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All things considered, that Rice catch and run to convert 4th and 29 was probably the biggest play in Ravens recent history. With games coming up against Pitt, @Wash, Denver, NYG, and @Cin, they could absolutely not afford to lose this game and still expect to get a bye. They now not only keep pace with the other AFC division leaders but they've opened a three game lead on the Steelers with five to play, and seems unlikely that they'll be caught at this point, especially given the Steelers increasing injuries.

Also, the Chargers can be grouped with the Cowboys as the biggest chokers/underachievers in the league. But I don't put a ton of blame on Norv for today. Norv wasn't calling the defense that dropped 7 guys 40 yards downfield and letting Rice get a head of steam, then missing multiple tackles to allow him to convert. Chargers had no business losing that game at that point and the Ravens had no business winning it. Still can't believe it...
 
So much for the packers looking like the best team in the NFC. Every top NFC team has now been slapped around at least once.

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Eat it Tacks.
 
So much for the packers looking like the best team in the NFC. Every top NFC team has now been slapped around at least once.

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Very odd year in the NFC. And just like last year the team that will be the #1 seed will most likely be one and done.
 
This is not an excuse for losing vs Giants. They whooped our asses and were obviously the better team tonight.

With that said:

Brian Bulaga
Derrick Sherrod
Greg Jennings
Donald Driver
Cedric Benson
Charles Woodson
Sam Shields
Clay Matthews
DJ Smith
Desmond Bishop
Nick Perry
Erik Walden

Packers starters that did not play due to injury vs. Giants


Also lost C.J. Wilson and M.D. Jennings in tonight's game. Please just get a couple more wins and then forfeit the rest of the games just so there are guys able to suit up in the playoffs.
 
I didn't realize that the Packers were the only team with important injuries (also, how many of those were important a week ago when the Pack were the favorite to win the NFC?)
 
I didn't realize that the Packers were the only team with important injuries (also, how many of those were important a week ago when the Pack were the favorite to win the NFC?)

Please give me a team that can even compare to massive amount of important injuries the Packers have. The injuries have been a problem for several weeks. Packers looked terrible against the Lions. I haven't heard the Packers being the favorite since very early in the season btw.
 
Please give me a team that can even compare to massive amount of important injuries the Packers have. The injuries have been a problem for several weeks. Packers looked terrible against the Lions. I haven't heard the Packers being the favorite since very early in the season btw.

Well, you haven't been on this site then. Most were calling them the team to beat in the NFC, and even ESPN going into this game described the Packers as "Hot" and the Giants as "Not". I am not here to argue which team has the injury bug worse, I never said that. I just was curious what injuries on the "Hot" Packers came about in the last week. You know, to make them so susceptible to being whipped by the swooning Giants.

If you haven't heard about the Pack being favorites, I don't know what to tell you.
 
Well, you haven't been on this site then. Most were calling them the team to beat in the NFC, and even ESPN going into this game described the Packers as "Hot" and the Giants as "Not". I am not here to argue which team has the injury bug worse, I never said that. I just was curious what injuries on the "Hot" Packers came about in the last week.

If you haven't heard about the Pack being favorites, I don't know what to tell you.

Go look at the thread. Only people that picked the Pack as the favorites were Packers fans and they still were behind the 49ers, Bears, and Giants in voting by a wide margin. And since when does Hot vs Not = Favorite to win the NFC? Again, injuries have been a big issue for weeks. Luckily for us, we were able to face some weaker competition.

LOL at commenting on the important injuries and then completely backing off.


EDIT: Falcons had triple the votes also.
 
Go look at the thread. Only people that picked the Pack as the favorites were Packers fans and they still were behind the 49ers, Bears, and Giants in voting by a wide margin. And since when does Hot vs Not = Favorite to win the NFC? Again, injuries have been a big issue for weeks. Luckily for us, we were able to face some weaker competition.

LOL at commenting on the important injuries and then completely backing off.


EDIT: Falcons had triple the votes also.

I'm not backing off, but you're acting like the "important injuries" weren't there going into this week. I figured that was a moot point.

I don't believe that the Giants are "stiff" competition, because I think pretty much all of the NFL stinks. You are the one that seems to think that injuries are the reason the Pack lost to the Giants (otherwise, why would you bring it up, despite the "this isn't why 'we' lost" routine). I think that despite you rattling off a bunch of injured dudes names, it doesn't really matter. A lot of teams have important injuries. Doing a comparison is stupid in today's NFL, because the backup RB in today's game could be the next Adrian Peterson.
 
I'm not backing off, but you're acting like the "important injuries" weren't there going into this week. I figured that was a moot point.

I don't believe that the Giants are "stiff" competition, because I think pretty much all of the NFL stinks. You are the one that seems to think that injuries are the reason the Pack lost to the Giants (otherwise, why would you bring it up, despite the "this isn't why 'we' lost" routine). I think that despite you rattling off a bunch of injured dudes names, it doesn't really matter. A lot of teams have important injuries. Doing a comparison is stupid in today's NFL, because the backup RB in today's game could be the next Adrian Peterson.

How am I acting like there weren't important injuries when I'm now repeating for the 3rd time that they were big issues in other weeks as well? You're a joke dude.
Repeating myself again, no team even compares to the amount of important injuries the Packers have.
Repeating myself again, injuries are not the reason the Packers lost tonight. Giants were the better team.

I feel like you are trying to make some kind of point that you haven't come out with yet.

You're right though....the multiple undrafted rookies the Packers were forced to start tonight have a .0001% chance of being the next AP :bosh:
 
How am I acting like there weren't important injuries when I'm now repeating for the 3rd time that they were big issues in other weeks as well? You're a joke dude.
Repeating myself again, no team even compares to the amount of important injuries the Packers have.
Repeating myself again, injuries are not the reason the Packers lost tonight. Giants were the better team.

I feel like you are trying to make some kind of point that you haven't come out with yet.

You're right though....the multiple undrafted rookies the Packers were forced to start tonight have a .0001% chance of being the next AP :bosh:

I only took issue because you did that weirdo fan thing of "Well, I'm not saying injuries were why we lost but -- here are all of our injured players right now" thing.

My only point was, again (which you seem to keep missing): they obviously weren't as big of a deal prior to tonight, and prior to tonight the Pack were considered a "Hot" team (5 game win streak, only losses were close, peckerslapped Houston which some consider the best in the AFC).

Injuries are not important in the NFL. The Packers have injuries. So do a lot of teams. You seem to think that the Packers injuries are more important than the injuries that other teams have, yet, you don't attribute tonight's loss to injuries. If the injuries weren't the cause of the loss, who cares about the injuries?
 
I only took issue because you did that weirdo fan thing of "Well, I'm not saying injuries were why we lost but -- here are all of our injured players right now" thing.

My only point was, again (which you seem to keep missing): they obviously weren't as big of a deal prior to tonight, and prior to tonight the Pack were considered a "Hot" team (5 game win streak, only losses were close, peckerslapped Houston which some consider the best in the AFC).

Injuries are not important in the NFL. The Packers have injuries. So do a lot of teams. You seem to think that the Packers injuries are more important than the injuries that other teams have, yet, you don't attribute tonight's loss to injuries. If the injuries weren't the cause of the loss, who cares about the injuries?

I keep missing the point of them being unimportant yet I've continued to say that they've been important. We were hot against weak opponents. I named all the injuries because of how ridiculous it is and specifically stated that we need to get healthy, which is why I posted it. But, now that you say it, how are these injuries not more important when they are, being conservative here, triple the amount of high caliber players as any other team in the league?

Who cares about injuries though, let's just have every team go out there with 3rd stringers....same thing. Not like that lowers your chances to win in the playoffs or anything.

EDIT: Just found out you're a Steelers fan. Injuries aren't important, they surely had no effect on the Browns beating the Steelers :lol:
 
Hopefully by Thursday the Falcons coaching staff realizes that Quiz Rodgers is the guy to start. Turners 1 YPC is not going to cut it and it slows the offense down. Runs with him is a waste of a play. With Rodgers back there at least he can hit the small holes given to him, instead of Turner tip toeing his way to them while they close immediately. Sick of watching that shit, smh.
 
If the playoffs began today:

HOU & BAL get byes

PIT @ NE
IND @ DEN

ATL & SF get byes

SEA @ CHI
GB @ NYG


Cincinnati, Minnesota and Tampa Bay each lose out on tiebreakers.
 
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