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Hey ram29jackson...

now it is obvious someone is embellishing / falsifying my posts. Another foolish tactic by time wasters on the Internet. A very childish practice.
 
Alright, so I figured I'd do everyone a favor. I just wasted about 20 minutes of my life lol'ing my way through this thread, and I figured I'd post a quick synopsis.

Ram29Jackson: Mark Sanchez sucks because the league isn't anything like it was when my second-cousin on my mom's side Harold Jackson was playing. Granted, he only played 2 games for the Rams, but we'll claim credit for him. About the same as a Colts fan saying they drafted John Elway, ya'know?

Timmy: Plenty of crafty stats and quotes.

Ram29Jackson: Look here son, I been living and breathing in this world for a long while; I've been watching the NFL since before it was even drawn up and I know the league well. You're just proving my point in the exact opposite way I was trying to anyways.

Timmy: Plenty of crafty stats and quotes.

Ram29Jackson: parity, parity,parity, parity, parity, young, younger than me, younger than him, harold jackson, parity, parity, parity, young, younger than me, younger than him, harold jackson, parity, parity, parity, young, younger than me, younger than him, harold jackson, parity.young, younger than me, younger than him, harold jackson.
 
No, all it proves is the quality of play in league is low. 3 rookie QBs in 2 seasons doing that well means low quality parity play in the league. Sanchez is getting into the league at the right time, so it makes him look good. Oh well, life goes on, and I will be right more than I am wrong by seasons end haha


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that was a false ignorant statement by you just now haha.

Parity is the only reason sanchez is looking this good this early.

again- it is due to parity ie starting guys that are still too young or starting guys who havent been in your teams system so nothing is consistant or perfected over time. just a bunch of free agents running around trying to learn new systems. so the quality of play is lower. Another reason why teams can win purely on defense. No offenses are together enough to be consistant. I am not saying sanchez cant or will never be good. But rating anyone that good in a weak parity era doesnt hold water for me- so to speak.

no, you see, due to the league wide parity this is good enough to do that well with a rookie QB. The Jets are one of the better teams right now in a not so good league. Defenses are winning games for teams because most team offenses arent that cohesive and are interchanged too often.

Rex Grossman was the beginning example of parity helping teams succeed where they shouldnt- he wasnt a great QB by any means

no, I do not fail. Are you just referring to QBs? it takes 11 on each side plus special teams , remember?
they call it parity for a reason- teams are not staying together for 4 year spans.

kids slang today haha-abusing the word fail haha

it proves my point- weaker teams are succeeding due to parity

Nope, I used all 11 players. I don't feel like retyping every single team I wrote, so here is the few that I still have. (Steelers got deleted somehow)

none of this disproves that teams are generally of a weaker quality. So, some teams will have success. The Steelers,Patriots and Colts are basically the only teams that get players to be motivated by a winning philosophy for prolonged periods of time. It really doesnt matter what the Browns do because the front office is so clueless that they cant buy a winner. The jets so far are just this years parity lottery winner so to speak.

haha, I have flipped flop nothing. you are trying to pigeon hole one or 2 simple factors.
there are many factors. A few teams have been able to keep pushing forward. but for the most part,parity keeps everyone fragmented. teams are winning based on momentary talent but not long term practiced execution.

this has nothing to do with philosophy. it is deductive reasoning. Parity and free agency means league wide mediocrity. Players are starting too young before learning systems and players move around so most teams dont have cohesive units.

the jets are first in a weak league

We get it. Parity.
 
Alright, so I figured I'd do everyone a favor. I just wasted about 20 minutes of my life lol'ing my way through this thread, and I figured I'd post a quick synopsis.

Ram29Jackson: Mark Sanchez sucks because the league isn't anything like it was when my second-cousin on my mom's side Harold Jackson was playing. Granted, he only played 2 games for the Rams, but we'll claim credit for him. About the same as a Colts fan saying they drafted John Elway, ya'know?

Timmy: Plenty of crafty stats and quotes.

Ram29Jackson: Look here son, I been living and breathing in this world for a long while; I've been watching the NFL since before it was even drawn up and I know the league well. You're just proving my point in the exact opposite way I was trying to anyways.

Timmy: Plenty of crafty stats and quotes.

Ram29Jackson: parity, parity,parity, parity, parity, young, younger than me, younger than him, harold jackson, parity, parity, parity, young, younger than me, younger than him, harold jackson, parity, parity, parity, young, younger than me, younger than him, harold jackson, parity.young, younger than me, younger than him, harold jackson.



crafty stats and quotes ? They do nothing to disprove my educated opinion.

you are overthinking something so easily understood.
 
crafty stats and quotes ? They do nothing to disprove my educated opinion.

you are overthinking something so easily understood.

You're educated opinion is nothing more than anyone elses opinion on this site. You remind me of another blogger who thinks they've hit it big in the world of sports.

Keep spitting your opinion out though, I need something to wipe my ass with.
 
crafty stats and quotes ? They do nothing to disprove my educated opinion.

you are overthinking something so easily understood.

What the fuck is there to overthink? He's either a good player, or he's not. All signs point to yes; he hasn't been spectacular at the end of the day, but he's been a manager, and its led to 3 Jets victories.

Are the likes of Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees to be thought less of because of the level of competition today is so much "weaker" than it used to be?

Get the fuck out if you're gonna waste your time here old hoagie. The level of competition has never been at the scale it's at now; Team Play is evident every Sunday when I flip on CBS, and if you weren't so worried about coming up with material to criticize while you're sitting on the couch on Sunday, you would realize that.

You're wasting our time, and more importantly, you're wasting your time.
 
What the fuck is there to overthink? He's either a good player, or he's not. All signs point to yes; he hasn't been spectacular at the end of the day, but he's been a manager, and its led to 3 Jets victories.

Are the likes of Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees to be thought less of because of the level of competition today is so much "weaker" than it used to be?

Get the fuck out if you're gonna waste your time here old hoagie. The level of competition has never been at the scale it's at now; Team Play is evident every Sunday when I flip on CBS, and if you weren't so worried about coming up with material to criticize while you're sitting on the couch on Sunday, you would realize that.

You're wasting our time, and more importantly, you're wasting your time.


game managers are second stringers. not starters.
 
Essentially, this is all ram29jackson has been saying:

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game managers are second stringers. not starters.

Quit it with the one liners, your act is getting old [no pun intended]

A Game Manager who is perhaps 35 shouldn't be a starter. This kid is fresh out of school, and 3 games into his first football season? You really gonna make a call right now about whether or not he'll pan out? Hell, all signs point to him having a 19-0 record this year as a starter.

3-0, especially in a league like this today, is impressive. It's even more impressive to go 3-0 with a rookie quarterback.

You're opinion stays the same, but your idiotic side continually finds ways to make you look like even more of a fool than before. I don't understand what you're trying to prove here, but the only one you're impressing is the one sitting at home in his computer chair with a beer in his boxers.
 
What the fuck is there to overthink? He's either a good player, or he's not. All signs point to yes; he hasn't been spectacular at the end of the day, but he's been a manager, and its led to 3 Jets victories.

Are the likes of Peyton Manning, Tom Brady, and Drew Brees to be thought less of because of the level of competition today is so much "weaker" than it used to be?

Get the fuck out if you're gonna waste your time here old hoagie. The level of competition has never been at the scale it's at now; Team Play is evident every Sunday when I flip on CBS, and if you weren't so worried about coming up with material to criticize while you're sitting on the couch on Sunday, you would realize that.

You're wasting our time, and more importantly, you're wasting your time.

The level of play is easier now? Anyone playing now has been in an NFL full of parity, so all the players now are weaker? Manning and Brady aren't going to be looked at as some of the best QB because the competition is weaker now? You're alone in that boat, because not even some incompetent sportscaster would agree with you.

By the way, http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JackHa00.htm

Harold Jackson was mediocre. No where near the best ever.


I will agree with you Rex Grossman had no business being in a Super Bowl, but neither did Trent Dilfer. Defense got those teams there. I don't think you can find anyone to argue that Rex Grossman was a great QB.
 
The level of play is easier now? Anyone playing now has been in an NFL full of parity, so all the players now are weaker? Manning and Brady aren't going to be looked at as some of the best QB because the competition is weaker now? You're alone in that boat, because not even some incompetent sportscaster would agree with you.

By the way, http://www.pro-football-reference.com/players/J/JackHa00.htm

Harold Jackson was mediocre. No where near the best ever.


I will agree with you Rex Grossman had no business being in a Super Bowl, but neither did Trent Dilfer. Defense got those teams there. I don't think you can find anyone to argue that Rex Grossman was a great QB.

I never said he was best ever. He was by no means mediocre.
I never said level of players is weaker. I said no cohesive units translate to not a high qualiity of execution. So, youll get rookie QBs doing better than they would be in a more competative league. Parity means weakness all the way around, not strength.

manning and brady are great QBs but their stats are bloated due to weaker competion and rules that favor the passing game.
 
Quit it with the one liners, your act is getting old [no pun intended]

A Game Manager who is perhaps 35 shouldn't be a starter. This kid is fresh out of school, and 3 games into his first football season? You really gonna make a call right now about whether or not he'll pan out? Hell, all signs point to him having a 19-0 record this year as a starter.

3-0, especially in a league like this today, is impressive. It's even more impressive to go 3-0 with a rookie quarterback.

You're opinion stays the same, but your idiotic side continually finds ways to make you look like even more of a fool than before. I don't understand what you're trying to prove here, but the only one you're impressing is the one sitting at home in his computer chair with a beer in his boxers.



its only impressive if one rookie QB does that well in a few seasons. Not 3 rookies in the last 2 years. that many rookie QBs should not be doing that well that often.
 
its only impressive if one rookie QB does that well in a few seasons. Not 3 rookies in the last 2 years. that many rookie QBs should not be doing that well that often.

Why not? where is the book of rules saying they can't? maybe three special qbs have came along and that's just how it is? As far as you and I know , we could be looking at the next Joe Montana , Peyton Manning and Dan Marino ten years down the line .

The league is stronger than it ever was , it's just the talent is more spread out than ever now . You can't keep the same team every year like you could back in the day so the same powerhouses aren't dominating and keeping all the talent . The league has never had better , faster and/or smarter players than it has now . And that was a quote from Rod Woodson , not me .

You are like 80 year old man who is living in his old ways .... just because rookies have never done this well in the past does not mean that's how it HAS to be .
 
Why not? where is the book of rules saying they can't? maybe three special qbs have came along and that's just how it is? As far as you and I know , we could be looking at the next Joe Montana , Peyton Manning and Dan Marino ten years down the line .

The league is stronger than it ever was , it's just the talent is more spread out than ever now . You can't keep the same team every year like you could back in the day so the same powerhouses aren't dominating and keeping all the talent . The league has never had better , faster and/or smarter players than it has now . And that was a quote from Rod Woodson , not me .

You are like 80 year old man who is living in his old ways .... just because rookies have never done this well in the past does not mean that's how it HAS to be .

They never legalized the forward pass while he was our age.
 
joe cool, johnny U, dan marino... all succeeded as rookies. the rookie who goes to a bad team fails, IE david carr, troy aikman (dallas was rebuilding), elway. good teams provide support and since free agency makes it so a team can gather talent they can build a team and then get a qb, just like the ravens, and jets did. the falcons got a bit lucky, but matty ice is kinda nice.
 
joe cool, johnny U, dan marino... all succeeded as rookies. the rookie who goes to a bad team fails, IE david carr, troy aikman (dallas was rebuilding), elway. good teams provide support and since free agency makes it so a team can gather talent they can build a team and then get a qb, just like the ravens, and jets did. the falcons got a bit lucky, but matty ice is kinda nice.
So quarterbacks do better on good teams than bad ones?

NBC needs to hire you ASAP.
 
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