Replacement Ref Discussion Thread - Deal Reached, Will Work Thursday

[Warner2BruceTD]

Fight is subjective, FUCKFACE. You can call it whatever you want. My point was that it was something that was out of hand and warranted ejections. You keep commenting on shit you haven't seen and think you have a legit argument as you usually do. I'm almost astonished at the balls and stupidity you have at thinking you can talk about it at all. The funny thing is that it makes everything else you'll ever say completely irrelevant and obvious cause it's just more bullshit that you haven't seen or know little about. Again though, typical you. :thumbsup:

I never commented on the 'fight' I didn't see. I think you are slightly retarded.

Good point.

Have their been fights which resulted in no ejections? Was there a fight last night?

This was my post that you groaned and then replied to. I asked if there was a fight Monday night, because I didn't watch that game. You claimed that i'm obviously not watching a lot of games for some reason (with no basis). Not true, but fine, i'll play along, so I asked you to cite examples of other fights that I supposedly didn't see because i'm not watching any games. You flew off the handle like usual and cursed a lot and claimed I can't comment on the topic at hand and kept bringing up the ONE example of a 'fight'. Do you know why you keep repeating the same example?

BECAUSE THERE ARE NO OTHER EXAMPLES, YOU DIP SHIT.

So please, explain to me how ONE FUCKING 'FIGHT' in two weeks worth of football is any sort of indication that the officials are allowing the players to be out of control? Do you think this is a higher rate of fights than we see with the real officials?

And I ask again, what exactly is your point? That there was some sort of skirmish Monday? Cool story bro. Who cares?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Can't we at least all agree that the amount that people hate the scabs is relative, considering the amount people hate the "real" refs? I am so confused by all of this replacement stuff, outside of the ESPN hype/hate machine.

Agreed.

It's completely blown out of proportion. These refs are not good, but neither are the real ones. And they haven't been nearly as bad as people think they've been.

 

[Hasselbeck]

I love the scab refs. Keep them on board. In two weeks they have..

- Gave the Seahawks 4 timeouts (unfortunately they didn't give Braylon Edwards hands that can catch an easy touchdown)
- Let Golden Tate nearly take Sean Lee's head off THEN flag a Cowboy defender for barely touching Russell Wilson as he ran out of bounds.

Scab refs forever!

 

[CrimsonGhost56]

 

[Glenbino]

Ed Hochuli won games for my team. I want him back in the NFL.

 

[Maynard]

give it a week...you will be upset too. well, you like the gmen and NY tends to have everything go in their favor....so give it a few weeks

 

[Cornelius]

I never commented on the 'fight' I didn't see. I think you are slightly retarded.



This was my post that you groaned and then replied to. I asked if there was a fight Monday night, because I didn't watch that game. You claimed that i'm obviously not watching a lot of games for some reason (with no basis). Not true, but fine, i'll play along, so I asked you to cite examples of other fights that I supposedly didn't see because i'm not watching any games. You flew off the handle like usual and cursed a lot and claimed I can't comment on the topic at hand and kept bringing up the ONE example of a 'fight'. Do you know why you keep repeating the same example?

I explained this already, but hey, I guess you can't read which means I'm wasting my time typing, but anyhow.........I groaned it because you were asking about what happened last night. I claimed you hadn't been watching football, thus didn't know of the "fight" or of other officiating disasters. I don't remember claiming there were 5 billion fights that you missed. You read into something that wasn't there. Which happens all the time with you, why am I surprised? I now know that you didn't watch MNF and that according to ZB's quote, you don't watch football anymore which totally makes sense and you are just making,"everybody is overreacting to the refs" comments for no apparent reason.

BECAUSE THERE ARE NO OTHER EXAMPLES, YOU DIP SHIT.

So please, explain to me how ONE FUCKING 'FIGHT' in two weeks worth of football is any sort of indication that the officials are allowing the players to be out of control? Do you think this is a higher rate of fights than we see with the real officials?

And I ask again, what exactly is your point? That there was some sort of skirmish Monday? Cool story bro. Who cares?

I commented on your fight comment, but it was about more than that (post 79: See EDIT). You don't watch games. Good for you. I care that you blab about shit you don't watch and act like it's gospel. It's fucking annoying and you do it a lot.

Here, cause I know you are having a hard time grasping this:

YOU: Fight, more fights? examples?

Me: That was one incident of ref incompetence and there are many more that I'm sure you didn't watch

YOU: What fight, what other fights?

ME: argh, insult insult, you need to comprehend what you are reading, repeat incident, you don't watch

YOU: fight? fight? examples?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I explained this already, but hey, I guess you can't read which means I'm wasting my time typing, but anyhow.........I groaned it because you were asking about what happened last night. I claimed you hadn't been watching football, thus didn't know of the "fight" or of other officiating disasters.

I'm going to stop you right there.

I didn't watch the MNF game, which is why I asked about it. Not sure how that equates to not watching any other games, but honestly I don't care, i'm done with this because you will keep coming back with "you dont watch games" based on the idea that I don't watch MNF. So we will go in circles, and you seemingly have no point other than there was some pushing & shoving on Monday. I'm not even sure what that has to do with the topic. Fights happen with the real officials, too. Probably more than at a one per every two week rate, at that.

 

[Cornelius]

I'm going to stop you right there.

I didn't watch the MNF game, which is why I asked about it. Not sure how that equates to not watching any other games, but honestly I don't care, i'm done with this because you will keep coming back with "you dont watch games" based on the idea that I don't watch MNF. So we will go in circles, and you seemingly have no point other than there was some pushing & shoving on Monday. I'm not even sure what that has to do with the topic. Fights happen with the real officials, too. Probably more than at a one per every two week rate, at that.

Cool. Fights. Circles? You don't say!

Obviously you do care. You've responded a lot because you think you know what happened on MNF because of highlights. Probably not the only highlight you base your opinions on. I've heard of selective listening, but selective reading is a new one.

 

[Tailback U]

Agreed.

It's completely blown out of proportion. These refs are not good, but neither are the real ones. And they haven't been nearly as bad as people think they've been.

I'd like to agree with you but you are flat out wrong.

Some people may be blowing it out of proportion, but these refs deserve the criticism they are getting and they should be under a microscope. Teams are taking matters into their own hands because the officials aren't able to control the game.

Not only that, but there have been a lot of bad calls. Most of all, though, the overall flow of the game has completely slowed. The referees are taking longer to figure out what penalty was called, should have been called, and the consequences of said penalty. Sometimes, they've just decided to pick up the flag even though it shouldn't have been. Other times they've been intimidating into making a call when they weren't going to. Their lack of experience is showing. And it's only been two weeks.

We're only 2 weeks in so the mistakes they've made can be swept under the rug by some. But if this is to continue over the course of an entire season then they will make a lot more bad calls and ultimately cost a team a playoff position.

Maybe they aren't actually doing worse than the regular officials (which I disagree with), the fact is that the NFL should have the highest standard of officiating and they should be held accountable for that. That's the bottom line.

Think of it like this. If an employee at little caesar's fucks up a pizza after working there for 5 years nobody is going to get mad at you. Now if you go hire some guy who has only cooked lunchable pizzas at home off the street and put him in your store and he fucks up a pizza then you should be blamed. Maybe the lunchable pizza guy makes the same mistake that the experienced pizza guy makes, it doesn't matter, as an employer it should be your responsibility to make sure the person in power is the most qualified person for the job.

Don't actually kid yourself into thinking that you can take a high school or college official and just throw him into an NFL game and he's going to do as well as someone who has been officiating NFL games for decades. That is foolish to think.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

I'd like to agree with you but you are flat out wrong.

Some people may be blowing it out of proportion, but these refs deserve the criticism they are facing. Teams are taking matters into their own hands because the officials aren't able to control the game.

Not only that, but there have been a lot of bad calls. Most of all, though, the overall flow of the game has completely changed. The referees take longer to figure out what penalty was called, should have been called, and the consequences of said penalty. Sometimes, they've just decided to pick up the flag even though it shouldn't have been. Their lack of experience is showing.

We're only 2 weeks in so the mistakes they've made can be swept under the rug by some. But if this is to continue over the course of an entire season then they will make a lot more bad calls and ultimately cost a team a playoff position.

Maybe they aren't actually doing worse than the regular officials (which I disagree with), the fact is that the NFL should have the highest standard of officiating and they should be held accountable for that. That's the bottom line.

Think of it like this; if an employee at little caesar's fucks up a pizza after working there for 5 years nobody is going to get mad at you. Now if you go hire some guy who has only cooked lunchable pizzas at home off the street and put him in your store and he fucks up a pizza then you should be blamed. Maybe the lunchable pizza guy makes the same mistake that the experienced pizza guy makes, it doesn't matter, as an employer it should be your responsibility to make sure the person in power is the most qualified person for the job.

Serious question, have you read the entire thread?

 

[NAHSTE]

By the way guys, since I didn't get to see the Eagles game and this was the original topic, I gotta know. Did McCoy come through for the guy's fantasy team, or what?

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

Tailback-check that. did you read the entire thread up until the point that Cornelius hijacked it and turned it to shit?

I largely agree with you. You feel they've been a bit worse than I do, but we agree in principle.

fwiw, the extra TO mistake in the Seattle/Arizona game has happened 3 or 4 times in the last couple of years according to Mike Pereira.

You guys have short memories. The real refs screw up basic shit all of the time. I'm not arguing that these guys are just as good, because they're not, i'm just arguing that it isn't that big of a deal.

I have issues with all officials.

I won't pretend the real refs do a good job while the rest of you pick apart every questionable call made by the scabs.

Week 1, the scabs were fine. You had to be really reaching to take issue.

Week 2 saw some embarrassing stuff. I have a bigger problem with bad spots and things of that nature, than screwing up complicated non routine issues, because the real refs do that all of the time, too.

You will all be bitching about the real refs within two weeks of their return.

I still contend that if nobody had been told, none of you m'fers would even realize that these guys are scabs.

Who is arguing otherwise? Of course everybody would prefer the real officials.

OK.

Where did I say I didn't want the regular officials back?

I'm not losing sleep over the replacements and think the issues are overblown. That's all.

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

By the way guys, since I didn't get to see the Eagles game and this was the original topic, I gotta know. Did McCoy come through for the guy's fantasy team, or what?

YOU DONT WATCH THE FUCKING GAMES HOW DARE YOU COMMENT RABBLE RABBLE CURSE WORD FUCKFACE ASSHOLE

 

[Cornelius]

Tailback-check that. did you read the entire thread up until the point that Cornelius hijacked it and turned it to shit?

I largely agree with you. You feel they've been a bit worse than I do, but we agree in principle.

LOL@me hijacking it cause you can't read. More self righteous bullshit from you. :lefty:

So he disagrees with your post and suddenly you agree in principle? Holy fuckin balls...........

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

my fan club is out in full force tonight

 

[Cornelius]

my fan club is out in full force tonight

Cause your stupidity is on high in this thread. Easy way to stop that.

 

[MrBill]

Let's try to reel in the personal attacks people. This is the NFL Forum, not the Locker Room.

 

[Maynard]

warners vast knowledge of the refs from this past weekend comes from the Rams/Skins game and the peter king blog

we know you watched the Rams/Skins and lets assume you watched the SNF game....what 1 oclock game did you watch on sunday? and the Reds game doesnt count

 

[Warner2BruceTD]

warners vast knowledge of the refs from this past weekend comes from the Rams/Skins game and the peter king blog

we know you watched the Rams/Skins and lets assume you watched the SNF game....what 1 oclock game did you watch on sunday? and the Reds game doesnt count

Didn't watch SNF this week, Boardwalk Empire is on now, so that's the end of that.

Please don't question what games I watch, you don't even have cable, let alone Sunday Ticket. You were watching the Browns on your rabbit ears while I was watching everything except the Browns, who DirecTV didn't even bother to put on the Game Mix because nobody gives a shit.