Ray Lewis Reportedly Used Banned Substance

[RainboUnicorn]

Its funny to see baseball players / cyclists be crucified for using a banned substance. Football players doing it is almost swept under the rug. There is nobody questioning Ray's HoF credentials. Yet we see McGwire, Sosa, Clemens being kept out if the hall for using. I find it all very interesting.

 

[ram29jackson]

Its funny to see baseball players / cyclists be crucified for using a banned substance. Football players doing it is almost swept under the rug. There is nobody questioning Ray's HoF credentials. Yet we see McGwire, Sosa, Clemens being kept out if the hall for using. I find it all very interesting.

football is already based in a type of aggression. The other sports arent primarily

 

[Youk]

football is already based in a type of aggression. The other sports arent primarily

Are you trying to say that it's swept under the rug because roid rage isn't as noticeable in other sports compared with football?

 

[RainboUnicorn]

football is already based in a type of aggression. The other sports arent primarily

Are you trying to say that it's swept under the rug because roid rage isn't as noticeable in other sports compared with football?

My theory is this:

People relate more to baseball / cycling more personally for some reason. Maybe it's because the athletes don't look at muscular as football. They look at those sports and somehow believe they could have somehow played those sports. I hear many comments from people talking about baseball/cycling and PED's say "oh I'll just take this/that and I could win a tour de france." Or "I could take this/that and hit 70 home runs." So it's almost like they believe they were cheated somehow. With football it's different.

 

[LiquidLarry2GhostWF]

Baseball and Cycling are self-hating sports...those that operate its day-to-day functions hate what it has become of its athletes.

Football, to a point, is becoming that, too...with relation to head trauma, moreover drug usage.

 

[EmpireWF]

Not really swept under the rug. This season alone we've seen several cases involving adderall.

Then there's that substance many teams use on the sidelines with weird funking side effects. Forgot the name, Real Sports did a story some time ago.

Baseball had an entire era where roids was so key, decade later the bbwoa try to run and hide from it. This despite owners turning a blind eye and the same with the union.

 

[ralaw]

My theory is this:

People relate more to baseball / cycling more personally for some reason. Maybe it's because the athletes don't look at muscular as football. They look at those sports and somehow believe they could have somehow played those sports. I hear many comments from people talking about baseball/cycling and PED's say "oh I'll just take this/that and I could win a tour de france." Or "I could take this/that and hit 70 home runs." So it's almost like they believe they were cheated somehow. With football it's different.

I always thought it had to do with records. NFL players using drugs aren't breaking all-time records that people thought would never be touched.

 

[ram29jackson]

Are you trying to say that it's swept under the rug because roid rage isn't as noticeable in other sports compared with football?

no, but that works LOL

 

[FedEx227]

I always thought it had to do with records. NFL players using drugs aren't breaking all-time records that people thought would never be touched.

That's a part of it, the other thing in my mind is the fact that baseball is considered a game of mortals. A game of humans.

We as a nation have always seemed to put football in a gladiator sport category. A bunch of hulking monsters crushing their heads together for our enjoyment. Baseball though, your neighbor could be a baseball player. Greg Maddux looked like an underwriter but was one of the best pitchers of all time. We know a football player when we see them, they are gigantic human beings. You could stand two feet away from a major league baseball player and REALLY not know.

Not necessarily saying that's my stance, but I'd imagine that's why you see the conflicting responses.

 

[ralaw]

They have him on tape, so unless you believe he ordered it and then never used it, its pretty obvious Lewis is lying.

I'm sure half the people on the field Sunday are cheating. I don't care, you will never stop these guys from cheating, but hopefully they harass Lewis about this until kickoff and beyond, because he's a creep and deserves whatever scrutiny he gets to counter act this bullshit image he's created.

Which would you rather hear?

How awesome of a guy Ray Lewis is or see Drew Brees everywhere and talk about Hurricane Katrina?
With Ray Lewis, Drew Brees and Hurricane Katrina I thought you'd stay as far away from this SB as possible.

 

[Aso]

It would be awesome if Ray Lewis was suspended from playing in the Superbowl and then they lost. One can dream.

 

[BigBucs]

Deer-antler velvet extract :stanley:

 

[Youk]

no, but that works LOL

Then what were you getting at?

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

In cycling your battling a clock , in baseball its all about numbers.
In football that shit is secondary. People dont watch for times and stat lines they (used to) watch to see people hit each other while a handful do there best to circumvent the hitting.
NFL is decades past its drug drama as they implemented and outlawed testing awhile ago. If Ray Lewis had just broken the hollowed tackle record or defeated arm cancer maybe things would be different here.

 

[FedEx227]

Which is why I'm really uncomfortable with the villainizing of baseball cheaters and the relatively shrug everyone gives football. I mean, I get that they are two different sports or whatever and I get all the reasoning but it seems REALLY unfair to treat baseball's cheaters like some type of cretin criminals while anyone caught in football is basically "eh, well, whatever."

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

Which is why I'm really uncomfortable with the villainizing of baseball cheaters and the relatively shrug everyone gives football. I mean, I get that they are two different sports or whatever and I get all the reasoning but it seems REALLY unfair to treat baseball's cheaters like some type of cretin criminals while anyone caught in football is basically "eh, well, whatever."

I acknowledge the hypocrisy. I do. However you have to look at the individuals as it really IMO isnt about the drugs themselves.

McGwire pleading the 5th after acting like mr clean.
Palmeiro pointing a finger like a douche.
Bonds spending his career being a Fn A-hole.

Like in the other thread..how can you not villify them. If a narcissist like Canseco ends up being the "good guy" whistle blow you know shit is bad.

When you look at guys who've gotten popped before in the NFL it really is who gives a shit because theyre who gives a shit guys. Boston , Merriman , etc ..seems like comparing apples to oranges in terms of the individuals. Let someone dig up that Barry Sanders and Jerry Rice were roiding and see the shit storm that ensues.

 

[RosettaStoned]

Professional athletes using PED's. I'm shocked.

 

[Villain]

Who would have thought deer antler had these sorts of benefits!!

It's amazing that we were able to beat the mohicans.

 

[mgoblue2290]

Crazy how ESPN has already offered him a job, I wonder if this will change his employment status with the network. One could never imagine Bonds or McGwire getting a gig on Baseball Tonight. And those guys don't even have the whole obstruction of justice/accessory to murder thing hanging over their heads.

ESPN's main concern should be whether or not Lewis' drooling will ruin their sound equipment.

 

[JimLeavy59]

Ray Lewis and Tim Tebow will have a Sunday morning show on ESPN.