"Paul bends to King James' Rule" - Adrian Wojnarowski

[Sportsbuck]

destroyed what image ? He is a great player in an entertainment business.
The only people who think his image is destroyed are simpleton sports fans who live in Ohio.

Are you really this ignorant? Lebron destroyed his image with how he's handled himself in this free agency fiasco. I guess I should say WWW and Maverick Carter really handled the destroying if I wanted to be correct.

Cleveland never made the best effort to get good players and coaches to surround him with. He is going to a proven winner with a Yoda type motivater in Riley.

Cut the crap.

Killa Pand summarized it best:

I don't think this is fair. LeBron's reluctance to ever commit long term made it hard to do things like build through the draft and make long term moves. Instead they went after a bunch of quick fixes like Jamison/Williams/Shaq. Also even though Mike Brown isn't a good coach, he came from a proven winner (the Spurs) and the Cavs were always a good defensive team.

I don't think they necessarily did the best job, but it was enough to build an annual championship contender. Don't know what else LeBron could really ask for.

The biggest winner in all of this was Kevin Durant. He went from being a local favorite and MVP candidate to all of a sudden being the kind of player that a lot of people want to see in the NBA: Works hard, loyal, is there for his younger teammates (he goes to all of the summer league games), etc.

 

[ram29jackson]

Are you really this ignorant? Lebron destroyed his image with how he's handled himself in this free agency fiasco. I guess I should say WWW and Maverick Carter really handled the destroying if I wanted to be correct.
Cut the crap.

Killa Pand summarized it best:


The biggest winner in all of this was Kevin Durant. He went from being a local favorite and MVP candidate to all of a sudden being the kind of player that a lot of people want to see in the NBA: Works hard, loyal, is there for his younger teammates (he goes to all of the summer league games), etc.

no one outside Ohio cares that lebron left. You want to believe the media bull that his national/ world fame is tarnished ? go ahead haha

 

[ram29jackson]

This is bullshit.

They won the most games in the league 2 years straight but they've never been championship worthy? How?

The only way this makes sense is if you define "championship worthy" as actually winning the title. In that case yeah obviously the Cavs haven't won a title with Lebron.

its only the second season that counts at the end. The Cavaliers are and never been worthy contenders except for once and that once was a joke because they went against the powerful Spurs.

on the bright side- Byron Scott took the Nets to at least play in a championship...But that is after all, another quality ex Laker haha

Like Riley was ex laker coach. These are people from organizations that know how to win. Cleveland knows nothing about this like 19 other NBA teams that have no clue.

 

[dboy_dc]

players leave their teams all the time, yall (Ohioians) need to realize that this is a sink or swim "BUSINESS." It is what it is, he doesn't own the Cavs anything, as a matter of fact they may even owe him. No matter what team he went to he would have had the same success or better on.

As far as winning all those games with the Cavs, Being season front runners dont mean a damn thing when your looking for a ring. Dallas used to front run all the time.

 

[mcstl25]

players leave their teams all the time, yall (Ohioians) need to realize that this is a sink or swim "BUSINESS." It is what it is, he doesn't own the Cavs anything, as a matter of fact they may even owe him. No matter what team he went to he would have had the same success or better on.

As far as winning all those games with the Cavs, Being season front runners dont mean a damn thing when your looking for a ring. Dallas used to front run all the time.

I don't think anyone has a problem with Lebron going to another team. It's the one-hour circus to announce that he was leaving Cleveland that has ruined Lebron's reputation. You don't go on national television and embarrass the only city and team you've ever known. Completely selfish and classless.

 

[Sportsbuck]

no one outside Ohio cares that lebron left. You want to believe the media bull that his national/ world fame is tarnished ? go ahead haha

LOL ok.

Thats why the news has been nonstop about Lebron... and why so many NATIONAL sports writers are calling him out for his immaturity, childish attitude, etc. I don't even live in Ohio and I read it in the newspapers and saw it on TV, hell when I went to the beach I saw the same thing.

For the last fucking time: Its not that Lebron left. Players come and go all the time, Cleveland fans fucking realize that. Its the way he left. Don't try and bring up some BS comparison, because there really is no other situation in sports history thats anything like this one.

 

[Juggernaut]

The biggest winner in all of this was Kevin Durant. He went from being a local favorite and MVP candidate to all of a sudden being the kind of player that a lot of people want to see in the NBA: Works hard, loyal, is there for his younger teammates (he goes to all of the summer league games), etc.

So true, besides Dirk and J-Rich, Durant jumped to #3 in my books. I might actually root for Durant this season, hopefully they'll be the achilles heel to the Heat.

 

[ram29jackson]

LOL ok.

Thats why the news has been nonstop about Lebron... and why so many NATIONAL sports writers are calling him out for his immaturity, childish attitude, etc.

For the last fucking time: Its not that Lebron left. Players come and go all the time, Cleveland fans fucking realize that. Its the way he left. Don't try and bring up some BS comparison, because there really is no other situation in sports history thats anything like this one.

they/media grabbed on to it and gave it the bad angle because they knew simple minded people like you would consider this important news. National sports writers write about it because its the easy new topic to try to spin the way they made you think about it. The way he left? his contract was done. How was than any different than anyone else. No situation like this in sports history? Free agents go where they want time and again. Since when is that new/news? This is a none topic. But you are one of those lemmings the media can make think is a big deal.

lebron did absolutely nothing wrong or unusual. He owes nothing to a city of people because of his basketball talent. And simple minded fans who take it personal..well, they need to get a life.

 

[FirstTimer]

they/media grabbed on to it and gave it the bad angle because they knew simple minded people like you would consider this important news. National sports writers write about it because its the easy new topic to try to spin the way they made you think about it. The way he left? his contract was done. How was than any different than anyone else. No situation like this in sports history? Free agents go where they want time and again. Since when is that new/news? This is a none topic. But you are one of those lemmings the media can make think is a big deal.

lebron did absolutely nothing wrong or unusual. He owes nothing to a city of people because of his basketball talent. And simple minded fans who take it personal..well, they need to get a life.

LOL wut?

I must have missed Jud Buechlers 1998 free agent special when he signed with the Pistons.

 

[Sportsbuck]

they/media grabbed on to it and gave it the bad angle because they knew simple minded people like you would consider this important news. National sports writers write about it because its the easy new topic to try to spin the way they made you think about it. The way he left? his contract was done. How was than any different than anyone else. No situation like this in sports history? Free agents go where they want time and again. Since when is that new/news? This is a none topic. But you are one of those lemmings the media can make think is a big deal.

lebron did absolutely nothing wrong or unusual. He owes nothing to a city of people because of his basketball talent. And simple minded fans who take it personal..well, they need to get a life.

And here we go again... Ram29jacskon thinking he is all knowledgable and talking down to everyone when in all actuality he's borderline retarded.

When was the last time the 2-time defending MVP, widely considered to be the best player in the game, left his hometown team that he had played for for 7 years, without so much as a phone call or text being returned to the teams brass, created a circus and a spectacle surrounding the entire process and went on national tevelvision to announce his decision?

According to this article, the only time that the fans booed at Team USA's blue-white game in Las Vegas was when it was announced that a fan had won a ball autographed by Lebron. Damn, crazy fucking Ohioans, going all the way to Vegas just for the odd chance that they might get to boo something to do with Lebron.

 

[FedEx227]

LOL wut?

I must have missed Jud Buechlers 1998 free agent special when he signed with the Pistons.

I recall a similar hoopla occurring during Drew Gooden's signing a few years back.

 

[ralaw]

I see Wojo is continuing his anti LeBron crusade....Wojo should move on. Paul is doing the right thing, because he's using his power to make sure the team is doing what its supposed to do. Kobe did it and it worked. I understand the feel good story of New Orleans and how Paul embraced the region, but Paul's legacy as a baskeball player will be judged by what he wins and not on how much he helps who the media described as refugees and Paul understands that.

 

[FedEx227]

By making it a public spectacle though Paul has inherently hurt New Orleans because they won't be able to get as much for him as they no longer have any leverage.

 

[ralaw]

By making it a public spectacle though Paul has inherently hurt New Orleans because they won't be able to get as much for him as they no longer have any leverage.

I don't see the spectacle....he arranged a meeting with management, expressed his concerns and it appears he's going to stay. Paul can't control the media running with the story. This was much better than Kobe going on ESPN radio to announce he wanted to be traded.

William Wesley has been on the NBA scene a long time, so I don't understand the sudden focus on him. However, I do understand from some past dealings Wojo is bitter about James, which he continues to display in this article.

 

[Fox1994]

And here we go again... Ram29jacskon thinking he is all knowledgable and talking down to everyone when in all actuality he's borderline retarded.

I just don't understand the condescension. He's more condescending than Goblin Slayer, but he's not saying anything revolutionary or out of this world over-our-heads. It's just normal sports talk, mixed in with a 'smarter-than-thou' approach. It makes any chance he has at seeming like he has a reasonable point go out the window. It's sad and pathetic.

I see Wojo is continuing his anti LeBron crusade

Ya, I'm wondering about this myself. It's the hot topic right now, though. It's the offseason.

By making it a public spectacle though Paul has inherently hurt New Orleans because they won't be able to get as much for him as they no longer have any leverage.

That's what he wants. He wants the leverage, he doesn't want them to have it. Which doesn't necessarily mean it's right, but he wants control over his own destiny, and he wants out of New Orleans unless they intend on building a winner.

 

[FirstTimer]

I see Wojo is continuing his anti LeBron crusade.....

Not sure it's a "anti-Lebron crusade". He's written the best synopsis articles of the entire situation and has handed out blame in every direction from Lebron, to the Cavs, to the NBA, to Maverick and World Wide Wes.

I don't think this article is so much an indictment of Paul or Lebron but of the people around them corrupting them and being clowns.

I really wouldn't chatracterize Wojo as bing on a "crusade" as much as he is fairly evaluating what's been going on. He took a bit of a shot at Lebron having a large ego in this article but overall he's been more critical of the people Lebron has chosen to surround himself with and pointing out James' immaturity than being on a "crusade." Maybe I've missed it but I don't think I've once seen him rip the choice James made...just the way he did it and the way he has acted during it based on his sources.

 

[FedEx227]

If anything it's more about the value system of the guys around LeBron and less about LeBron himself.

 

[FedEx227]

To be fair to Paul though, we heard rumblings last year that the Hornets were looking to possibly move him. So, whatever... this one doesn't bother me much.

 

[KNUBB]

To be fair to Paul though, we heard rumblings last year that the Hornets were looking to possibly move him. So, whatever... this one doesn't bother me much.

Negative. Hornets were never interested in moving Paul. He just signed an extension last year. :smh:

 

[ram29jackson]

And here we go again... Ram29jacskon thinking he is all knowledgable and talking down to everyone when in all actuality he's borderline retarded.

When was the last time the 2-time defending MVP, widely considered to be the best player in the game, left his hometown team that he had played for for 7 years, without so much as a phone call or text being returned to the teams brass, created a circus and a spectacle surrounding the entire process and went on national television to announce his decision?

According to this article, the only time that the fans booed at Team USA's blue-white game in Las Vegas was when it was announced that a fan had won a ball autographed by Lebron. Damn, crazy fucking Ohioans, going all the way to Vegas just for the odd chance that they might get to boo something to do with Lebron.

You keep redundantly spewing the same crap about nothing that matters.
You dont get it it. Just because something like this may have never really happened before means nothing, means absolutely nothing. The media hyped the negative angle and butt hurt Ohioans think its ground breaking heart ache.
I have to be redundant Fox because this Ohio homer and little boys like you dont poses the wisdom to understand something so simple.
Where am I being Condescending? I just simply say how things are. If you dont like it, tough cookies.
Anyone with a brain knows Lebron made an adult decision and went on with his life,nothing more. That is both the end of the story and the beginning of another one.

Next year it will be Miami VS L A because no one else made a true effort or really knows how to acquire, nurture and keep talent

Miami = Lakers East, for now haha
Cleveland= Clippers East



{{QUOTE=Sportsbuck;1207894]And here we go again... Ram29jacskon thinking he is all knowledgable and talking down to everyone when in all actuality he's borderline retarded.}}

This is VSN you idiot, where everyone does that same thing.
But I'm not a simple minded fan from Ohio, So ,yes, I am superior.