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Is Andy Reid The Most Overrated Coach?

All the talk this year was about protecting Vick, getting him through a 16 game season, then in Game 1 he drops him back 60+ times!!! It's mind numbing..

It's not like Lesean McCoy was averaging like 10 YPC in the second half or anything. The Eagles should have blown the doors off Cleveland and they almost lost. Reid had a good run but I watched Mike Shanahan squander talent here for years after he won his Super Bowls and ever since Reid made the big game he really hasn't had all that much success. If Vick doesn't play on an otherworldly level two seasons ago Reid is fired for hitching his team's wagon to Kevin Kolb IMO.
 
I disagree that he "should" have won. There's never just one great team, there's a bunch. Same goes for most sports in North America. Teams have strong runs but just don't have the pieces fall their way to win a title. It happens.

I'm not saying you should be happy without a title, but to keep perspective on how many chances you've had compared to many teams who haven't sniffed shit in decades.

What Reid gives you is stability. He has 2 losing records in 13 seasons. You'll miss that if it goes. In a sport that constantly pushes for parity, this type of continued play is likely envied by other fan bases. You'll appreciate it more once he's gone, especially if your next coach is a dud and you shit the bed for a few years.

I have had enough stability the last 15 years. I would hope if they went another direction it would be with a proven commodity. And trust me, I know what it's like to live through bad football. I went through Marion Campbell, Rich Kotite, and the last 2 years of Ray Rhoads. I'm willing to take that chance.
 
Reid is very alike BB IMO.

Comes off as smug and dismisses criticism? Check.
Players like to play for him? Check.
Defenses have always been good? Check. (You can say last year's sucked, but lead in turnovers and made a Super Bowl..)
Lots of screens? Check.
Never addressed a position of need - LB? Check (WR)
Loves to pass? Check.
Gambles on 4th? Check.


IMO you want a coach that's like this running your club. Reid might be tired with the Eagles, but he's still the right kind of coach to have I think. BB could have just as easily lost all his Super Bowls or missed some of them. So many games on the roads these teams have taken are very close, coming down to single plays. Look at the 49ers last year, 2 plays by a rookie cost them the Super Bowl. That's not to knock Harbaugh, but that's the fine line between winning and losing at the elite level in the NFL.


This is all fine and dandy, until you get to the part about Belichick winning 3 Superbowls while making 5 total, whereas the Eagles made only one and should have made more. I'd rather have the guy who can help you win the big game.

This is why Coughlin and Shanny shit on Reid.
 
i think he is very over rated. his gameplan against cleveland was a joke. i couldnt believe he threw the ball 56 times. Mccoy was able to gain soild yards from the start, but yet Reid refused to adjust his pass happy offense even though vick was harassed all game and made bad decision after bad decision.

And that is another thing, his running backs are not to be confused with the 2003 receiving corps. The Eagles under Reid have always had damn good backfields, and he just refuses to give them the carries and balance out the offense. You aren't going to win the field position and TOP battle if you pass that many times.
 
Erase all the opinions and simply look at the numbers.
25-27 NFL teams would kill for a head coach with those numbers since 2000.

I agree Andy Reid is far from perfect and I think his pass/run ratio is more insane than mine in Madden ... but the man is a winner.
 
The Eagles beat them 4 straight games going into that game, including in the regular season that year. Not sure where you would get that from, but ok..lol.

I just made it up based on what I know of Donovan McNabb and Tampa's defense.

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well would you rather have a coach with 5 winning seasons and 5 losing seasons and 1 super bowl or a coach with 10 winning seasons and 0 super bowls?
 
I think if anything that the guy is underrated. I was having a beer with my Cardinal fan friend the other day. I was lamenting the shitty play on the defense for Green Bay, and half-joked that the team is fucking with us by not teaching their receivers how to catch the goddamn ball. My buddy lit me up and ran down the list of how there have only been 5 cardinal playoff appearances in 50 years, how year in year out Green Bay is competetive and I can always count on at least 8 and 8 ; how GB is always in the playoff discussion in the final weeks. He told me it sucks trying to get up for a team that is bad all the time and it sucks how he would be happy with mediocrity.

He'd probably suck a dick if it got them a coach as legit as Andy Reid.

The guy consistently pulls it off with smoke and mirrors. He's universally lauded for his work with quarterbacks. theres a mountain of evidence that shows that guys are good when they are playing for him, and shit elsewhere, because first and foremost he's an amazing motivator who consistently gets more with less. a "down season" is last year when people were saying things like "this is the hottest team to not be in the playoffs". I can't remember an Eagles team in the last 15 years that people started the season saying "this team blows, they've got no chance".

on top of that, I feel like the really high level play is alot of luck. When you get to the NFL playoffs, it aint like its the NBA where you get 7 games to establish the clearly superior team. You get one team and if emotion breaks one way or momentum flows another, a team you don't think has a chance will steal one. It's the very best thing about professional sports, that there is always an element of emotion and passion that can't be quantified in statistics. I am not trying to diminish the impact of skill on the matter, because I mean we pretty much all know a shitty coaching job when we've seen it (and there are 5 year olds playing Madden with better clock management than Reid). I just think its a really interesting conversation when you look at some of the recent superbowl winners and realize how lucky they were. the Minnesota Vikings were a bad pass interference call away from going to New Orleans Superbowl. If NO doesn't win that ring, Sean Payton is unemployed not suspended. Belichek was terrible in Cleveland, but has been massively successfully in New England - another guy that was 2 bad snaps/holds away from having 2 less rings.

The conversation could go on but the point is theres a thin line between championship coach and very good coach who hasnt ever won the big one. Those guys who are consistent and keep plugging away get theres eventually - Peyton Manning finally got his ring in much the same way, he didnt have alot of clutch in him, but he was consistently a superior quarterback and eventually probability took over. Reid is a guy who is going to win one as a Head Coach eventually, its just a matter of whether or not Philly gets tired of him before that happens.
 
well would you rather have a coach with 5 winning seasons and 5 losing seasons and 1 super bowl or a coach with 10 winning seasons and 0 super bowls?

I want a coach who will put his team in a position to win and be competitive every year.

Any Eagles fan who dislikes Reid or doesn't respect the job he's done is spoiled by success. He can come coach my team tomorrow.
 
This is all fine and dandy, until you get to the part about Belichick winning 3 Superbowls while making 5 total, whereas the Eagles made only one and should have made more. I'd rather have the guy who can help you win the big game.

This is why Coughlin and Shanny shit on Reid.

You're overrating the coaches. Would you be touting Coughlin if Brady drove NE to win the last Super Bowl? After that foolishly stupid fucking error from Bradshaw to score? Where was the coaching on that obvious fuck up?

C'mon now. Coaches prepare you to win, players make it happen.


Again with the "should have made more" , no, they shouldn't have. The teams they lost to were good fucking teams. There's only room for 2 teams in the Super Bowl and there's usually more than 2 that are good enough to be there.
 
Reid is a great coach, but he may have worn out his time in Philly. Not having SB rings will do this to you. The minute Reid is let go is the minute he'll have multiple teams lined up for his services. Any young QB should want to play for him, because he has made many careers.
 
Reid is a great coach, but he may have worn out his time in Philly. Not having SB rings will do this to you. The minute Reid is let go is the minute he'll have multiple teams lined up for his services. Any young QB should want to play for him, because he has made many careers.

Reid's career is somewhat similar to how Bill Cowher's was at Pittsburgh. People initially liked him, then after awhile it was like "Why aren't you winning SB titles with Neil O'Donnell, Mike Tomczack, and Kordell Stewart at QB??" When he won his SB, people then thought he was a genius...having a great QB like Ben Roethlisberger will make you smarter.
 
I want a coach who will put his team in a position to win and be competitive every year.

Any Eagles fan who dislikes Reid or doesn't respect the job he's done is spoiled by success. He can come coach my team tomorrow.

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As for my 2 cents, I think Andy's done just fine in Philly. He's worked with a lot of good teams, he just never got his team over the hump. Which I'm fine with since Philly fans are pretty horrid around these parts.
 
Reid is a great coach, but he may have worn out his time in Philly. Not having SB rings will do this to you. The minute Reid is let go is the minute he'll have multiple teams lined up for his services. Any young QB should want to play for him, because he has made many careers.

Agree with that as well. I think right now a separation for both sides is a great thing. The Eagles can start fresh while their team is still primed to succeed, and Reid will have multiple teams lined up for him and he gets a fresh start in a new city to make a Super Bowl run.
 
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As for my 2 cents, I think Andy's done just fine in Philly. He's worked with a lot of good teams, he just never got his team over the hump. Which I'm fine with since Philly fans are pretty horrid around these parts.

Jeff Fisher doesn't really fit my description. Fisher is a guy who will put you in a position to not be terrible, go 8-8 most of the time, and every now & then win double digit games and be in the elite mix.

Now, don't get me wrong. As opposed to complete and total morons like Scott Linehan & ***** *********, Fisher has a clue and is a competent head coach. The Rams will be better off as a franchise now, but if I could have Andy Reid tomorrow, I would kill Fisher and bury him in the backyard.
 
You're overrating the coaches. Would you be touting Coughlin if Brady drove NE to win the last Super Bowl? After that foolishly stupid fucking error from Bradshaw to score? Where was the coaching on that obvious fuck up?

C'mon now. Coaches prepare you to win, players make it happen.


Again with the "should have made more" , no, they shouldn't have. The teams they lost to were good fucking teams. There's only room for 2 teams in the Super Bowl and there's usually more than 2 that are good enough to be there.



..Chuck Knox...

yep, theres plenty of great coaches but sometimes what happens on the field doesnt help them

Norv Turner and Marty Sshottenheimer are great coaches like Andy Reid. Theyve seen it all. But sometimes the math doesnt work in your favor

60 minutes, 11 players on the fieldm theres only so much one man can do at any given moment.
 
Reid has won consistently despite having two of the most overrated players in NFL history playing QB for him (McNabb & Vick).

He was also directly responsible for bringing them in and staying with them. There aren't many coaches who have more of a say in personnel decisions. He buys the groceries he cooks the dinner with, so I don't want to hear what he's done without superior talent. He built the team.

I respect what he's done here and I don't dislike him. However, I think the main goal of every NFL franchise should be to win a championship. And he has not given any indication of being able to deliver one. Moving in another direction doesn't automatically mean we are going to start losing. Sounds like to me most of you see that as a foregone conclusion if he goes, which to me is kind of ridiculous.
 
I want a coach who will put his team in a position to win and be competitive every year.

Any Eagles fan who dislikes Reid or doesn't respect the job he's done is spoiled by success. He can come coach my team tomorrow.

And, frankly, if St. Louis were to hire Reid next year, he'd have that program turned around quickly. Not saying Jeff Fisher won't, but Reid definitely would.

Philly fans are naturally jaded ... and Reid's run/pass ratio drives all Eagles' fans nuts.

But, again, I couldn't name five coaches I'd take over Reid right now.
 
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