Official 2009 NFL Draft Thread

[chazmaniandevil]

isnt bobby carpenter that guy that fed off of a.j. hawk?

 

[celtsxpatsxsox]

Couldn't disagree more. Ted Ginn hasn't been utilized right since being drafted #9 overall. The guy is pure speed and with speed you need a guy who can get you the ball. Chad Pennington isn't someone who can hit Ginn in stride 50 yards down field.

The Turner pick tells me that Ernest Wilford is gone.

The Hartline pick tells me that the Dolphins are uncertain Camarillo will be 100%.

One thing I can almost guarantee is the signing of Jason Taylor. Ireland said wed wait and see what we did in the draft. Two Cbs, two wrs and a QB/WR. Bring back Taylor. Him and Porter on the outside would be damn scary.

Speculation in New England is that they are going to try and get Jason Taylor too because of the way there draft has gone and they havent addressed the pass rushing need. I will say though he either goes to New England or Miami though.

 

[Liquidrob]

pat white is going to get broken in half

 

[f16harm]

You don't know what the front office has planned for Hartline.

please tell me the what else they can do with him. He's a #4 at best right now and that's even if he beats out the guy picked ahead of him in this draft. He's way to small to even consider bulking and moving to TE.

 

[f16harm]

If I need to pay attention to the front office you need to pay attention to the team. Watch a game on Sunday and see how many times Ginn has his corner beat.

Sunday Ticket for 6 years.

Not any more than any other slightly above average WR. He jump catches way too much and catches with his body. He also is drastically afraid of contact and steps out of bounds too much or ducks down more than Tory Holt and Marvin Harrison.

He needs to be more aggressive, challenge the corner more, and catch with his hands. Will Allen said last year Ginn needs to realize the speed and hands he has because corners will start getting scared.....but he just isn't doing it.

 

[Hasselbeck]

Sunday Ticket for 6 years.

Not any more than any other slightly above average WR. He jump catches way too much and catches with his body. He also is drastically afraid of contact and steps out of bounds too much or ducks down more than Tory Holt and Marvin Harrison.

He needs to be more aggressive, challenge the corner more, and catch with his hands. Will Allen said last year Ginn needs to realize the speed and hands he has because corners will start getting scared.....but he just isn't doing it.

He's played 2 years...

Even Santonio Holmes didn't come into his own until late in the 3rd year. Give him some time.

 

[Spidey]

He's played 2 years...

Even Santonio Holmes didn't come into his own until late in the 3rd year. Give him some time.

Agreed, I think Ginn will come around and be a fine receiver. It takes time for most WRs to adjust to the NFL. Its true though that Pennington is not an ideal QB for Ginn

 

[EmpireWF]

Is it just me or does the guy on the NFLN panel like to use the term 'bitching and moaning' too much?

 

[f16harm]

He's played 2 years...

Even Santonio Holmes didn't come into his own until late in the 3rd year. Give him some time.

as I said, he has 1 more year to prove he can be a 1.

 

[Spidey]

I hope the Packers take a flier on Meredith here. to much upside to still be sitting there despite his issues. Either that or Cadogan.

Also wouldn't mind Jennings or Davis at the RB position. Don't really want Ringer but also wouldnt hate it.

A CB would work as well.

 

[Spidey]

Is it just me or does the guy on the NFLN panel like to use the term 'bitching and moaning' too much?

They bring up bitching and moaning alot while they are bitching and moaning about players.

 

[Spidey]

Booyah!!! Jamon Meredith. I love TT. My already strong support of him has increased 10x this weekend. Packers having an A+ draft.

 

[-Ray27Rice-]

Wow I am really getting frustrated with the Ravens not picking up a WR yet. That is our biggest need and we haven't done anything about it. Other than the Oher pick, bad draft for Baltimore.

 

[Goober]

Wow, what a terrible second day for the Broncos.

 

[Goober]

They can make up for it by drafting Chris Baker and Zack Folliet with their last two picks though.

 

[Archer]

Sunday Ticket for 6 years.

Not any more than any other slightly above average WR. He jump catches way too much and catches with his body. He also is drastically afraid of contact and steps out of bounds too much or ducks down more than Tory Holt and Marvin Harrison.

He needs to be more aggressive, challenge the corner more, and catch with his hands. Will Allen said last year Ginn needs to realize the speed and hands he has because corners will start getting scared.....but he just isn't doing it.

Staying in bounds and getting smashed for a fumble or getting injured is overated.

All the wrs in Indy apart from Clark drop down or Go out of bounds unless its an important down were they have to fight for extra yards. Id rather see my star wr dropping down after a 13yard catch on 1st and 10 then injuring himself fighting for an extra 2.

When it was 3rd or 4th down with the game on the line Marvin knew how to fight , but other than that it was pointless imo. Fans are always moaning on about how they wana see their wr "run over the corner" ... not every wr has that ability .

 

[Spidey]

Staying in bounds and getting smashed for a fumble or getting injured is overated.

All the wrs in Indy apart from Clark drop down or Go out of bounds unless its an important down were they have to fight for extra yards. Id rather see my star wr dropping down after a 13yard catch on 1st and 10 then injuring himself fighting for an extra 2.

When it was 3rd or 4th down with the game on the line Marvin knew how to fight , but other than that it was pointless imo. Fans are always moaning on about how they wana see their wr "run over the corner" ... not every wr has that ability .

Ive knocked Harrison a ton in the past for lying down and going out of bounds, mainly just to piss off GopherFootball/Burt_Doyle/RickieWeeks, but honestly its a smart move for guys of Ginn's or Harrison's stature. Helps pro-long their career.

As a smash mouth type of guy it drives me nuts to see but it is the right move for them. This is one of the reason I love the Packers WR core. they fight their ass off for an extra yard. Sometimes to a fault. They get defenders piled up on them ripping the ball and fumble or get hurt. It works for the Packers WRs but its not the right move for all WRs.

 

[Goober]

Josh McDaniels got his QB: Tom Brandstater.

 

[chazmaniandevil]

nate davis >>>>>>>>>> tom brandstander

 

[Archer]

Ive knocked Harrison a ton in the past for lying down and going out of bounds, mainly just to piss off GopherFootball/Burt_Doyle/RickieWeeks, but honestly its a smart move for guys of Ginn's or Harrison's stature. Helps pro-long their career.

As a smash mouth type of guy it drives me nuts to see but it is the right move for them. This is one of the reason I love the Packers WR core. they fight their ass off for an extra yard. Sometimes to a fault. They get defenders piled up on them ripping the ball and fumble or get hurt. It works for the Packers WRs but its not the right move for all WRs.

I agree 100% , when it comes down to it theres different types of wr , when your built like Harrison its better to lay down unless the game is on the line .... If your Anquan Boldin then lol its a different story.