[XB1] Official Xbox One Thread

[JimLeavy59]

Looks like Sony and M$ are trying to cut out the 3rd party market for capture cards.

 

[Swarley]

The next Xbox rethinks DRM, Achievements and Xbox Live friends, our sources say

The next Xbox, set to be unveiled during a May 21 event on Microsoft's Redmond-based Xbox campus, will bring with it not just new hardware, but a slew of tweaks to the social aspects of Microsoft's console.

Sources tell Polygon that the current version of the next-gen console includes a next-gen approach to video sharing, anti-piracy protection, social networking and a massive expansion of the Xbox 360's popular achievement system.

Like the recently announced PlayStation 4, the still-unnamed next Xbox will include the ability to capture video highlights of gameplay and then share them through networks like Facebook and Ustream.

In February, during the official PlayStation 4 unveiling, Sony officials detailed the heightened importance of sharing game experiences. The ability to share a snapshot from a game or show off a gameplay video is so important that a "share" button is incorporated into that upcoming console's new controller.

Pressing the PS4's share button allows players to begin capturing their own gameplay in real time and then broadcast it to their friends using social networks.

Microsoft is also trying to come up with a system for video sharing though all of the details are still being locked down. According to our sources, currently the next Xbox will capture your gameplay as if it were a DVR, allowing you to go back and select highlights. That function can be turned on or off, or a player can set up the console to automatically capture a recording when certain in-game events occur, like a headshot or collecting a specific achievement. Auto capturing those "magic moments" will be a feature only available on next-gen games.

Those videos can then be uploaded directly from the console to social sites, like YouTube, for sharing.

Sources tell Polygon that the next Xbox will indeed have some form of an always-on requirement. That will be both to support the suite of non-gaming entertainment applications that will be launched alongside the console, like streaming video services, but also as a possible anti-piracy tool. Currently, the console will support digital rights management and anti-piracy checks using an internet connection. Under Microsoft's current guidelines, which may still be changed, the decision of whether a game will require an internet connection to work and if that is a one-time authentication or a constant connection, will be left up to individual publishers.

THE NEXT XBOX WILL ALLOW PUBLISHERS TO DECIDE IF THEIR GAMES SHOULD REQUIRE AN INTERNET CONNECTION TO BE PLAYED.

The fact that offline gameplay, always online and one-time checks are supported, means that in the future, publishers will have much greater control over copyright protection for their games.

Another thing developers and publishers will have more control over with next-gen Xbox games is the way achievements are used and updated.

With the next Xbox, developers and publishers will be able to add more achievements to a game after launch, without the need to add DLC. This is designed specifically to allow developers to tweak player behavior, perhaps urging players to check out specific areas of a game or get past a difficult spot. Next-gen achievements can also be tied to broader events, like a weekend challenge or a communal goal, like contributing a set number of kills to the bigger goal of 10,000 kills over one weekend. Companies can also create cross-title achievements, like awarding points for finishing the first chapter in two different and unrelated games published by the same company. Some of these bigger, cross-title, communal achievements will be a requirement for all titles.

Microsoft is playing around with cross-platform achievements as well. Ideally, these achievements could be earned by playing a game on the next-gen system and then using a companion app, a website or maybe even by playing a specific game, like a prequel to a next-gen title, on the Xbox 360.

Microsoft is also looking to adjust the way Xbox Live functions to more closely align it with the way other social networks, like Twitter or Facebook, work. The next-generation Live won't have a cap on the number of friends a person can have. The way players add friends will also change. Now instead of it being a two-way friendship only, people can choose to follow one another, sort of like Twitter.

We've reached out to Microsoft for comment on their support of always-online DRM, changes to Live and achievements and addition of video capture to the still-unannounced console and will update this story if and when they respond.

Update: A Microsoft spokesperson had this to say in response to our questions and the article: "We're excited to share more about the new generation of games, TV and entertainment on May 21, but have nothing further to share at this time."

http://www.polygon.com/2013/4/26/4268782/next-xbox-drm-achievements-live

 

[Buzzman]

Idk if I like the achievement edit. Would hate to 100% it and then they release an achievement that says I have to play the game online for 4 hours.

 

[SethMode]

Idk if I like the achievement edit. Would hate to 100% it and then they release an achievement that says I have to play the game online for 4 hours.

I'm the opposite. I think this is an excellent reason to go back to old games. My love of achievements has waned some, but it is more fun to get them than not get them (for example, I get nothing playing Dragon Age and Batman AA because I've 100% them -- I will still play them, but it would be fun to have random new achievements added for a reason to go back and try new things). 100% is overrated, especially on 360 because points are just a number and completely arbitrary (not that trophies are any less arbitrary, but with them at least there is a pinnacle -- platinum -- that you can get and they can't take away from you. With 360 it's just an extra little part of your stats that say "completed").

The silliest aspect of the achievement rumor is that you could see achievements popping up like "Beat all three Square released games in 2014, get 50 points!" or, even worse "Order 15 pizzas from Pizza Hut: 20 points!"

 

[Twigg4075]

This is business strategy 101 and a very good strategy in that. By taking away a dollar amount frame of mind and replacing it with a non-monetary representation, percentages of sales go up drastically.

Oh, I'm well aware that it's great for them but it's terrible for consumers. There needs to be a happy medium where you aren't just trying to fool your customers.

 

[dave]

I'm a lemming, I'm buying both consoles, I know this way ahead of the fact ... but I love the instant on thing. The idea of just turning on your console and playing right away is great.
Microsoft dropping the Points system, brilliant. Just tell me what to pay.

 

[Swarley]

Rumors floating around today that Respawn's game could be a Nextbox exclusive.

 

[JimLeavy59]

LOL Its a mech shooter.

 

[Handleit_44]

https://twitter.com/thurrott/status/330328052053733376

By the way, I did screw up one thing: The $299 version of Xbox v.Next will come with a $15/mo XBLG subscription, not $10. Sorry about that.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=553396

 

[Twigg4075]

https://twitter.com/thurrott/status/330328052053733376



http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=553396

$180/year for Live. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

 

[Swarley]

$180/year for Live. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Ends up being cheaper than the $499 + $8/month for XBL for 2 years. Although, who buys XBL a month at a time lol (also who knows if it stays the same price or what).

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

This console sounds like it was thought up by horny penguins. Not one of those ideas sounds well thought out or interesting.
I know some of you love cheevos but to me they're utterly useless unless they unlock something like a map/skin/weapon etc. Not a single soul I know has used the xbox Facebook thing. Why would anyone over 17 intentionally castrate themselves by posting there dumb cheevos where females and family can see that?

Sorry I'm simply not reading a single thing that has me thinking wow I want that... And I'm a complete tech whore.

P. S here's hoping there anti piracy methods get broken day one and every publisher opting in to DRM gets torrented to bankruptcy.

 

[1ke]

This console sounds like it was thought up by horny penguins. Not one of those ideas sounds well thought out or interesting.
I know some of you love cheevos but to me they're utterly useless unless they unlock something like a map/skin/weapon etc. Not a single soul I know has used the xbox Facebook thing. Why would anyone over 17 intentionally castrate themselves by posting there dumb cheevos where females and family can see that?

Sorry I'm simply not reading a single thing that has me thinking wow I want that... And I'm a complete tech whore.

P. S here's hoping there anti piracy methods get broken day one and every publisher opting in to DRM gets torrented to bankruptcy.

:clap:

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[Twigg4075]

I was just listening to the Radio Radar podcast from a few weeks ago and they were saying that the same M$ insider that leaked the console specs and all of these other alleged details has said that all of the decisions made about this console all revolve around making more money for M$ and their media partners, and for the most part they are all basically anti-consumer.

So, to sum it up its just M$ being M$. Fuck you, get money.

 

[PepperNY]

I was just listening to the Radio Radar podcast from a few weeks ago and they were saying that the same M$ insider that leaked the console specs and all of these other alleged details has said that all of the decisions made about this conservative all revolve around making more money for M$ and their media partners, and for the most part they are all basically anti-consumer.

So, to sum it up its just M$ being M$. Fuck you, get money.

Twigg, does Sony actually pay you to bash Microsoft lol

In all seriousness, I want Microsoft to give me a reason to purchase their next console over what Sony is bringing out but right now I am just not seeing it. Sony seems to have the games where Microsoft is focusing on their system just being a media center. As much as I love Xbox I am starting to lose faith but I guess I will find out what I need to know come May 21st.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

I was just listening to the Radio Radar podcast from a few weeks ago and they were saying that the same M$ insider that leaked the console specs and all of these other alleged details has said that all of the decisions made about this conservative all revolve around making more money for M$ and their media partners, and for the most part they are all basically anti-consumer.

So, to sum it up its just M$ being M$. Fuck you, get money.

MS doesnt know what the fuck its doing on any front. Win 8 / Win Phone /Surface / 720 they dont put out bad products...quite the contrary...but they just dont "get" whats going on today...at all. They keep failing to capture imagination and interes because they are going 80% of the way instead of all of it. This is there last opportunity for a long time to innovate and push things forward and corner an important market...and they make these types of decisions ?
This is probably THE worst time in consumer electronics in a long, long time to think you can nickel and dime your customers. Everyone under that impression is getting fucked including Apple. Sony has the right mindset we'll see if the hardware/OS measure up.

 

[Twigg4075]

Twigg, does Sony actually pay you to bash Microsoft lol

In all seriousness, I want Microsoft to give me a reason to purchase their next console over what Sony is bringing out but right now I am just not seeing it. Sony seems to have the games where Microsoft is focusing on their system just being a media center. As much as I love Xbox I am starting to lose faith but I guess I will find out what I need to know come May 21st.

Not at all. I wish. It just annoys me to no end how they shit all over the customers and most people just seem to keep lapping it up. It's the #1 reason why I prefer Sony over M$ and the PS3 over the 360.

Name ONE thing that they have done that has been pro consumer this generation. ONE. Anything that has been advantageous to you as a 360 owner.


Oh, wait, the Xbox Live Rewards Program! You earn 10 M$ points for every $500 you spend. Sweet!

I fully understand that the reason these companies exist are to make money. I have no issue with that. But there are ways to do that and still make your customers happy and then there is the M$ way where they give zero fucks about the customer and just care about stacking bills.

I just hope it eventually bites them in the ass. They are full of hubris because they came out first tthis gen and have had a big lead (in North America) so it's like they feel that they have everyone by the nuts.

 

[killgod]

https://twitter.com/thurrott/status/330328052053733376






http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=553396

So if you buy the "full priced" Console, you don't pay for Live?

I don't get the way this stuff is being written. Saying you need to sub Live for 2 years with the cheaper box...? So what does that mean for the expensive one?

I don't get this shit.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

So if you buy the "full priced" Console, you don't pay for Live?

I don't get the way this stuff is being written. Saying you need to sub Live for 2 years with the cheaper box...? So what does that mean for the expensive one?

I don't get this shit.

Consumer confusion is MS specialty... Got a Win8 laptop? Cool using metro or classic?... Got MS tab..can you install chrome or any other legacy apps? Oh wait you don't know if you have rt or not?... Got a Windows Phone? .. Awesome it should sync right up with your tab and laptop because they're all Win8 right?

I really REALLY was hopeful win8/surface/720 would FINALLY be the OS to integrate a seamless digital experience. Lol @ me and FU to MS.

 

[Swarley]

So if you buy the "full priced" Console, you don't pay for Live?

I don't get the way this stuff is being written. Saying you need to sub Live for 2 years with the cheaper box...? So what does that mean for the expensive one?

I don't get this shit.

I imagine the regular XBL subscription will be cheaper than the $15/month. Basically the cheaper model and subscription is for the people who can't afford to drop the $500 on the console (those people probably shouldn't be buying it anyways). So it's cheaper at launch, but will likely end up costing you at least a little more at the end of the two years. The more expensive one is just the regular thing, just like they have now. You buy it and you buy XBL just like you do now. No contract or anything.