I was overexaggerating to emphasize my point. Thanks for catching on you dumb fucking kid.

 

[Esjay]

Reggie Wayne and Dallas Clark would have success with any legit QB. That's ridiculous to suggest otherwise. Wayne was a STAR @ Miami. Holds records and shit.

The only reason you won was because of Peyton? Give me a fucking break homer. You won DESPITE Peyton half the time and he received an undeserved SB MVP if you ask me. Rhodes got fucking ripped off.

Did you even watch the same playoffs everyone else did?

He had 3 INT's vs the Chiefs
2 INT's vs the Ravens AND couldn't find the endzone. (Thankfully the D came through)

He played well vs New England, despite contributing to the massive hole they found themselves in at halftime

His SB performance was average. His only TD coming from a blown coverage leaving Wayne open by a mile.


CMONNNNNNNN MAN!



I was overexaggerating to emphasize my point. Thanks for catching on you dumb fucking kid.

Hey idiot, I was referring to the regular season when I said he was the only reason we won. We had ZERO run defense for 16 games and wouldn't have MADE the playoffs without Manning. What part of that is so hard for you to understand?

 

[killgod]

Hey idiot, I was referring to the regular season when I said he was the only reason we won. We had ZERO run defense for 16 games and wouldn't have MADE the playoffs without Manning. What part of that is so hard for you to understand?

Why is it so hard for you to understand my reasoning for Peyton NOT TO BE the GOAT is because of his BIG GAME play?


God damn son.

 

[killgod]

Yeah, because the sample size of 15 playoff games tells us so much more than the 181 games he's played as a whole

I love how quickly you Manning homers are to disregard the BIG GAMES of his career because his play wasn't up to his regular season standings.


Manning is the GOAT cause he can thrash the previously weak AFC South year in and year out, but when it comes to the playoff.....wait no....playoffs don't mean anything cause it's a team game and cause of weak defence and cause of you being a Patriots fan and blah blah (subsequently this all doesn't apply in the regular season tho? no?)


Give me a fucking break you jokers.


You disregard the playoffs because he's never been as good in the playoffs as the regular season. You won't admit it though. If Manning was boss in the playoffs, you'd be all over how great his play in big games is......you'd be lying if you say you wouldn't.

 

[Houston]

I love how quickly you Manning homers are to disregard the BIG GAMES of his career because his play wasn't up to his regular season standings.


Manning is the GOAT cause he can thrash the previously weak AFC South year in and year out, but when it comes to the playoff.....wait no....playoffs don't mean anything cause it's a team game and cause of weak defence and cause of you being a Patriots fan and blah blah (subsequently this all doesn't apply in the regular season tho? no?)


Give me a fucking break you jokers.


You disregard the playoffs because he's never been as good in the playoffs as the regular season. You won't admit it though. If Manning was boss in the playoffs, you'd be all over how great his play in big games is......you'd be lying if you say you wouldn't.

 

[Archer]

I love how quickly you Manning homers are to disregard the BIG GAMES of his career because his play wasn't up to his regular season standings.


Manning is the GOAT cause he can thrash the previously weak AFC South year in and year out, but when it comes to the playoff.....wait no....playoffs don't mean anything cause it's a team game and cause of weak defence and cause of you being a Patriots fan and blah blah (subsequently this all doesn't apply in the regular season tho? no?)


Give me a fucking break you jokers.


You disregard the playoffs because he's never been as good in the playoffs as the regular season. You won't admit it though. If Manning was boss in the playoffs, you'd be all over how great his play in big games is......you'd be lying if you say you wouldn't.

We play the south 6 out of 16 games in the regular season . You're saying he only has 6 good games per season? LOL .

 

[Houston]

Please, you want to discredit his GOAT status based on 15 specific games out of the 181 games he has played in. Again: child, please.

I'm with this cat.

 

[MrBill]

Please, you want to discredit his GOAT status based on 15 specific games out of the 181 games he has played in. Again: child, please.

It's the exact same way with Favre. A handful of games over his entire career are what the haters hang on to make out like he doesn't even belong in the GOAT discussion.

 

[Archer]

While adding onto this

Manning in his 2008 MVP season

V the AFC South

1,465 Yards 11td 5int 99.9 P/R

Outside of Division

2,537 Yards 16td 7int 92.5 P/R


2004 MVP Season

V the AFC South

1,885 Yards 17td 5int 121.2 P/R

Outside of Division

2,672 Yards 32td 5int 121.1 P/R



2003 MVP Season

V the AFC South

1,453 Yards 9td 4int 94.0 P/R

Outside of Division

2,814 yards 20td 6int 101.8 P/R

 

[JeremyHight]

Please, you want to discredit his GOAT status based on 15 specific games out of the 181 games he has played in. Again: child, please.

So you are telling me his performance against the hands down best teams in the NFL that year should be set aside to see how he did against the Cincinatti's and Detroit's of the NFL? Since when did we judge how good QBs were based on how muh they blew out Houston by as opposed to how they did against New England or Pittsburgh when everything is on the line?

 

[Woy]

We play the south 6 out of 16 games in the regular season . You're saying he only has 6 good games per season? LOL .

2008 - Titans 13-3, Colts 12-4
2007 - Colts 12-4, Jaguars 11-5, Titans 10-6
2005 - Colts 14-2, Jaguars 12-4
2004 - Colts 12-4, Jaguars 9-7
2003 - Colts 12-4, Titans 12-4
2002 - Titans 11-5, Colts 10-6

Unlike some other divisions (AFC/NFC West), the Colts usually have at least one team in their division that is competing for the crown. He just beats the AFC South because he's that good, not because the division is weak (besides Houston, who haven't posed a threat to them yet).

 

[Senser81]

I'm with this cat.

I thought Lefty34 was white?

 

[Houston]

So you are telling me his performance against the hands down best teams in the NFL that year should be set aside to see how he did against the Cincinatti's and Detroit's of the NFL? Since when did we judge how good QBs were based on how muh they blew out Houston by as opposed to how they did against New England or Pittsburgh when everything is on the line?

hey hey hey leave Houston out of this.

 

[killgod]

Please, you want to discredit his GOAT status based on 15 specific games out of the 181 games he has played in. Again: child, please.

You do know there's GOAT candidate's that have shown excellence when the pressure is upon them to deliver, right? Not just in the regular season, right?


Then again, I'm aruging with a bunch of Colt fans, some admitting to not knowing football prior to his career, disregarding his playoff game performance as IRRELEVANT on the basis of his defense sucking, so this is a waste of fucking time.



John Elway > Peyton Manning.
Joe Montana > Peyton Manning.
Johnny Unitas > Peyton Manning


There's still time, but that trio is still beyond Manning if you don't have your fucking homer glasses on.


You guys can continue to suck each other off over this but I'm not the one boasting an above average playoff QB that plays for my own team as the GOAT.

Peace out to this shit.

 

[I LastWish I]

Dan Marino hands down. What other NFL QB has been in a movie with Jim Carey?

 

[Archer]

You do know there's GOAT candidate's that have shown excellence when the pressure is upon them to deliver, right? Not just in the regular season, right?


Then again, I'm aruging with a bunch of Colt fans, some admitting to not knowing football prior to his career, disregarding his playoff game performance as IRRELEVANT on the basis of his defense sucking, so this is a waste of fucking time.



John Elway > Peyton Manning.
Joe Montana > Peyton Manning.
Johnny Unitas > Peyton Manning


There's still time, but that trio is still beyond Manning if you don't have your fucking homer glasses on.


You guys can continue to suck each other off over this but I'm not the one boasting an above average playoff QB that plays for my own team as the GOAT.

Peace out to this shit.

Don't you have incorrect comments to be making?

Manning is the GOAT cause he can thrash the previously weak AFC South year in and year out,

 

[Houston]

John Elway > Peyton Manning.
Joe Montana > Peyton Manning.
Johnny Unitas > Peyton Manning

Only thing is Peyton Manning is still playing and has some more years left to get under his belt.



It'll only get better.

 

[killgod]

Can't help myself

...because those games only account for about 8% of his career. It's not right to discredit a player or what he has done because of a percentage (and sample size) that small, just as it would be wrong to use a sample size that small to say that a player is great or is the best.

Maybe because those 8% of games held far more importance than the other 92%?

Maybe because fantasy football championships he might have won you don't count for anything in the NFL?

Maybe because post season success > regular season success? Not just Wins, but actually PEFORMING at a high level? A level ELITE players would perform at when it matters most?

Don't you have incorrect comments to be making?

I was incorrect in saying Manning thrashed the AFC South? He didn't?

You're the one that expanded that sentence and suggested I meant he was only good in 6 games per year. I didn't say that did I? I generalized he dominates in a softer division, didn't comment on anything else or suggest anything else. You're the one putting words in my mouth and calling me incorrect.

But this invalidates everything else I've said?

Gotta love forum poster logic.

Even if you could find something wrong, it means everything else must be wrong.





Do any of you Colt fans have a legitmate argument as to why he's greater than guys who can SHOW UP in January? Outside of "the colts defence sucks", "rings mean nothing", "regular season dominace > all" or "I only know football since 96"..........or any other illogical BS?