[XB1] Official Xbox One Thread

[Houston]

 

[Twigg4075]

They said this would need to happen the minute they reversed their DRM policies. Nothing on that ever changed.

How is that not a catch 22? You need an internet connection to be able to NOT play with an internet connection?!?

 

[Twigg4075]

I'm saying MS puts something into the games themselves that require you to connect to the internet for an update. Like giving you a portion of the game on disc and requiring you to download the rest on the marketplace.

So then we're back to not really owning what we purchase, even if we buy the physical disc at a store?!?

 

[Primetime]

How is that not a catch 22? You need an internet connection to be able to NOT play with an internet connection?!?

I guess the 1% nuclear submarine man will have to visit a friend for an hour. I'm assuming they had this feature on the console and simply didn't want to spend the hundreds of man hours reversing everything. Quite possible it only applies to launch consoles.

 

[Primetime]

So then we're back to not really owning what we purchase, even if we buy the physical disc at a store?!?

:yep:. Remember, this is all a worst case scenario speculation by me and nothing to do with MS.

You'll own the game though, there will just be an "extended gameplay" feature for those with an internet connection. Very doubtful this all happens, but it's something I would consider if I'm MS.

 

[Aso]

From how I understand it you can't play Forza 5 at all without an internet update.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/forza-5-requires-onetime-online-connection-to-xbox-live-6411565

"Greenawalt added that the download is required content to run the title.... Xbox One owners can begin playing the game while parts of it are still being downloaded."

Games you literally can't play if you don't have internet.

 

[Twigg4075]

:yep:. Remember, this is all a worst case scenario speculation by me and nothing to do with MS.

You'll own the game though, there will just be an "extended gameplay" feature for those with an internet connection. Very doubtful this all happens, but it's something I would consider if I'm MS.

Something you would consider if you want to lose a huge chunk of your consumers. Yeah, that sounds awesome!

How does that even remotely sound like a good idea? That's about 1000 times worse than companies like Capcom locking away "DLC" on a disc. Now you're telling me it would be a smart move to lock away actual core content that only people with constant connections can access?!?

 

[Twigg4075]

From how I understand it you can't play Forza 5 at all without an internet update.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/forza-5-requires-onetime-online-connection-to-xbox-live-6411565

"Greenawalt added that the download is required content to run the title.... Xbox One owners can begin playing the game while parts of it are still being downloaded."

Games you literally can't play if you don't have internet.

But somehow Primtime thinks this is great for consumers and gaming in general. :facepalm:

 

[Primetime]

From how I understand it you can't play Forza 5 at all without an internet update.

http://www.gamespot.com/news/forza-5-requires-onetime-online-connection-to-xbox-live-6411565

"Greenawalt added that the download is required content to run the title.... Xbox One owners can begin playing the game while parts of it are still being downloaded."

Games you literally can't play if you don't have internet.

I'm sure he's referring to the title update that all launch xbones will need. You won't be able to play ANY game, let alone Forza 5, without the update.

 

[Atlas]

forza is the only one that needs it, and thats a pretty MP heavy game... doesnt seem like a huge issue to me :dunno:

 

[Primetime]

I consider it for the future of gaming. I'll gladly take a 1% dip in early sales to unlock the advantages of knowing everyone is always connected to the internet.

 

[Twigg4075]

forza is the only one that needs it, and thats a pretty MP heavy game... doesnt seem like a huge issue to me :dunno:

Huh? Those games have pretty extensive single player modes.

 

[Atlas]

MP in the sense that a lot of the set-ups and paint schemes you can buy are online, its how you make extra forza bucks (or spend it)... also need to be online to DL the vehicle packs too...

 

[Primetime]

Huh? Those games have pretty extensive single player modes.

He's simply saying one of the main high points of the series is the online features.

 

[Primetime]

I still find it funny that the DRM is such a big issue on our INTERNET forum. Not a single person here....0% will be effected by the reversing policies again(hopefully they do).

 

[Twigg4075]

I still find it funny that the DRM is such a big issue on our INTERNET forum. Not a single person here....0% will be effected by the reversing policies again(hopefully they do).

Because it sets a bad precedent. And you do know there are plenty of people that have computers connected but not game consoles, right? Pretty much all of my close friends and co=workers have game consoles but are NOT connected online.

This is a terrible precedent they're setting, which is why most of the people here with half a brain thinks this is horrible news.

 

[Aso]

I'm sure he's referring to the title update that all launch xbones will need. You won't be able to play ANY game, let alone Forza 5, without the update.

No, thats incorrect. You aren't paying attention. It's a Forza 5 specific update.

It even says at the top of the article "Purpose of connection is to download mandatory content to run racing title." In bold letters.

 

[Primetime]

I can't see the article/video from work. Either way, you'll need to update the xbone initially regardless and since it is a launch title, it can be coupled with that update.

 

[Primetime]

Because it sets a bad precedent. And you do know there are plenty of people that have computers connected but not game consoles, right? Pretty much all of my close friends and co=workers have game consoles but are NOT connected online.

This is a terrible precedent they're setting, which is why most of the people here with half a brain thinks this is horrible news.

It's setting a precedent that this is the next generation of gaming in which online and multiplayer take over(which has already happened in this generation). The advantages of knowing everyone is always connected are endless.

 

[Aso]

I can't see the article/video from work. Either way, you'll need to update the xbone initially regardless and since it is a launch title, it can be coupled with that update.

Well point was, the DRM policies will most likely be unavoidable if they do decide to go back to their previous policies.