This is the equivalent of Rams boasting about picking the Giants to win the Super Bowl with four teams left. You picked a 27 year old WR to be better than a 35 year old one with a terrible work ethic? Good work.
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Johnny Manziel Wowing Them at Manning Camp
- Thread starter jeffx
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This is the equivalent of Rams boasting about picking the Giants to win the Super Bowl with four teams left. You picked a 27 year old WR to be better than a 35 year old one with a terrible work ethic? Good work.
http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_...stigating-johnny-manziel-profiting-autographs
Now the NCAA is investigating this kid....
Now the NCAA is investigating this kid....
strahanfan92
Meat
Senser81
VSN Poster of the Year
Its actually kind of funny in that Manziel cannot even sign his own name without the NCAA stepping in and claiming jurisdiction...I hope Manziel or some athlete takes the NCAA to court. If there is some type of "scholar-athlete" NCAA agreement that a player is forced to sign, I would like to see that challenged in the courts, too.
It would be like attending Texas A&M as a student, and while in college you patent some type of invention, and the NCAA steps in and says they get to take whatever money you make from your invention. The whole situation is retarded.
JimLeavy59
War Hero
"But they get a education"- NCAA shill
NAHSTE
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Refresh my memory....didn't something like this happen to Greg Anthony? When he was in college, didn't he start some kind of business, and the NCAA said no?
((cough))Dick Vitale((cough))
Glenbino
Jelly and Ice Cream
If I'm a school in the Pac 12, SEC, B1G, ACC or Big 12 then I'd be giving serious thought of trying to get out from under the NCAA umbrella.
There's no reason for these school's to have to play by the same rules as schools with a fraction of the budget especially when they have to deal with a much larger microscope on their programs despite being responsible for keeping the entire NCAA model afloat financially.
There's no reason for these school's to have to play by the same rules as schools with a fraction of the budget especially when they have to deal with a much larger microscope on their programs despite being responsible for keeping the entire NCAA model afloat financially.
NAHSTE
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They already are. Mike Slive's comments at SEC Media Day a few weeks back were almost all slanted towards eventual sec-ession. "There's gotta be a better way" was the sentiment.
I think a Big 12 school president recently made similar comments. D1 football (and basketball) needs to move away from the non-revenue sports, because there's such a gulf between their objectives, incentives and missions now.
ram29jackson
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I picked it with 8 teams left. which is more and better then anyone can say for themselves here.
how can you make fun of it ? I actually did what all of you losers claim you do. I have proof. I did it twice. I am therefore superior.
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LiquidLarry2GhostWF
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A lot of this mess with the NCAA and the guise of "amateur athletics" is just as much professional sports (in this case, the NFL). There is no viable alternative at this point other than to change the NCAA...which it needs...but there are too many damn moving parts it makes progress very slow. The NBA has at least avenues to enter professional ball...you can go overseas and play...you can play in the NBADL. Hockey has the ability to go play professionally or in the minor leagues or overseas or in college. Baseball, similarly...you can start off in the minors or go play college baseball. They have options. Football has NONE. ZERO.
As is, the NCAA needs to change up their idea of what amateur is...their definition is archaic. It is 2013...if a 19 year old can make money by doing something legal, I don't understand why the NCAA would forbid him from doing it.
If Johnny Manziel wants to acquire 1,000 8x10's, sign them, and sell them on ebay, I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed. If he wants to use his face to star in a local car dealership commercial I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed. If he wants to copyright the name "Johnny Football" and sell T-Shirts with it, I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed.
Now, should these transactions he monitored closely and strong accounting be done on each to make sure there is no dirty dealing? Yes. But restricting someone from making an income is some real commy bullshit.
As is, the NCAA needs to change up their idea of what amateur is...their definition is archaic. It is 2013...if a 19 year old can make money by doing something legal, I don't understand why the NCAA would forbid him from doing it.
If Johnny Manziel wants to acquire 1,000 8x10's, sign them, and sell them on ebay, I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed. If he wants to use his face to star in a local car dealership commercial I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed. If he wants to copyright the name "Johnny Football" and sell T-Shirts with it, I don't see why he shouldn't be allowed.
Now, should these transactions he monitored closely and strong accounting be done on each to make sure there is no dirty dealing? Yes. But restricting someone from making an income is some real commy bullshit.
I believe he was selling t-shirts or something.
http://articles.latimes.com/1991-04-23/sports/sp-680_1_progressive-images
Basically, Anthony had his teammates wearing his shirts after they beat Duke in the NC game, but UNLV had an agreement with another company to provide shirts. So, Anthony was messing around with UNLV's ends.
this reminds me of when AJ Green was suspended for 4 games for selling his bowl jersey
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5585220
http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=5585220
NAHSTE
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Don't forget that the UGA team shop was at that same time selling a game worn AJ Green jersey for auction.
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ryne candy
Aggie C/O '01
If it's true....as the rules are now, I would be pissed but wouldn't be crying over him getting kicked out (personally). I'm laughing to this 1 UT fan (Tshirt fan) saying if it was a UT guy, he doesnt think UT fans would be supporting their guy. I'm sure there are plenty of Aggies that are blinded by the success we had and him doing the unthinkable (winning Heisman). When A&M moved to the SEC and had success, they had to know that the school would have bad light shed upon them; fans/students shouldn't be complaining about how everyone is out to get A&M. People calling him Leaf 2.0 are absurd...I only hear people debating if Johnny will be drafted AT ALL.
edit: UT fan was on local radio
edit: UT fan was on local radio
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We all agree that the NCAA shouldn't be controlling what a player can earn off of their name, but given his stature Manziel has to know better than to do this. For the NCAA this is low hanging fruit............hopefully for Manziel, A&M and college football fans the NCAA handles this like they did the Cam Newton situation when the NCAA responded swiftly and let him remain eligible for the SEC championship game. The NCAA will probably realize that having Manziel play this year will earn them much money than to have him sit.