PacMan...you dirty brah?

[Coked Up Elmo]

maybe

 

[Tailback U]

Sorry that site doesn't allow for copy and paste & I gotta leave out for a min so can't really sum it up right now. But, let me say this - if PacMan is so afraid of needles then why is he willing to do the tests, but ONLY on his specified schedule????

http://fighthype.com/pages/content6555.html

Dude is cycling, period! The dates he wants to test, magically he's not afraid of needles? No, it coincides with his flippin cycle.

He's not cycling. He's agreed to take tests a month before and right after the fight, that would mean he'd have to do a one month cycle in between those dates and have it out of his system in that same amount of time. Even if he was cycling, it wouldn't even kick in in that amount of time to have any affect whatsoever.

The only thing I can think of that he may be taking is EPO, but I'm not sure how long EPO stays in your blood for and how detectable it is. I know that it used to be undetectable but I'm not sure if any advances have been made recently.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...med_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=1

Erythropoietin and analogs.

Reichel C, Gmeiner G.

Austrian Research Centers GmbH - ARC, Doping Control Laboratory, A-2444, Seibersdorf, Austria, christian.reichel@arcs.ac.at.

Erythropoietin (EPO), a glycoprotein hormone, stimulates the growth of red blood cells and as a consequence it increases tissue oxygenation. This performance enhancing effect is responsible for the ban of erythropioetin in sports since 1990. Especially its recombinant synthesis led to the abuse of this hormone, predominatly in endurance sports. The analytical differentiation of endogenously produced erythropoietin from its recombinant counterpart by using isoelectric focusing and double blotting is a milestone in the detection of doping with recombinant erythropoietin. However, various analogous of the initial recombinant products, not always easily detectable by the standard IEF-method, necessitate the development of analytical alternatives for the detection of EPO doping. The following chapter summarizes its mode of action, the various forms of recombinant erythropoietin, the main analytical procedures and strategies for the detection of EPO doping as well as a typical case report

 

[JrRawlins]

I wont out-right say Pac-Man is dirty... but he might be toeing that line... the whole fear of needles shit is garbage.... dude has tattoos, lol... Roach and Arum making a big deal about him drawing blood right before the fight... its a tablespoon of blood, they arent takin quarts... Pacquaio and Co. are making a big ass deal about them taking blood but Mayweather is subject to the exact same testing.... he has openly said he doesnt want to hav eblood draw either, but in the sake of fairness he is willing....

 

[JrRawlins]

Paq has problems with giving blood, but still agreed to give it before the press conference and after the fight, along with urine testing done before the fight. PBF is only pushing for the testing right before the fight because he knows Paq is uncomfortable with it and wants to get into his head before the big fight.

This is all PBF trying to get out of the fight in a way that makes him look as good as possible and Paq as bad as possible.

Yes a guy whose nickname is "Money" is really gonna run away from 40 million dollars guaranteed....lol.....

you should change your name to I hate Mayweather and get it over with...

 

[stevsta]

I wont out-right say Pac-Man is dirty... but he might be toeing that line... the whole fear of needles shit is garbage.... dude has tattoos, lol... Roach and Arum making a big deal about him drawing blood right before the fight... its a tablespoon of blood, they arent takin quarts... Pacquaio and Co. are making a big ass deal about them taking blood but Mayweather is subject to the exact same testing.... he has openly said he doesnt want to hav eblood draw either, but in the sake of fairness he is willing....

Free buzz for the already big fight is all it is like someone else said the fight will still go on

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

He's not cycling. He's agreed to take tests a month before and right after the fight, that would mean he'd have to do a one month cycle in between those dates and have it out of his system in that same amount of time. Even if he was cycling, it wouldn't even kick in in that amount of time to have any affect whatsoever.

The only thing I can think of that he may be taking is EPO, but I'm not sure how long EPO stays in your blood for and how detectable it is. I know that it used to be undetectable but I'm not sure if any advances have been made recently.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/...med_ResultsPanel.Pubmed_RVDocSum&ordinalpos=1

Blood doping, I presume.

 

[JeremyHight]

Sorry that site doesn't allow for copy and paste & I gotta leave out for a min so can't really sum it up right now. But, let me say this - if PacMan is so afraid of needles then why is he willing to do the tests, but ONLY on his specified schedule????

http://fighthype.com/pages/content6555.html

Dude is cycling, period! The dates he wants to test, magically he's not afraid of needles? No, it coincides with his flippin cycle.

Are you even reading the shit you are posting? The first article made it clear that HGH is not detectable in blood tests, so PBF saying they need blood tests to check and see if he is on HGH is ridiculous and not even valid.

This article clearly states that steroids would show up on any urine test and that Paq has agreed to frequent random urine testing.

The main point of contention is again, coming from an article you posted. Paq's camp asked the testing group if they could guarantee that he wouldn't have blood drawn the day before the fight and they said no. Why would anyone before the biggest fight of their life want their blood drawn the day before the fight when they are having it drawn right after the fight? It is stupid.

This is all PBF trying to duck the fight and make himself look good. This isn't the Olympics, they don't need Olympic testing. They have their set guidelines and Paq is even willing to go above the Nevada standards, but he isn't willing to sign up for any testing that could take his blood the day before the fight.

 

[Liquidrob]

I dont think PBF is ducking, this fight will happen, he is just fucking with Pacman and its a battle of ego's right now and who will agree to what

Like I said, Pac shouldnt even take the fight if PBF doesnt come in on the agreed weight and doesnt come in multiple pounds above the weight and just pay a fine like against JMM, he is already the bigger fighter to begin with, coming in even bigger with a fight this huge is silly

 

[JrRawlins]

lol, PBF's walk around weight is like 152.... he will make 147 with little problem... he had ZERO intention on dropping to 145 to fight Marquez.. he openly said it from the beginning... its a welterweight title fight... why wouldnt he make the limit? Cotto's a fool for dropping the extra two pounds to make the 145 pound catch weight for his 147 pound title....... fuckin hilarious Cotto agreed to that bullshit considering its his title...

 

[Steel Mamba]

He's not cycling. He's agreed to take tests a month before and right after the fight, that would mean he'd have to do a one month cycle in between those dates and have it out of his system in that same amount of time. Even if he was cycling, it wouldn't even kick in in that amount of time to have any affect whatsoever.

Again, read the article I posted. HGH won't show up in a test after 48 hours of nonuse so he can be on it for more than a months time and still not test positive by coordinating the tests to when he wants them. If he's not using why can't he agree to a random test that excludes anything the day of the fight? Why can he only test on his specific dates?

 

[Steel Mamba]

Are you even reading the shit you are posting? The first article made it clear that HGH is not detectable in blood tests, so PBF saying they need blood tests to check and see if he is on HGH is ridiculous and not even valid.

This article clearly states that steroids would show up on any urine test and that Paq has agreed to frequent random urine testing.

The main point of contention is again, coming from an article you posted. Paq's camp asked the testing group if they could guarantee that he wouldn't have blood drawn the day before the fight and they said no. Why would anyone before the biggest fight of their life want their blood drawn the day before the fight when they are having it drawn right after the fight? It is stupid.

This is all PBF trying to duck the fight and make himself look good. This isn't the Olympics, they don't need Olympic testing. They have their set guidelines and Paq is even willing to go above the Nevada standards, but he isn't willing to sign up for any testing that could take his blood the day before the fight.

Are you serious, or are you just pulling my leg? HGH is seperate from steroids, two different things and no one is worried about the steroid aspect. Maybe you were reading something different, but the article does say that the only reliable way to test for HGH is via blood sample using the same method they used in the Olympics.

The only way to prevent HGH use is by random blood tests which would most likely be during his training camp anyway.

 

[JeremyHight]

Reports are coming out now that Arum is saying the fight is done and that Paq will be looking for someone else for his next fight. He didn't rule out still fighting PBF, but he made it seem like the talks weren't just off, but the fight was done.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

haha everything is better when sides are taken

i should have said niggas, honkeys, chinks, ad beaners

Yup.

Boxing was built on people taking sides based on race.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Are you serious, or are you just pulling my leg? HGH is seperate from steroids, two different things and no one is worried about the steroid aspect. Maybe you were reading something different, but the article does say that the only reliable way to test for HGH is via blood sample using the same method they used in the Olympics.

The only way to prevent HGH use is by random blood tests which would most likely be during his training camp anyway.

Even that isnt completely reliable. There is currently no viable testing right now for HGH.

I dont blame Pacman at all for telling PBF to fuck off. I wouldnt agree to those terms, either.

 

[Steel Mamba]

Yup.

Boxing was built on people taking sides based on race.

Moreso nationality than race, for most at least. Thankfully it's not purely about race.

Even that isnt completely reliable. There is currently no viable testing right now for HGH.

I dont blame Pacman at all for telling PBF to fuck off. I wouldnt agree to those terms, either.

It's good & reliable enough for everyone in the Olympics, but not for PacMan... Either way I really don't see how it hurts anything, he's not afraid of needles.

 

[EmpireWF]

Bob Arum says the fight is off.

Apparently, Pacman's group offered Mayweather $10 million should Pacman fail any drug test or blood test (that doesn't happen during training camp). Mayweather's group declined.

If this is truly the end of the fight, what a horrible way to treat the fans.

Mayweather has to realize he's hurting the sport by demanding what he is. It's not like Pac can cycle completely off by the time the fight is over.

 

[Mogriffjr]

Bob Arum says the fight is off.

Apparently, Pacman's group offered Mayweather $10 million should Pacman fail any drug test or blood test (that doesn't happen during training camp). Mayweather's group declined.

If this is truly the end of the fight, what a horrible way to treat the fans.

Mayweather has to realize he's hurting the sport by demanding what he is. It's not like Pac can cycle completely off by the time the fight is over.

lol @ offering money...

obviously the money isn't an issue...i believe PBF/Pac man is split 50/50, which many felt would never come to fruition.

he wants to be known as the best...he also wants it to be fair...I'm sure there's legit speculation on PBF's camp that PacMan is on something, for them to have this as a sticking point...I don't like that this is the hold up but there's a ton at stake, moreso for PBF because of how he is.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Moreso nationality than race, for most at least. Thankfully it's not purely about race.

True, I should have said nationality.

It's good & reliable enough for everyone in the Olympics, but not for PacMan... Either way I really don't see how it hurts anything, he's not afraid of needles.

The guy has agreed to any and all other types of testing. He just dosent want blood drawn within 48 hours of the fight.

The fact PBF wont back off of that, tells me he dosent really want to fight him.

 

[Steel Mamba]

Bob Arum says the fight is off.

Apparently, Pacman's group offered Mayweather $10 million should Pacman fail any drug test or blood test (that doesn't happen during training camp). Mayweather's group declined.

If this is truly the end of the fight, what a horrible way to treat the fans.

Mayweather has to realize he's hurting the sport by demanding what he is. It's not like Pac can cycle completely off by the time the fight is over.

Like I've posted before, he can have it out of his system in 2 days and it's not something you would take directly before a fight for any additional benefits. Pac offering 10mil for a failed drug test does nothing to address the issue, everyone knows no one is going to fail a scheduled drug test, that's the whole point in making it random. Mayweather is subject to the exact same testing, exactly the same, so what makes Pac so special that he can't follow through with this? Take the tests and the fight is on, it's that simple.

I can't blame Mayweather for wanting to ensure that everything is on the up and up and legit, there's just too much on the line not to want strict testing. This would be one of the biggest fights in the history of boxing, shouldn't we want to know that the two fighting for the P4P crown were both 100% clean? If this was any other fighter besides Mayweather no one would be taking Pacs side on this.

 

[Liquidrob]

I thought you didnt care about this stuff Mamba? Now you're all about testing?