'Redskins' stripped of trademarks

[ralaw]

Don't know...I also wouldn't be comfortable walking up to a Native American and referring to them as "Chief" to their face...does that mean KC should change their name?

I actually call a lot of people chief. Now you've made me fell like a racist.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

Because human beings have differences of opinions, no shit sherlock.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mR-tbOxlhvE

So, I raised you Native Americans that ARE offended by it.

It's pointless to go "WELL WHAT ABOUT THESE GUYS?". We can probably google all day on finding someone with a difference of opinion. Besides, what some High School names itself in Arizona is a pretty far cry from the professional football team in our nations capitol, which is supposed to be politically correct, because that is where national politics happen. Dan Snyder is embarassing the entire nation, and making the NFL look limp dick in comparison to the NBA who had no problem doing a senile old man over a private cell phone conversation.

Also, you cited Arizona as some kind of shining example of racial hegemony, which is absolutely ludicrous. That's the home of SB 1070. Nuff said.

The high school is located on an Indian reservation. The population of the school is 99.3% Native American. The superintendent of the school district is full-blooded Navajo. Racial hegemony or not, you would think if the term was really racist, that this would be the first area that would have changed it and have the power to do it immediately. They have not. Think about that for a second.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

It would be great to talk about the offensive schemes that Jay Gruden might bring or the offseason acquisitions, but instead, due to Dan Snyder's stubborness on the issue, this is what we get. Why should people stay quiet about something they find racist? to protect the logo on a helmet? No, if something that is obviously racist to a lot of people then bullshit is gonna get called, and it's not going away, unlike the team name, which the NFL is not going to have a choice on.

 

[ram29jackson]

published sept 24, 2013

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Indians don't even care about themselves but yeah its really important as an issue to change a sports teams name because that will help their over all cause.

Granted I'm not to well versed on internet connections in teepee's

 

[ralaw]

This thread reminds me of what we use to refer to "sitting Indian style," but now my son's teachers refer to it as sitting "crisscross applesauce" to be sensitive to our Native American brethren.

 

[ralaw]

The high school is located on an Indian reservation. The population of the school is 99.3% Native American. The superintendent of the school district is full-blooded Navajo. Racial hegemony or not, you would think if the term was really racist, that this would be the first area that would have changed it and have the power to do it immediately. They have not. Think about that for a second.

I get that the Redskins have had their name for a long time, but in language words have meanings and over time for one reason or another (generally cultural shifts) those meanings change. When the Redskins are forced to change their name all of these schools will just follow suit.

 

[KINGOFOOTBALL]

I get that the Redskins have had their name for a long time, but in language words have meanings and over time for one reason or another (generally cultural shifts) those meanings change. When the Redskins are forced to change their name all of these schools will just follow suit.

Thats what they said about the St Johns Redmen. Ill be happy to hear a case about a name change...but not from rich white guys with agendas. Cultural shifts work both ways. Redskins is synonymous with bad football not racism even if it was rooted in it.

 

[ThomasTomasz]

I get that the Redskins have had their name for a long time, but in language words have meanings and over time for one reason or another (generally cultural shifts) those meanings change. When the Redskins are forced to change their name all of these schools will just follow suit.

But that still doesn't explain why a school that has a 99% population of Native American students, located on a reservation and could change their name on a whim, is still named the Redskins.

If the different Native American tribes got together and agreed that the term is offensive, by all means change the team name. However, they are just as divided as everyone else is on the term and Daniel Snyder's legal team will exploit that to win this case yet again.

 

[ram29jackson]

http://www.naturalnews.com/045618_native_americans_state_names_redskins.html

The states now ordered to change their names are:

Alabama
Arkansas
North Dakota / South Dakota
Idaho
Illinois
Indiana
Iowa
Kansas
Kentucky
Massachusetts
Michigan
Minnesota
Mississippi
Missouri
Nebraska
Oklahoma
Tennessee
Wisconsin
Wyoming

All 20 states have until December 31st of this year to change their names to something meaningless and bland in order to be offensive to no one.


Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/045618_native_americans_state_names_redskins.html#ixzz358lubS6q

 

[ram29jackson]

http://www.glennbeck.com/2014/06/19...-attorney-talks-to-glenn-about-latest-ruling/

WATCH: Washington Redskins attorney talks to Glenn about latest ruling

On Wednesday, The United States Patent Office ruled the Washington Redskins federal trademarks for its name must be canceled because the moniker is “disparaging of Native Americans.”

According to TheBlaze, the 2-1 ruling means that the team can continue to use the Redskins name, but it would lose most of its ability to protect the financial interests connected to its use. For example, if others printed the name on apparel or other team material, it would be more difficult for the team to go after those groups.

On radio Wednesday, Glenn reacted to the ruling by questioning whether we are actually living in the United States of America anymore. And on radio this morning, Bob Raskopf, trademark attorney for the Redskins, called in to discuss what comes next.

I don't care about Glenn Beck or whether you like him or not but the interview gives a few insights at least talking to the Lawyer guy

[video]http://www.glennbeck.com/2014/06/19/watch-washington-redskins-trademark-attorney-talks-to-glenn-about-latest-ruling/[/video]

 

[ram29jackson]

gun company logo. Wheres the protest ?

 

[MVPete]

 

[ram29jackson]

 

[SethMode]

I guess that I'm still surprised so many people really give a shit about this. Please don't go crazy Rams, I understand WHY people do, I'm just surprised that they do. It's just the name of a stupid football team. Team names get changed all the time.

 

[ram29jackson]

I guess that I'm still surprised so many people really give a shit about this. Please don't go crazy Rams, I understand WHY people do, I'm just surprised that they do. It's just the name of a stupid football team. Team names get changed all the time.

it shouldn't be because a few idiots in government are padding a resume though. This is media driven bullpucky.
no one is raising hell about the indian casino logo above and the 450 other business's

 

[SethMode]

Yeah but a few idiots in the government do way more to damage personal freedom than a sports team name change.

 

[ram29jackson]

http://httr4life.com/just-who-is-ray-halbritter/

Ray Halbritter is the Nation Representative of the Oneida Indian Nation Inc. since 1975, and Chief Executive Officer (CEO) of its enterprises since 1990. Halbritter is also the man leading the charge to change the Washington Redskins name.

One would think that the individual, or group of individuals who is leading the name-change charge would at least look into how the man they tapped to lead the way has treated his own people. This story reeks of corruption at the top level and also points to something else, if no one reports the truth, how will people learn it? It’s obvious that the national media wants nothing to do with any story Halbritter is involved in. Case and point, Tenney went on to speak about how the national media was invited to Mr Phillips property, she was hoping they were there to do a feature story on Phillips, she was wrong.


“One of the things we did was we setup a meeting with the Washington Post. I taped all the interviews we did, we had a photographer come down and we were meeting with the photographer, it was a rainy day and we showed them the burial grounds and the maps, the whole history. We did that over the phone with the journalist and told her what was really going on and the photographer went and took a lot of pictures.. When she was done, I found this interesting, she flew into Syracuse (before the meeting), which is maybe an half an hour or 45 minutes away and she said can you help me get back. I said, “are you heading to Syracuse”, she said, “well I gotta get to my hotel.” I said “Oh you’re staying in Syracuse near the airport”, she said, “No I’m staying at the “Turning Stone” (Halbritters casino)”. So she was staying at the casino with Halbritters people. So after all this time and effort, when the story came out, they never even mentioned Melvin’s name and all it ended up being was a “puff” piece for Ray Halbritter.

The AP press wire wouldn’t talk on it…we brought in a wonderful journalist afterwards. She came in, did a wonderful story, had great pictures, she put the whole thing on and held up the document I got from the archives stating Halbritter wasn’t Oneida, and we talked about all the issues with the land. The next thing we knew, they killed the story on TV, that night. She called and apologized saying “they just won’t run it because he spends so much in advertising and such.” It’s hard, when you have the money to control media, it makes it very hard to get a message out.”

“I was really discouraged after all the time we put into the articles with the Washington Post and the case and all the facts with court and they didn’t even run the part about him throwing his own cousin off the land.”

Those words said by Tenney should make us all understand a piece of what is going on behind the scenes in the midst of this name-change debate. There is a reason that the voices of Native Americans who oppose a name change are not being heard, and it sits right in the heart of DC itself. The number one reason the story is not getting out is because the major media is in Ray Halbritter’s back pocket. I’ve often wondered why it was that Mike Wise of the Washington Post never has anyone of his “contacts” on a live broadcast speaking of how the name is horrible, or why he has never done any feature articles speaking about the not-so-quiet-anymore 90% majority that supports the Redskins name. It also makes sense why the Post jumps at every chance they get to write something bad about the team or especially, Daniel Snyder.

I think the question that Redskins fans and people in general all over this country should be asking themselves is….just how deep does the rabbit hole go. I know that this publication for one is not afraid of Mr Halbritter’s deep pockets or those who support him. We will continue our search for every bit of truth, and when each piece is found…it will be written.

 

[kingbryk]

bottomline no one cares if they call the team the "The Terd burglars" people will buy the gear, tickets and watch them on TV. Its a sports team it is strictly for entertainment purposes. We watch it to forget the everyday stressors of life, hell i saw CFL was on this weekend id watch that. Horrible football but it was nice to see it.

 

[ram29jackson]

bottomline no one cares if they call the team the "The Terd burglars" people will buy the gear, tickets and watch them on TV. Its a sports team it is strictly for entertainment purposes. We watch it to forget the everyday stressors of life, hell i saw CFL was on this weekend id watch that. Horrible football but it was nice to see it.

you are wrong, the most noise is in fact coming from the pro-Redskins crowd.

 

[kingbryk]

you are wrong, the most noise is in fact coming from the pro-Redskins crowd.

Considering that might be 10k- 35k people thats nothing compared to the millions of native americans that care. it's a losing battle. now MLB is feeling pressure again to get rid of the indians logo and team name. in the big picture its just a sports team not anything more.