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Firmware Update 3.15 allowing the ability to transfer files between consoles?

This would be an awesome feature if I could get my launch 60GB to even turn on. I've got the yellow light deal. I guess I'll pick up a "slim" in the next couple of days.

"PS3, don't make me hate you like the 360 made me hate it!!!"
 
This would be an awesome feature if I could get my launch 60GB to even turn on. I've got the yellow light deal. I guess I'll pick up a "slim" in the next couple of days.

"PS3, don't make me hate you like the 360 made me hate it!!!"

Same brother, im out of town and i didnt bring my ps3 to dl the update but man about damn time for this..... just too late after i already cleared my dead ps3's hard drive.

Thanks for the info though twigg.
 
Just so you dont waste your time...all those PSP minis suck. The indie games on xbox for $1.00 are better then some of those games.
 
It's out already? I take it it's not a mandatory update as it hasn't asked me to download it before I sign in.
I was wondering the same thing. When I turned on my wife's PS3 it was a mandatory update but for me it wasn't. Weird.
Not surprising really. PSN games in general suck compared to the games offered on XBL.

You must be joking. I think you're in the minority with that opinion.

XBLA had the summer of arcade (including Shadow Complex which was amazing) and Zombie Apocalypse but besides that they haven't had shit in ages.

PS3 has had:
Gravity Crash
Pixel Junk Shooter
Flower
The Last Guy
Trine
Punisher
Fat Princess
Shatter
Pixel Junk Eden
Trash Panic
Pixel Junk Monsters
Wheel of Fortune
Jeopardy
Burn Zombie Burn
Rag Doll Kung Fu
Magic Ball
GTI Club
Crash Commando
Linger in Shadows
Wipeout HD
Pain
Siren
Echochrome
Everyday Shooter
Loco Rocco

If you listen to any podcast they all agree that PSN titles pretty much destoy the XBLA offerings.
 
I was wondering the same thing. When I turned on my wife's PS3 it was a mandatory update but for me it wasn't. Weird.


You must be joking. I think you're in the minority with that opinion.

XBLA had the summer of arcade (including Shadow Complex which was amazing) and Zombie Apocalypse but besides that they haven't had shit in ages.

PS3 has had:
Gravity Crash
Pixel Junk Shooter
Flower
The Last Guy
Trine
Punisher
Fat Princess
Shatter
Pixel Junk Eden
Trash Panic
Pixel Junk Monsters
Wheel of Fortune
Jeopardy
Burn Zombie Burn
Rag Doll Kung Fu
Magic Ball
GTI Club
Crash Commando
Linger in Shadows
Wipeout HD
Pain
Siren
Echochrome
Everyday Shooter
Loco Rocco

If you listen to any podcast they all agree that PSN titles pretty much destoy the XBLA offerings.
Im not joking even a little bit. You are adding in games like Rag Doll Kung Fu? Are you fucking kidding? I downloaded that game for free because of that week it was part of some promotion and it wasnt worth the time to download. Echochrome and Fat Princess are the ONLY games even worth playing on that list. Shadow Complex and Geometry Wars alone destroy pretty much everything PSN has to offer imo. I could make a list too, but that doesnt mean all of the games are good.

BTW, I havent heard a podcast that says PSN games are better, but honestly I dont care if they do. I have my OWN opinion and it isnt formed from what other people think.
 
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Im not joking even a little bit. You are adding in games like Rag Doll Kung Fu? Are you fucking kidding? I downloaded that game for free because of that week it was part of some promotion and it wasnt worth the time to download. Echochrome and Fat Princess are the ONLY games even worth playing on that list. Shadow Complex and Geometry Wars alone destroy pretty much everything PSN has to offer imo. I could make a list too, but that doesnt mean all of the games are good.

BTW, I havent heard a podcast that says PSN games are better, but honestly I dont care if they do. I have my OWN opinion and it isnt formed from what other people think.

Exactly. So does Twigg and his feelings are like a good majority of others too. Sure, not everyone is gonna like all or even most of the games, but a vast amount do. And I actually found Rag Doll Kung Fu to be quite entertaining...but that's my OWN opinion.
 
Im not saying Twigg shouldnt have that opinion, but in almost every post he makes about his opinion he "backs it up" by saying that "all the podcasts" think the same thing. I never hear said podcasts, but its almost like he needs someone to validate his opinion.

3 of the top downloadable games (based on ratings) this year are from XBL and I only like one of them. Im not going to turn around and use that as a basis for my arument because reviewers liked them.
 
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Exactly. So does Twigg and his feelings are like a good majority of others too. Sure, not everyone is gonna like all or even most of the games, but a vast amount do. And I actually found Rag Doll Kung Fu to be quite entertaining...but that's my OWN opinion.

Virix just doesn't like me, and that's fine. That's his opinion. He hasn't liked me since he tried calling me out for my multiple broken 360's way back in the day and I proved him completely wrong. Fuck him.

Oh, and Virix, one of the main podcasts I'm referring to is Giant Bomb which is easily one of the top rated gaming podcasts on itunes. And they play a majority, if not all multi-platform games, on 360, so it's not like they are biased.

Where is this list of Top Download games? Not that it matters though because of course XBLA games will be at the top because there are way many 360 owners than PS3. Just because a lot of people download them doesn't make them good.
 
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Go suduko (know i spelt that wrong) super stardust HD astro tripper are some pretty dam good games I found on PSN too, not to mention a lot of the games XBL has PSN also has.
 
Virix just doesn't like me, and that's fine. That's his opinion. He hasn't liked me since he tried calling me out for my multiple broken 360's way back in the day and I proved him completely wrong. Fuck him.

Oh, and Virix, one of the main podcasts I'm referring to is Giant Bomb which is easily one of the top rated gaming podcasts on itunes. And they play a majority, if not all multi-platform games, on 360, so it's not like they are biased.

Where is this list of Top Download games? Not that it matters though because of course XBLA games will be at the top because there are way many 360 owners than PS3. Just because a lot of people download them doesn't make them good.
LOL @ the "he doesnt like me" bit. Dont flatter yourself. I dont give two fucks about you either way. The fact is, a podcast doesnt change my opinion. I own both systems and try a majority of the downloadable games offered and its not even close when comparing the games imo. Posting a list of what you think is good change my opinion.

You are the same person that bitches and moans about the advertisements on XBL, yet you ignore the fact that when you turn on your PS3 it shows you what is new to download by default. Scroll over to Movies or Games and what do you see? Ads, and much more of them. I dont think its a big deal on either system, but you get your panties in a bunch about one and not the other? BTW, dont even try the "but PSN is free!" bullshit. XBL has remained the same price for over 6 years. If ad dollars are keeping it that way, whats the big deal? Its not like it takes more than 1/2 a second to scroll past them.

You also go on about how useless avatars are, and I agree. But I have yet to see you talk about what a HUGE waste of resources HOME is. XBL released a retarded christmas sweater prop that you were quick to bash. Where's your bashing of the downloadable christmas decorations you can buy for Home? Is it not just as worthless?

It just seems to me that even though you own a 360 or two, you are so quick to bitch about it (or XBL) yet tolerate the same thing on PSN.

You are quite the hypocritical prick, and I think your rant about video game pirates then admitting you download PSN games using someone elses info proved that.

Go suduko (know i spelt that wrong) super stardust HD astro tripper are some pretty dam good games I found on PSN too, not to mention a lot of the games XBL has PSN also has.

Im just talking about games exclusive to XBL/PSN. Stuff like Shadow Complex, Geometry Wars, Trials HD etc.
 
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i think when it comes to old classic games psn has better games. final fantasy 7 + resident evil 1/2 > all. i havent downloaded many original games from either xbl or psn but shadow complex has been by far my favorite
 
You are quite the hypocritical prick, and I think your rant about video game pirates then admitting you download PSN games using someone elses info proved that.
Ok, if you want to get back on this we can. Pirating a $60 disc game is different than 'sharing' a game on PSN. The only reason I was doing that was because the chiey Sony guy (Tretton) was promoting it. I hadn't heard anything since saying it was unscrupulous or against Sony's agreement terms. But then you made a good point and I started doing research. I still haven't seen anything definitive either way but you better believe I'll never share again.

But to differentiate between sharing and stealing. With any downloadable game you are basically renting it. You never actually own it, you just own the right to play it. By me 'sharing' a game it's no different than borrowing a game from a buddy. You can't borrow a downloaded game. And, just in case you're wondering, I've only shared game with three people and they are all close friends, no random dudes on the internet.

Whereas downloading a torrent file from the internet and burning it to a disc is nowhere near the same thing.

As far as Home? I've said it before it's a huge flop. I have visited it a few times and the few times I have it's been cool but nowhere near enough people use it and it's really just a time waster. Those no real reason to interact with it.

I alos love how you say "Don't even start with Well Xbox charges and Sony is FREE" bullshit. Guess what, that is the single and ONLY reason I think all the ads on Live are bullshit. My only argument about it was that Silver members should be subjected to all that shit. Yes, PSN does have plenty of ads but it is free. How else can they keep it up with out ad dollars? Not only does M$ charge you but they are also receiving probably millions from ads.

And this whole 'debate' started because you made what many could easily describe as a pretentious 'end all, be all' statement of "Not surprising really, PSN games generally suck compared to XBLA." LOL. You're playing the wrong games then.

No doubt in my mind that Shadow Complex was downloadable GotY. And I even said that the Summer of Arcade was awesome. But besides that, and as a whole, PSN's offering have been more solid, creative and just damn good.

I can't even remember the last time there has been a good XBLA game since the summer.
 
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Ok, if you want to get back on this we can. Pirating a $60 disc game is different than 'sharing' a game on PSN. The only reason I was doing that was because the chiey Sony guy (Tretton) was promoting it. I hadn't heard anything since saying it was unscrupulous or against Sony's agreement terms. But then you made a good point and I started doing research. I still haven't seen anything definitive either way but you better believe I'll never share again.

But to differentiate between sharing and stealing. With any downloadable game you are basically renting it. You never actually own it, you just own the right to play it. By me 'sharing' a game it's no different than borrowing a game from a buddy. You can't borrow a downloaded game. And, just in case you're wondering, I've only shared game with three people and they are all close friends, no random dudes on the internet.

Whereas downloading a torrent file from the internet and burning it to a disc is nowhere near the same thing.

As far as Home? I've said it before it's a huge flop. I have visited it a few times and the few times I have it's been cool but nowhere near enough people use it and it's really just a time waster. Those no real reason to interact with it.

I alos love how you say "Don't even start with Well Xbox charges and Sony is FREE" bullshit. Guess what, that is the single and ONLY reason I think all the ads on Live are bullshit. My only argument about it was that Silver members should be subjected to all that shit. Yes, PSN does have plenty of ads but it is free. How else can they keep it up with out ad dollars? Not only does M$ charge you but they are also receiving probably millions from ads.

And this whole 'debate' started because you made what many could easily describe as a pretentious 'end all, be all' statement of "Not surprising really, PSN games generally suck compared to XBLA." LOL. You're playing the wrong games then.

No doubt in my mind that Shadow Complex was downloadable GotY. And I even said that the Summer of Arcade was awesome. But besides that, and as a whole, PSN's offering have been more solid, creative and just damn good.

I can't even remember the last time there has been a good XBLA game since the summer.



This is such a load of shit lol. Now you are just "sharing" the game by not paying for the right to play it? The only way developers get paid for their work is people paying for it. You can play the semantics role if you want, but no matter if you own the game or are just paying for the right to play, YOU DIDNT PAY FOR THE RIGHT TO PLAY THE GAME yet you are playing it. That is stealing and by your own definition, you are no better than a smackhead robbing an old lady so they can afford the next hit.

There is a HUGE difference between logging in on someones account to download a game without paying for it and borrowing a game. When you buy a game at a store, you are paying for that ONE disc. If you decide to lend that game to someone, it doesnt matter because there is still only ONE person with the disc at a time. ONE game was paid for, and ONE game is being played. Thats quite a bit different than paying once, then multiplying the people benefiting from the purchase by 5.

A little common sense would say that even when Tritton said you could share the games (before the system was even out) he cant speak for other developers. If he wants to tell you to steal first party Sony games, thats within his right. But there is no way in hell that 3rd party PSN game developers will be ok with you just stealing the right to play their game without paying for it.

Ill say the same thing I said before, it doesnt matter if its a $60 game or a $15 game, stealing is stealing.

Call it pretentious if you want, but I stand by my comment. I DO believe that XBLA games are better than PSN games, that would be why I have 50+ XBLA games and less than 10 full version PSN games.
 
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