Replacement Ref Discussion Thread - Deal Reached, Will Work Thursday

[StealthShot]

Ed "Biceps" Hochuli will fail his physical.

 

[Len B]

http://www.replacementgoogle.com/

:lol:

 

[ram29jackson]

not to prove or disprove anything...Its like when someone said they talked to Larry Fitzgerald and he said replacements get intimated to make certain calls which is different from a veteran ref who see's a Larry F hold a DB during running a route and tells him that he saw it and if he does it again the ref will call it on him.

The regular refs know the sports entertainment theatre that they are in and you dont want to lose the star power for tv. So they know where to give and take. These replacements just saw a mass of bodies running around and didnt know what rules or the spirit of any rules were.


like any other job...no one likes the seasonal help, very rare you get one worth keeping. No veteran after 6 months of getting shot at wants a new recruit next to them in the field of battle cause he has no clue what he's in for.....and a female ref ? LOL forget it

 

[Villain]

I can't wait to complain about the regular refs.

 

[ZoneBlitz]

YES!!!! Cant wait to see the regular refs back in action.

 

[Tailback U]

The microscope is, without a doubt, more magnified on the replacement refs. All we heard up leading up to week 1 and during week 1 was about the replacement refs and how the normal refs weren't out there. Then we have a few bad calls, which happen with the normal refs as well, and that is ALL that is talked about. To say the replacement refs aren't being looked at even closer than normal is absolutely absurd.

Please tell me how they are being looked at "closer" when everyone that watches a game can analyze the officials performance. Since the beginning of time, refs have been closely watched and scrutinized. You are acting like people are all of a sudden watching the refs closer than in the past because we know they aren't the real refs but it's not true. They are being more scrutinized because they are doing a far worse job, not because they are under a microscope that no other official has ever been under.

Like I said, if they had done a good job nobody would be complaining. They were given a chance to do well but they failed miserably.

Sorry but you simply can't sweep infraction errors or giving a team more challenges or messing up down and distance under the rug. They made a bunch of mistakes that the regular officials NEVER made, that is why they are being criticized so heavily - not because of your stupid microscope.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

lol, so i'm listening to Mike & Mike, crack of dawn, the very first media heads to speak since the deal was struck with the real refs, and what is the first thing out of Greenberg's mouth?

"The refs are back folks, but remember, don't have any delusions, there are still going to be bad calls, terrible calls, in every game, because these guys have an impossible job."

Gee, sounds familiar.

The media scrutinized these poor scabs to death, making the situation far worse than it needed to be, because once derp fans catch wind of a media narrative that narrative just snowballs, and now reality is setting in that 'oh yeah, we almost forgot, the real guys suck, too!'.

I think in hindsight, the behavior of some of these players, coaches, and announcers (Tirico & Gruden in particular should be ashamed of themselves for how unprofessional they were BEFORE the contraversial play ever happened, at which point they had a right to blast everybody) exasperated the situation and in some ways made the league look worse than a few bad calls ever would have. Fans are fans, most are goofballs, they overreact by nature, plus they pay a lot of money to watch this shit, so I can give them a pass. But the professionals were hardly that during this debacle.

There is a lot of blame to go around. Goodell & the owners fighting for what amounts to pennies, the referee union who were making outrageous demands as part time employees and forcing the hand of the owners, the players for taking advantage of the substitute teachers and not behaving like professionals, Drew Brees and his quest to be the biggest disingenious douche in history, broadcasters for constantly attacking the officials on mundane judgement calls that all referees consistently blow, the scabs for blowing so many procedural issues like spots & time outs, and some of the coaches for not being leaders and losing their cool.

And most of all, the media, for the constant scrutiny and overanalyzing of every call, feeding the frenzied masses who were looking for a reason from day one to hate the scabs.

Just an absolute disaster all around of overreactions, egos, incompetence, and nonsense.

 

[Maynard]

warner feels vindicated because Mike Greenberg and him see eye to eye. does this mean that greenberg was defending the replacement refs too?

 

[ZoneBlitz]

I see it from both sides...the scab refs did do a much poorer job, but the media did overhype it because thats what they do.

 

[bucky]

The microscope is, without a doubt, more magnified on the replacement refs. All we heard up leading up to week 1 and during week 1 was about the replacement refs and how the normal refs weren't out there. Then we have a few bad calls, which happen with the normal refs as well, and that is ALL that is talked about. To say the replacement refs aren't being looked at even closer than normal is absolutely absurd.

That's absurd.

 

[bucky]

@Warner2BruceTD - you're only defending the replacement refs because you could never, ever defend a union.

Anyone who says these referees are even remotely comparable to the regular officials is: A) A neo-conservative who absolutely must bash the referees' union; B) Helen Keller (blind and deaf); C) Vince McMahon; D) Seattle Seahawks' fans.

Even Seahawks fans are admitting the officiating was horrible. At least the ones on VSN.

 

[bucky]

Sorry but you simply can't sweep infraction errors or giving a team more challenges or messing up down and distance under the rug. They made a bunch of mistakes that the regular officials NEVER made, that is why they are being criticized so heavily - not because of your stupid microscope.

Never made at the same frequency of the replacement refs.

 

[bucky]

lol, so i'm listening to Mike & Mike, crack of dawn, the very first media heads to speak since the deal was struck with the real refs, and what is the first thing out of Greenberg's mouth?

"The refs are back folks, but remember, don't have any delusions, there are still going to be bad calls, terrible calls, in every game, because these guys have an impossible job."

The regular officials make bad calls, terrible calls. But not nearly to the same frequency as these first 3 weeks of this season. That's the difference. The rest of your post means NOTHING because of this. Damn you W2B for making me thank DAVE.

 

[bucky]

warner feels vindicated because Mike Greenberg and him see eye to eye. does this mean that greenberg was defending the replacement refs too?

I didn't get that Mike Greenberg was defending the replacements for that quote. All he said was regular refs also make mistakes. That quote NEVER compared the replacements to the regular officials. Me thinks W2B was reaching (as usual).

 

[Cornelius]

lol, so i'm listening to Mike & Mike, crack of dawn, the very first media heads to speak since the deal was struck with the real refs, and what is the first thing out of Greenberg's mouth?

"The refs are back folks, but remember, don't have any delusions, there are still going to be bad calls, terrible calls, in every game, because these guys have an impossible job."

Gee, sounds familiar.

The media scrutinized these poor scabs to death, making the situation far worse than it needed to be, because once derp fans catch wind of a media narrative that narrative just snowballs, and now reality is setting in that 'oh yeah, we almost forgot, the real guys suck, too!'.

I think in hindsight, the behavior of some of these players, coaches, and announcers (Tirico & Gruden in particular should be ashamed of themselves for how unprofessional they were BEFORE the contraversial play ever happened, at which point they had a right to blast everybody) exasperated the situation and in some ways made the league look worse than a few bad calls ever would have. Fans are fans, most are goofballs, they overreact by nature, plus they pay a lot of money to watch this shit, so I can give them a pass. But the professionals were hardly that during this debacle.

There is a lot of blame to go around. Goodell & the owners fighting for what amounts to pennies, the referee union who were making outrageous demands as part time employees and forcing the hand of the owners, the players for taking advantage of the substitute teachers and not behaving like professionals, Drew Brees and his quest to be the biggest disingenious douche in history, broadcasters for constantly attacking the officials on mundane judgement calls that all referees consistently blow, the scabs for blowing so many procedural issues like spots & time outs, and some of the coaches for not being leaders and losing their cool.

And most of all, the media, for the constant scrutiny and overanalyzing of every call, feeding the frenzied masses who were looking for a reason from day one to hate the scabs.

Just an absolute disaster all around of overreactions, egos, incompetence, and nonsense.

Thanks for being a broken record. It serves you well.

OH THE CONTRAVERSY!!!

 

[Tailback U]

I wish someone kept track of every mistake the replacement refs made.

Here's the thing - the regular officials will make mistakes as well. We all know this. The difference is that at least the real officials know the rules and the punishments for the penalties they are calling. The replacement officials had no fucking clue about what to call or what the punishment for the penalty they just called even was.

In 20 years of watching NFL football, I think I've seen the offiicals "blow" a game about 3 times. These replacement officials managed to do it in 3 weeks. I never saw the real officials mark off 20 yards on a penalty that should have been 10. I never saw the real officials give more timeouts or mess up down and distance. These guys did all of this shit in a span of 3 weeks. They weren't just bad, they were downright fucking awful and deserved all the criticism they got. They were in way over their heads. I don't blame them because they were put in the position but to say they weren't that bad and didn't deserve the scrutinization is laughable.

Don't even get me started about the flow of the game. If you think the replacement officials weren't hurting the shield than you're blind. The replacement officials were so bad that they became the talk of the league from everyone - players, coaches, fans, media. This season was no longer about the marquee players or the rookies or the game of football even, the officiating was beginning to sour the football season and the NFL knew it and that's why they worked quickly to patch this up by bringing the regular officials back.

Apparently everyone in the world is overreacting, though, and W2B is the "only level headed one" on this planet.

 

[RosettaStoned]

Lmao @ the replacements being "a little be more sucky than the normal refs"...

 

[Tailback U]

This is what I was referring to early, not sure if already been posted:

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...erie-football-league-report-article-1.1167796

Replacement refs working in NFL were FIRED from Lingerie Football League, LFL commish says; 'The NFL has been exposed' by shoddy scab refs
Lingerie League says some replacement refs who have been blowing calls during NFL games this season used to work in their league, but were fired for doing a poor job.

A handful of the scab refs who have marred the NFL season with a series of blown calls are washouts from the Lingerie Football League, the underwear league said.
The bra-and-panty league said at least one crew of refs now working NFL games couldn't hack it on their all-girl gridiron and were fired.
Deadspin first reported the league's comments early Tuesday.
"Due to several on-field occurrences of incompetent officiating, we chose to part ways with a crew which apparently is now officiating in the NFL," Lingerie League commissioner Mitch Mortaza said in a statement. "We have a lot of respect for our officials but we felt the officiating was not in line with our expectations.
PHOTOS: 2012 LINGERIE BOWL
"We have not made public comment to date because we felt it was not our place to do so. However in light of tonight's event, we felt it was only fair that NFL fans knew the truth as to who are officiating these games," Mortaza said, referring to Monday night's debacle in Seattle.


Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/f...league-report-article-1.1167796#ixzz27hIgFOqJ

Link includes some pretty sweet pics of LFL players.

 

[ram29jackson]

blah blah blah a few bad calls were magnified?

and I suppose the Titanic just had a small leak?

 

[ZoneBlitz]

My new favorite sport, and better officiated than the NFL has been this season: