Paul Walker Dead at 40 (Fast and Furious, Into the Blue)

[f16harm]

Speed limits do not correlate at all to the current performance standards of the modern automobile. They are a safety standard calculated based on an efficient volume of throughput of the area during normal traffic flow in addition to environmental factors such as keeping noise low, reducing tire wear, and controlling emissions. Even with an apex of 90deg., an average performance car (I'll say a 4 cylinder Ford Focus ST off the top of my head) could handle a turn at 40-45 mph when taking the most efficient line. In fact, at 40-45mph one would be on the edge of even being able to pull the handbrake and initiate a drift around the corner (in the event one was really trying to be an idiot showoff) as speed would be too low to follow through and exit. He also worked right down the road, so one cannot argue he was unfamiliar with the area and driving it.

IMO, they were cruising around the corner as no one else was on the roadway at that time, and either the power steering line burst or a tire went. Either would be completely uncontrollable at any speed and either would have gone due to premature failure or defect as the car had less than 3k miles on it and can easily hold that speed and G's. This would also explain the lack of skid marks until closer to the cars final resting place (when they tried to avoid light/tree).

With that said, I'll fully expect all of you on your way to/from your homes today to ensure you're doing that 15mph on the on/off ramps or the 35mph on that gentle curve placed on the 55-60mph roadway........

 

[SethMode]

I'm still trying to figure out what a "Non-automotive guy" is. A Decepticon?

 

[Glenbino]

I'm still trying to figure out what a "Non-automotive guy" is. A Decepticon?

 

[f16harm]

I'm still trying to figure out what a "Non-automotive guy" is. A Decepticon?

For lack of a better term: a guy who has no knowledge of autos and/or lacks the interest in autos and/or driving. One who takes no joy in some spirited driving now and then (which may include listening to his favorite tunes) and strictly sees the auto as a mechanical device to get them from point A to point B. They never clean the interior or exterior until it reaches levels forbidden by the CDC. They generally drive a piece of shit, or a cheaply made car and claim it is as good as any other made. Often known to get ass raped at the dealership with high repair costs, which they then turn around and complain about and use as more fuel as to why autos are stupid to care about.

To me, it is on the list of one potential case where the Man Card can be pulled.

 

[f16harm]

Negative, they know more about autos than even W2B. Their wagons are hand made, but by law in most states they are now required to have tail lamps and reflectors, however, most now also have drum brakes, some form of steel bumper guard, and restraints on the seats.

 

[PP]

Negative, they know more about autos than even W2B. Their wagons are hand made, but by law in most states they are now required to have tail lamps and reflectors, however, most now also have drum brakes, some form of steel bumper guard, and restraints on the seats.

I don't care if this isnt the lockeroom. But you are a fuckin GOOMBA.

 

[f16harm]

I don't care if this isnt the lockeroom. But you are a fuckin GOOMBA.

:wtf2:
Oh my God, I'm a mushroom or Italian? Nope.

 

[Sharkweather]

and strictly sees the auto as a mechanical device to get them from point A to point B.

:duh:

 

[SuperKevin]

For lack of a better term: a guy who has no knowledge of autos and/or lacks the interest in autos and/or driving. One who takes no joy in some spirited driving now and then (which may include listening to his favorite tunes) and strictly sees the auto as a mechanical device to get them from point A to point B. They never clean the interior or exterior until it reaches levels forbidden by the CDC. They generally drive a piece of shit, or a cheaply made car and claim it is as good as any other made. Often known to get ass raped at the dealership with high repair costs, which they then turn around and complain about and use as more fuel as to why autos are stupid to care about.

To me, it is on the list of one potential case where the Man Card can be pulled.

It falls right next to being a Miami Dolphins fan on that list.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

AUTOS

 

[seaplus]

f16harm

:upset:

:ravens:

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

You, W2B, and the other contingent of driving homophobes probably can't even change the oil on your car, or could even point out the drain plug.

driving homophobes?

And no, I couldn't point out a drain plug with a gun to my head. I pay grease monkey's to do grease monkey things for me. That has nothing to do with some of the retarded assertions you've made in this thread.

 

[PP]

Fluid leak has been ruled out. Seems speed is the driving force.

 

[Point Blank]

LOL, says the know-it-all, angry, half-breed himself with emotional and self-esteem issues. Go back to the Jonathan Martin bullying thread and start climbing out of your hole you guilty, post-bullying hot mess.

There's probably 3 or 4 people on this forum that know cars like I do, and can back it up with what they drive and have done. I know two of them are MVPete and Atlas. As for the overwhelming majority here, it should be on the list of topics no one should be giving advice on here, which IMO also includes the topics of finance, children, and marriage. You, W2B, and the other contingent of driving homophobes probably can't even change the oil on your car, or could even point out the drain plug. As a person whose family has been in the business for years, I have no desire to listen to your pontifications. Think of it like you and Rosetta not wanting to hear most of what people say about fitness/lifting. In fairness to Rosetta though, his knowledge far exceeds yours.

What?

 

[Maynard]

i think i am a non automotive guy.

whats more confusing to me is that idk if this thread is about driving a car or giving a shit about walkers death. personally i am more concerned about how many people seem to care that this guy is dead.

 

[Tailback U]

LOL, says the know-it-all, angry, half-breed himself with emotional and self-esteem issues. Go back to the Jonathan Martin bullying thread and start climbing out of your hole you guilty, post-bullying hot mess.

LOL half breed? That's a first.

Looks like I struck a nerve. Great response, though. Telling me to climb out of a hole after I just told you to start climbing out of one. BRILLIANT DUDE.

There's probably 3 or 4 people on this forum that know cars like I do, and can back it up with what they drive and have done. I know two of them are MVPete and Atlas. As for the overwhelming majority here, it should be on the list of topics no one should be giving advice on here, which IMO also includes the topics of finance, children, and marriage. You, W2B, and the other contingent of driving homophobes probably can't even change the oil on your car, or could even point out the drain plug. As a person whose family has been in the business for years, I have no desire to listen to your pontifications. Think of it like you and Rosetta not wanting to hear most of what people say about fitness/lifting. In fairness to Rosetta though, his knowledge far exceeds yours.

CNN) -- It has three times the horsepower of the average car. It's notoriously difficult to handle, even for professional drivers. And now, it's known as the car actor Paul Walker was riding in when he died.

Both Walker and his driving team partner, who was behind the wheel, died after the 2005 Porsche Carrera GT they were in slammed into a pole and burst into flames. Los Angeles County authorities say speed was a factor in the crash and are investigating how fast the exotic car was going.
So why is the 2005 Porsche Carrera GT so different from other street cars? Here are five reasons:

1) It flies on the road

The sports car has a top speed of 208 mph, a very high-revving V10 engine and more than 600 horsepower, said Eddie Alterman, editor-in-chief of Car and Driver magazine.

Police rule out 2nd vehicle in Walker crash

"This was not a car for novices," Alterman said. "Actually, the Carrera GT program began as a racing program."
Todd Trimble, an exotic car mechanic in Las Vegas, said the Carrera GT is a "very hard car to drive."

"It's (a) pure racer's car. You really need to know what you're doing when you drive them. And a lot of people are learning the hard way."

5 things to know about Roger Rodas, who died with Paul Walker

2) It's incredibly expensive

Brand new, the car costs $450,000.

An oil change alone costs $900, Trimble said.

3) The engine is in the middle

Having the engine in the middle of the car means it's more agile and turns more quickly than a car with the engine in the front or in the rear.

The Carrera GT is able to change direction "very quickly, very much like a race car," Alterman said.
"It was beyond a super car. It is what we call a hyper car."

4) It has no stability control

The Carrera GT is also unusual because it has no electronic stability control. That means it's unforgiving with mistakes.

"Stability control is really good at correcting slides, keeping the car from getting out of shape," race car driver Randy Pobst said.


"Paul was by far the best driver -- a natural car guy," he said.
Alterman said learning to drive a car like a Carrera GT can be extremely tricky.
"Every car is sort of different. And this one, especially since it had such a hair-trigger throttle, because it changed directions so quickly, there is a lot to learn."

5) There are only 1,300 of them
Porsche made only about 1,300 Carreras GTs -- and they're disappearing fast.
"They're getting rarer and rarer," Trimble said. "Most of the time, when they do get wrecked, there's not much left of them."

Oh shit look at that "mr. my family has been in the business for decades." Authorities say speed was a factor. But what do they know, they probably can't even locate a drain plug.

Speeding in a car like this in residential areas is a disaster waiting to happen.

Surprising that I haven't seen you mention how this car has no electronic stability control. Guess your grease monkey of a father never taught you anything about this car.

 

[Tailback U]

i think i am a non automotive guy.

whats more confusing to me is that idk if this thread is about driving a car or giving a shit about walkers death. personally i am more concerned about how many people seem to care that this guy is dead.

You really can't see why people are discussing why/how the car crashed and who/what is to blame here relates to all of this?

 

[Golden Taters]

I am a car enthusiast (not sure why this even matters?) but disagree with what F16 is saying, and I imagine the other posters that he pointed out would agree with me because his stance makes no sense. Speeding through a residential area is the worst place you can do it, I don't understand what is so hard to comprehend about this.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Sounds like that vehicle doesn't even belong on a public road, based on the description of how unstable it sounds and difficult it is to drive.

 

[nickp50010]

f16 taught us that the laws of physics do not apply if you operate a vehicle recklessly, you are a professional driver, you can locate the oil plug, you change your own oil, you own a '13 Shelby, you come from a family whose been the business for years. . . .