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[PC] Leftwich's PC Build (Stage 1)

I'm going to take the next couple of months to slowly build a gaming computer. Haven't built one since i was like 17 but my estimated date of completion is February 1st 2013... hopefully the world doesn't end before then. Anyway, i will keep you guys updated and answer all the questions or comments you have. It'd be nice to have some recommendations from leaf.
if you wait that long to get it done; some of the parts may already be "out dated", lol.

but if time & budget is limited; and your current one is way way way old....then i guess it would make sense regardless.

i have been trying to justify spending another $1500+ to build a new gaming/app PC but i dont play World of Warcraft anymore so........
 
if you wait that long to get it done; some of the parts may already be "out dated", lol.

but if time & budget is limited; and your current one is way way way old....then i guess it would make sense regardless.

i have been trying to justify spending another $1500+ to build a new gaming/app PC but i dont play World of Warcraft anymore so........

If you're just playing WoW, you don't need to spend near that much.
 
Agree with Maynard on a few points...

For one, $2k will get you a smokin machine. Not elite top end stuff, but good enough to play anything on max settings. As long as you don't splurge on something ridiculous, like an $800 case or an expensive liquid cooling kit, you can do it for less even.

Targeting a build similar to Maynard's is not a bad idea at all. Its not too far from what I did. Built mine about 18 months ago. Exact same case. Lesser Intel chip (I have the i5-2500K) and even a step down from the 2700, it does everything I need and more. I don't have an SSD, which is a pretty worthwhile investment. I spent about $2k but splurged on two monitors, extra fans, a decent trackball, and a mechanical keyboard. Unnecessary stuff but I like it.

There is one downside to buying it in pieces and then building it later, which is the possibility of faulty pieces. Most pieces of PC hardware can only be returned for refund or exchange within a certain period. Some you can test for functionality and some you really can't. So if you buy parts and sit on them for six months, you can end up having a no option if something is DOA. Not a massive risk, but still a risk.
 
My build will cost me around $900. I'm probably going to start buying parts this weekend as long as there is good deals.
 
Got my monitor and case. Probably within the next couple of weeks i'll finish getting everything.

Do wanna know the benefit of the SSD before i get one.
 
Got my monitor and case. Probably within the next couple of weeks i'll finish getting everything.

Do wanna know the benefit of the SSD before i get one.

From what I understand, an SSD will give you incredibly fast load times for everything. SSD prices are steadily going down, so you might be able to find a decently sized and priced SSD to use as your main hard drive. What I've seen a lot of people do, though, is get a big enough SSD to put your OS and some games on, and then get a huge HDD for pictures/movies/music/etc.
 
From what I understand, an SSD will give you incredibly fast load times for everything. SSD prices are steadily going down, so you might be able to find a decently sized and priced SSD to use as your main hard drive. What I've seen a lot of people do, though, is get a big enough SSD to put your OS and some games on, and then get a huge HDD for pictures/movies/music/etc.

This is exactly what to do for a new build. My PC boots up Windows 7 in seconds.
 
ssd times are phenominal compared to sata drives. i have a 128 gb ssd and a 1 tb sata. i use the ssd for all my program files (windows, chrome, misc installed programs) and games that are installed. again, the speed is incredible compared to a sata.

W7 takes 12-15 seconds to load...thats from when i push the power button until all start up programs are up and running. A restart take 30 seconds. When playing games it is even more noticable.

The prices are dropping super fast. the 128 gb samsung i bought was about 250 and is now 130.

when buying, there are 2 that really stood out from the rest...the Crucial M4 and the Samsungs. This was me doing extensive research on reliability and speeds.

Also, use this guide when installing Windows with an SSD. extremely valueable

http://www.overclock.net/t/1156654/seans-windows-7-install-optimization-guide-for-ssds-hdds/0_20
 
I highly recommend going to microcenter in Fairfax to look at prices before you buy anything. They have the best prices of anywhere including new egg by far

I know, i plan on getting out there some time this week.

On another note i got my monitor and case today. I expect to order everything within the next couple of weeks.
 
Alright thus far i have purchased:

Case:
APEVIA X-SUPRA G-Type X-SUPRAG-BL Black / Blue SECC Steel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811144218

Monitor:
ASUS VH232H Glossy Black 23" 5ms Widescreen Full HD 1080p LCD Monitor 300 cd/m2 ASCR 20000:1 w/Speakers & HDMI
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824236079

HDD:
Seagate Barracuda ST2000DM001 2TB 7200 RPM 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148834

DVD Burner:
SAMSUNG DVD Burner 24X DVD+R 8X DVD+RW 8X DVD+R DL 24X DVD-R 6X DVD-RW 16X DVD-ROM 48X CD-R 24X CD-RW 48X CD-ROM SATA Model SH-224BB - OEM
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827151256

CPU Cooler:
ZALMAN CNPS9500A-LED 92mm 2 Ball CPU Cooler
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835118223

Keyboard:
Rosewill RK-100 Black 107 Normal Keys USB Standard Keyboard
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16823201028

Mouse:
Microsoft L2 Wireless Mouse 2000 36D-00013 Tilt Wheel USB RF Wireless BlueTrack Mouse
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826105550

Surge Protector:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812120403

Wire management is gonna be a nightmare but i don't really care cause its not like i'm showing this thing off to everyone. Going to get the processor i want from Microcenter cause they have a hell of a deal on the one i'm looking at along with a motherboard combo deal. Skimped on the keyboard and mouse cause they don't fucking matter. And i know the CPU cooler works for the CPU i'm looking at.
 
some food for thought.

2 tb hard drive is nice and roomy. but what if it fails? you might think about a two 1 tb drives just for peice of mind. Looking at reviews and research im sure you can see the failure rate on hard drives makes any hd risky

nice case, but like you said, no cable management. the top mounted psu might be a problem too. it also doesnt list having any USB 3.0 ports. 3.0 is twice as fast and having a front mounted 3.0 port is gold. you mobo will probably have rear mounted, but that might be a bitch depending on where you locate the tower. looks like a great value for what you get and paid

that m/kb you bought. you can probably find a wireless combo for the same price. check this link
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...SpeTabStoreType=&AdvancedSearch=1&srchInDesc=

check you heatsink fan specs. makes sure the side door on your case will close. something people forget is the space of the mobo, then the added length the cpu fan adds...plus your case has a side fan right in the area of the heatsink fan. just be sure to check the dimensions.

if you use newegg dont forget to sign up for the shoprunner free trial for 30 days. just about everything is free 2 day shipping. i have had mine since jan of 2012. it keeps getting extended. i just got another email extending it for all of 2013....i never paid a dime to use it
 
a better question is what the hell do you need 16GB for? You're not going to see any noticeable performance improvements from 8 to 16GB really. Unless your goal is to not have a swap file, then you could achieve that with 16GB. I suppose if you have a plan for it, go get it, but if there's no rhyme or reason for going up to 16, I think it's wasteful.

I'd save the money on the excess RAM and get a SSD boot drive or a 2nd HDD to mirror the one you got instead.
 
basically it was a cost issue and i felt like 8 was more than enough for my needs. 16 still feels like overkill to me, but i like having the option to go up to 32 if i ever need to.

i can do anything i want with 8gb. gaming, video, mass browser tabs ect. i have never come close to pushing the limits.

i had this link in my bookmarks. its an article on ram and what to get.
http://www.zdnet.com/blog/hardware/how-much-ram-do-i-need/17491
 
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