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Oh crap, Barnett might be out

I just hope it changes, would like to fedor face a HW, plus Coker is in Italy or some shit and he is always willing to work with other promotions, Werdum hasnr even fought for Strikeforce yet

like I said, go get Monson instead of Vitor at this point

or break up Yvel/Paul B. and let 1 of them get trashed
 
clovett said:
The only bad thing imo is that it takes another good fight in vitor/jorge. Who will replace Vitor at MW agaisnt Santiago?
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David Loiseau.

He's cleared his medicals, and is already licsensed. If Vitor gets the call, The Crow is in vs. Santiago.

Also, Daniel Puder was offered the Fedor spot, but was leaning against taking it. He's pretty much the last ditch effort at this point.

EDIT: Just saw this, figured I would post it...

By Dave Meltzer

Some notes regarding where things stand at the moment with the Affliction main event.

Josh Barnett has confirmed that he has talked to the commission and his license to fight was not approved. Contrary to original reports, Barnett said his June 25th drug test that came up positive was not part of California's new random out of competition testing. It was a test on a day Barnett himself chose as part of his licensing procedure in the state as his license had expired. He didn't want to give specifics because he is going to appeal, but made it clear there was no conspriacy against him, he knows what happened, and is looking to clear his name, but the timing of it is such that the fight with Fedor Emelianenko scheduled for 8/1 at the Honda Center is off.

The California State Athletic Commission had previously released that Barnett was the first person to take an out of competition drug test, saying he performed a test in front of a commission inspector and he was given 48 hours notice to show up for the test. The commission said Barnett was surprised by the call from the office but came the next day after the call and complied with the test.

At this moment, the leading candidate for the fight is Brett Rogers. The main hold-up is that Rogers is under contract to Strikeforce. Both Scott Coker and Showtime both have to approve of the fight. Coker is on vacation right now in Italy but is aware of what is going on. As of this moment, Showtime has not made a decision.

It appears the second choice is Vitor Belfort. Belfort has agreed to jump up two weight classes and take the fight. A name that has surfaced as a possible opponent for Jorge Santiago, who was to face Belfort, provided Belfort gets the spot, is David Loiseau. But there would likely be other names in the running for such a fight.

Accoding to American Top Team sources, Bobby Lashley has turned down the fight. Lashley was offered $500,000 for the fight, but their feeling is Lashley will be getting paydays like this in the future when he's ready, and at this stage of the game, Lashley, as a rookie in the sport, with no training camp and in ten days is not ready for Fedor. It's said that Affliction still believes it's not dead and that he would consider it with a stronger money offer. My impression is it's very unlikely to happen.

Daniel Puder, the former WWE Tough Enough winner, was also contacted earlier today regarding the fight but was strongly leaning against taking it.

The California State Athletic Commission has not made a statement other than a full report on what happened is expected to be released later today.
 
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We dont know if the 500k 'reward' is real or not, but if it is and Strikeforce doesnt let Brett go for it he is going to be pissed

He made 40k for the AA win

I bet there are UFC guys like Carwin, Gonzaga, etc..wanting to go for it for 500k and begging Dana
 
Liquidrob said:
We dont know if the 500k 'reward' is real or not, but if it is and Strikeforce doesnt let Brett go for it he is going to be pissed

He made 40k for the AA win

I bet there are UFC guys like Carwin, Gonzaga, etc..wanting to go for it for 500k and begging Dana
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You know, I hadnt thought of that, but Dana should offer up one of his mid level guys.

It's a no lose for Dana. If his guy wins, he becomes and instant star, and the next Brock challenger.

If his guy loses, it's no big deal, becsuse nobody thinks somebody like Antoni Hardonk can win anyway.
 
Bob Kuzzy said:
I say they make it a surprise. The anticipation would be deadly.
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Yeah, just what we need on the heels of evil pro wrestler Brock.....the MYSTERY OPPONENT.

sidenote-historically, the "mystery opponent" gimmick has never been a good draw for pro wrestling, although they never stop trying it.
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
You know, I hadnt thought of that, but Dana should offer up one of his mid level guys.

It's a no lose for Dana. If his guy wins, he becomes and instant star, and the next Brock challenger.

If his guy loses, it's no big deal, becsuse nobody thinks somebody like Antoni Hardonk can win anyway.
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We all know Dana is never going to do that tho. Plus it'd only make him a star among the hardcore fans, the only guys who are going to see the Affliction PPV. So if it did happen it wouldn't turn anyone into a huge draw for the UFC.

& to the other points, yes MMA promotions need to stop replacing fighters 1-2 weeks out from an event. That's pro wrestling where prep and studying your opponent doesn't matter.
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
Yeah, just what we need on the heels of evil pro wrestler Brock.....the MYSTERY OPPONENT.

sidenote-historically, the "mystery opponent" gimmick has never been a good draw for pro wrestling, although they never stop trying it.
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we did it this weekend and it drew normal for us. all in how its done
 
Looks like Fedor isnt scared of Brett Rogers

mmajunkie.com/news/15602/fedor-emelianenkos-manager-wed-like-to-see-fedor-fight-against-brett-rogers.mma

With Josh Barnett pulled from the Aug. 1 "Affliction: Trilogy" card, Fedor Emelianenko's manager, Vadim Finkelchtein, wants his client to fight Strikeforce heavyweight Brett Rogers instead.

Emelianenko himself doesn't really care which opponent he ends up fighting.

The duo appeared earlier today at a press conference in Moscow to discuss Emelianenko's upcoming fight and even the possibility of the Russian fighter signing with the UFC.

Barnett was pulled from "Trilogy" card on Wednesday after failing a drug test. The test, which was part of Barnett's license renewal in the state of California, detected metabolites from an anabolic steroid.

Since Affliction Vice President Tom Atencio confirmed the failed test and Barnett's removal from the card, a host of potential replacements has been discussed. MMAjunkie.com (www.mmajunkie.com) reported on Wednesday that middleweight Vitor Belfort had agreed to the fight and was working on financial terms of the deal. A Strikeforce official told MMAjunkie.com that their heavyweights, Fabricio Werdum (scheduled to fight on Aug. 15) and Rogers, will not be made available.

However, Rogers is the guy Finkelchtein wants.

"Everyone in the world now wants to see the fight of Fedor, not Barnett," Finkelchtein said (via M-1Global.com). "People want to see Fedor fight. Belfort can make heavyweight, but the fans don't want this fight. Fedor isn't seeking an easy fight. If logistics weren't an issue, we'd like to see Fedor fight against Brett Rogers. Fans want it, (and) so do we.”

As for Emelianenko, he's willing to fight anyone.

"I feel disappointed about this situation," he said. "But I will fight anyone who Affliction puts in front of me. I know a lot of fans waited for this fight to happen, and I am sorry for them. I can't do much about it now, but I am in good shape. My training has been good and continues to go well."

Finkelchtein, who confirmed Belfort had agreed to the fight in principle, said an official announcement regarding the eventual choice of opponent should be made today.
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Barnett is a pussy...
Rogers and Lashley have flawless records and despite being potential big money fights for them, they don't want to ruin their records...so they're pussies.

At least Ken, Vitor, and all of the other cans lining up to fight the White Death at least have testicles, even if they are glorified stuntmen looking to get knocked out for a few grand.

You know what would be awesome...line up all of the cans and make it a gauntlet match for Fedor...

Tank
Ken
Vitor (not a can, but a can for Fedor)
Don Frye
Jose Canseco
Barnett on 'roids
boring ass Werdum

Just line'em all up and let Fedor take'em all on in some sort of order.
 
Maybe Lashley isnt ready.... but I cant see why Rogers would pass it up unless hes seriously out of shape.

All kidding aside if you're going to beat Fedor , going in on short notice and not giving him time to prepare for you , and not give you time to think about what a daunting task it is would be a great thing.

Anyone in good shape should be lining up for this. Its a no lose situation.

I also agree with W2B UFC would be well served sending one of there guys in there.
 
Yeah its really a no lose situation. For that kind of money, even if Fedor smashes him he has all the excuses in the world. Its also great potential to become a star by winning, and even in losing if you put on a good show and can last more than a round. Not accepting really does make you look like a pussy, especially for that money. At first I thought it was smart of Lashley.. but WTF does dude have to lose? Its obviously a little tougher for him than it is for Rogers tho cause Lashley hasnt been training. But all these old dudes are dying to take that pay-day.. that last chance in the spotlight. I dont know whos gonna end up fighting him but I think Rogers would be dumb not to take 500k not to take the fight.
 
Guys, Brett Rogers has no choice in the matter. Strikeforce AND Showtime have to allow him to fight, THEN it's up to Rogers.

He has no say at this point, because neither Strikeforce or Showtime have cleared him to take the fight. And really, they shouldnt.

As for Lashley, he has said from day 1 he was taking the slow path. He's a rookie, he knows it, and fighting Fedor in his 4th pro fight isnt taking "the slow path"....especially with only 10 days to train. He dosen't need the money, so why take that fight?
 
Warner2BruceTD said:
Guys, Brett Rogers has no choice in the matter. Strikeforce AND Showtime have to allow him to fight, THEN it's up to Rogers.
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Coker is no dummy, Fedor wants Rogers, the fans kind of want Brett, if they let Brett fight they will get something out of it

its not over yet, they are gauging the reaction of the fans
 
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